Sadness for Natasha Richardson and family

[sally]

People suffer and die every day, that's life. People who are completely void of any empathy are usually people I don't trust, however. I've mentioned that I don't like the human race in general, but I still have the ability to put myself in those shoes and feel some sense of compassion.

[Sinister]

People who are completely void of any empathy are usually people I don't trust,

I think that's about the smartest thing you've ever said. Although I would be more specific and say there is no one of any characteristic that I trust, save one.

[Liquid]

WHY should I, or you, feel bad for her. If you feel bad for her then you would have to feel bad for the other million or so people who died today. obviously that is not happening. the ONLY reason we even know that anything happened to her is that she is famous. that's it.

and don't call me insensitive you FAKE assholes.

like i said - who cares.

[Liquid]

I bet you at least feel a little bad for her family.

Meh. Honestly? Not really. I told you I'm insensitive; but I'm not an ignorant retard as Liquid has shown so profoundly and succinctly with his comment.

OH SHUT THE FUCK UP. you are such a hypocrite. tell me why you care about this one person dying. do you care about the millions in 3^rd world countries dying? DON'T LIE because that is what all you fucks are - liars.

if people would stop trying to look good and worrying about if others think they are caring good people, maybe we could be HONEST and not fake. fake fake fake.

[LuMPyPussy]

I'm sad that she's dead because she was a wonderful actress,she seemed to love her life, husband and children and it was just such a stupid, wasteful, freak accident that probably wouldn't happen once out of a million. I admired her and I feel pity for her family that she was taken from them so young.

Fuck you if you can't understand that.

[sally]

I bet you at least feel a little bad for her family.

Meh. Honestly? Not really. I told you I'm insensitive; but I'm not an ignorant retard as Liquid has shown so profoundly and succinctly with his comment.

OH SHUT THE FUCK UP. you are such a hypocrite. tell me why you care about this one person dying. do you care about the millions in 3^rd world countries dying? DON'T LIE because that is what all you fucks are - liars.

if people would stop trying to look good and worrying about if others think they are caring good people, maybe we could be HONEST and not fake. fake fake fake.

I have empathy for everyone, not just the ones who make headline news. I didn't feel any worse for Kaley Anthony than the rest of the children who are tortured in this world. The news just exploited herto giveall the jack asses meaning in their mundane lives. It's sickening, I agree. It doesn't change the fact that I do feel compassion for any tragic story, and Icant bring myself to mock it... unlike you, you fucking insensitive prick.

[Fry Guy]

I wish I could be a beneficiary in her will. :(

[Duchess]

Could he be anymore insensitive?

Why would you make a comment like this in a mock forum ?...Have you not learned that nothing is sacred in here ?...Get it through your head, Ramsey..no one cares about feelings in here..there is no decorum to be found...uncouth & insulting is the name of the game...If you are looking for and expecting to find sensitivity you are in the wrong forum...Jesus Christ, a comment regarding someones insensitivity in a mock forum, what the hell were you thinking ?

[LuMPyPussy]

While I tend to agree with you, I had kind of hoped we were a little more mature than pissing on a recent death.

Apparently not.

[Duchess]

WhileI do agree with you, I try to never show my feelings in here...On more than a couple occasions I have stumbled in that I area & I actually work to not express my heartfelt thoughts..Idon't likegettin' pissed on.

[LuMPyPussy]

I think what bothers me so much about this, besides the fact that I admired her and her family so much, is the abrupt and horrifying way a seemingly minor head injury can (quickly) result in death. She hit her head one day and she's dead the next.

It really hammers the point home about the fragility of life.

[Liquid]

While I tend to agree with you, I had kind of hoped we were a little more mature than pissing on a recent death.

Apparently not.

listen Lump, I will respond with no caps, or swears, and be honest about my point. This is not about "Natasha Richardsons" specific death. It is in general.
Every single day some one in the news dies and I hear people say "oh that is so sad" or "I feel terrible".
Well to me that is an incredibly "fake" response that people make to a public situation. Because if you actually felt bad every time someone died you would feel bad every single second of your day and entire life. That is silly.
I feel bad if people I know intimately die. I feel bad if someone in my family dies. I know these people. I have a relationship with them. I have actual feeling for them. I don't know Natasha Richardon. If she was a good actor that is wonderful, but it does not make me feel more for her. I am sure a great doctor somewhere just died as I was typing this post, I don't feel sad for them. And realistically neither does anyone else, except those immediately related or attached to them.

Those people who say the "oh that is so sad" or "I feel terrible" comments are not going to grieve and takes days or months or years to get over this death. They just are not. And going back to what I said earlier, if they did, and they had a profound emotional response to every single death in the world, they would be in the insane bin for depression. On a lesser level people who do have strong feelings like these dedicate their entire lives to working for the peace corp or other humanitarian organizations. But the reality is that this is a tiny tiny tiny fraction of a fraction of the population.

Also you said you "admired her family". Obviously that is not true. You did not go see her and watch her and learn about her and her family before it became a news story. No one did. She was just "another person" on the planet until her accident became news only because she is a public figure. remember, if she had just been some mom from Montana it would have never been a news story.

It is no secret that we are a society of fake people, who care and react only when there is public tragedy or situations. So you can call me an insensitive prick, but I am just being honest plain and simple. I do not feel sadness for her dying. I just don't. We all have too many other real things in our lives to worry about, and actual people we know and care about who are actually in our lives to worry about.

This story will be completely forgotten, by everyone in the world (with the exception of those immediately close to her) in a few days. It is only news because she was a public figure.

