10-27-2018, 12:07 AM
(10-26-2018, 07:32 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: She has a history of making racial statements that cause controversy.
I used to watch her once in a blue moon on FOX. She was very serious and passionate in her insistence that Santa Claus is white!!! She made the same impassioned claim when it comes to Jesus.
Anyway, NBC gave her over $60 million to join their network after she made a splash taking on Trump in 2016. That's way more than the other morning show hosts make. And, she's reportedly created a very tense working environment and has not delivered the ratings they'd hoped for.
I think the black face comment was probably just an excuse or final straw to justify booting her.
As far as 1st amendment rights......they don't apply on the job in private business. The employer determines what's allowable or not. She might win a settlement if there's nothing specific in her contract that applies to her statement and NBC just wants her out though.
An insistence that Santa was white is racist? Only to Snowflakes who marinate in PC political identity Progressive Social Justice bullshit. That is why YOU think insisting on Santa being white is racist.
Now IS Santa or Jesus white. Yes and no. Every traditional depiction of both Santa and Jesus IS white. Secondly IF we assume both of them are likely mythological or possible composite characters drawn from a few people in history then they are representation and ideas not people to which have to have a skin tone or race. So she would in either of these instances be quite right on insisting that Santa and Jesus are the race and skin tone depicted on every traditional depiction of them through the ages AND it would be fucking ridiculous to call her racist for looking to the depictions as accurate representations and only an ideologue Snowflake or dishonest idiot would say so.
That very big disclaimer out the way. Is it worth arguing that the representations are not correct and that the Jesus and Santa were actually of a different race or skin colour IF they existed at all?
Sure you CAN make that case. Santa that we see as the jolly fat man in the red cap and red suit is not an accurate depiction of Santa and was an image that was created by Coca Cola. So who was or could have been Santa. Well Santa was an infusion of religious and Pagan concepts as many of the Saints and traditions of Christianity are (The Easter Bunny for example Bunnies and Eggs and people getting nailed to the cross = Easter). St Nicholas (a Saint who is possibly as much myth as fact - much like Jesus) and incorporates predated Pagan Gods of Winter a bit of Elf thrown in. BUT if we ONLY consider the St Nicholas portion and not the elvish and Pagan God portion that predates the 300AD person and (and strip away the supernatural miracle components) then you are left with a Turkish man with the skin hue of someone like Cenk from the Young Turks. BUT in order to do that you would need to COMPLETELY override any Elf like depictions that may change that look and certainly override any Pagan Gods of Winter who would have certainly been depicted as light skinned as those myths were NOT from Turkey.
As for Jesus, he may have been a person or may not have been. Personally I think he was an amalgam of many contemporary and mythical entities all rolled into one.
I think Attis of Phrygia, Zoroaster, Simon Magnus, and Apollonius of Tyana all fed the concept to which the Son of God was born. A saviour and powerful idea that was to temper the fighting instincts of a warrior people who were finally conquered by a foreign army and to keep their people together and survive their occupation
I do not know of course. Maybe Jesus was a flesh and blood person and not a composite. Maybe his tales were embellished and maybe they were not at all and he was a faith healer, magician, carpenter, preacher and son of God.
None of you know and like Santa, he is a concept and a powerful one. The depictions of him have always been that he is a white man. If he was an actual person, and a son of Joseph and Mary, and born of flesh and blood, then I would say he was probably the same hue as other Middle Eastern men of that time. If he was a son of God and Mary and unlike men in the supernatural things he could do? Well let's say I have an easier time believing he was born white than he could turn water into wine or walk across water.