[LuMPyPussy]

Do you have any idea who her family is? Your argument is asinine.

Yeah, it probably strikes you as silly when a public figure is mourned when there's so much death and suffering everywhere else in the world, but the best way I can explain it is that since these are public figures, they feel like people we know and like. Not every public figure would be mourned by me however... I couldn't care less if some idiot like Paris Hilton smashed her car into a freeway overpass. But Miranda Richardson represented, to me, a warm and kind person that loved her family and was loved in return. Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but her death and her family's loss hurts something inside of me.

Princess Di? Didn't bother me. John Kennedy Jr? I was pretty upset at his death as well. If you think those are 'fake' reactions, I certainly can't do anything to change your mind.

[Lady Cop]

this woman died nearly same way. i feel badly for her as well. ski patrol are gutsy people who save lives. it's probably a good thing we can't wrap our heads around every death that ever happens, we'd go mad. so we sympathize where we can relate.

the only celebrity i ever truly mourned was Luciano Pavarotti. i still miss him.

Member of Jackson Hole Ski Patrol Dies After Sustaining Injuries From Fall
Wednesday, March 18, 2009

JACKSON, Wyo.⿿ Jackson Hole Mountain Resort says a member of the ski patrol has died from injuries she suffered in a skiing accident while on the job.[/b]

Kathryn Hess fell Friday while negotiating a descent into Rock Springs Canyon, south of the resort boundary. Resort spokeswoman Lisa Watson says Hess died Tuesday. Hess was 42 years old.

Watson says Hess was on a backcountry patrol route when the accident occurred. She suffered head and other injuries in the fall.

Hess served eight years on the ski patrol.

She worked as a guide for Jackson Hole Mountain Guides and guided throughout the Rockies and on Denali in Alaska. She specialized in Utah's red-rock country, and was a former instructor for the National Outdoor Leadership School.

[Liquid]

I know you are not her family. You are proving my point.
what you are describing is an emotional shock reaction to a very public situation. Sure the Princess Di and John Kennedy deaths were sensational and people watched and mourned and their grief became part of the story. Your reaction was normal and it was consistent with the "masses of sheep" who for some unknown reason cried for a woman (ex-princess di) that they did not know at all.

I will be honest that the story was interesting to me at the time, like many other stories. But was I literally upset and broken down by her death, no. I did not know the woman at all. I am being honest. I found the story interesting and sensational because it was on every channel all day long for weeks, but that is it.

We are talking about 2 different things. Actual grief over a family member or loved one versus a reaction due to a news story that has been sensationalized into an almost entertainment situation to get an emotional response from the viewer (you, me, and everyone else watching). It is "the drama" unfolding infront of our eyes and many many many stories have been written about this and the mass reactions to similar situations.

[Cynical Ninja]

If Muhammed Ali died tomorrow I would weep like a pussy.

[Liquid]

If Muhammed Ali died tomorrow I would weep like a pussy.

op, while I would understand your grief because his public personality has been a part of your life for years and his actions and experiences touched you emotionally, do you agree with what I have been saying above.

Paul Newman died a few months ago. People all over the world were sad because a man who did movies they loved and made salad dressing they ate, was gone. He made movies that millions of people saw. He had been around for almost 8 decades and a lot of people knew who he was. That is it. Was I sad, not really. I appreciated his body of work and what he had accomplished. I was sad that there would not be any more entertaining movies from him, but ultimately was I sad because he was dead, no.

I just think people go way to far with this stuff and it is only because these people or situations are "news worthy". Like I posted originally every single second of every single day, thousands of people are dying. Right now thousands are dying everywhere. Why are you not publicly upset about them. Because it is not a news story or in the papers.

[Fry Guy]

While I tend to agree with you, I had kind of hoped we were a little more mature than pissing on a recent death.

Apparently not.

Ohhhh....you guys were mature. Missed that apparently. Between the turtles raping shoes, smurfs on boobs and the general pissy, petty bitching and whining it got past me. Mature, got it now. Easy mistake to make.

How much do you reckon she was worth at the time of her horrific death

[QueenBee]

I am leaning towards siding with Liquid here. When a celebrety dies, I may say "Oh, that is too bad, she was a good actress/singer..whatever". It is too bad they will no longer contribute to their craft, but beyond that...

A case in point. On December 7, 1980 my mom died after battling cancer for 5 years. On December 8, 1980, a really good singer and songwriter was shot and killed. Guess who I was crying for?

It as sad when Christopher Reeve had his accident, and when his wife died just a couple years after him. But one can acknowledge a sad set of circumstances for a family without actually "grieving" as if a close personal friend had died.

What concerns me more today is the story of a local police officer, age 23, who was shot in the head by some stupid kid. He lived, and is recovering..and will be rehabing for more than a year. We are all rooting for him, and for his recovery. But beyond that..I have never met him, never will..but I can still hope for a good recovery.

[Liquid]

I am leaning towards siding with Liquid here. When a celebrety dies, I may say "Oh, that is too bad, she was a good actress/singer..whatever". It is too bad they will no longer contribute to their craft, but beyond that...

A case in point. On December 7, 1980 my mom died after battling cancer for 5 years. On December 8, 1980, a really good singer and songwriter was shot and killed. Guess who I was crying for?

It as sad when Christopher Reeve had his accident, and when his wife died just a couple years after him. But one can acknowledge a sad set of circumstances for a family without actually "grieving" as if a close personal friend had died.

What concerns me more today is the story of a local police officer, age 23, who was shot in the head by some stupid kid. He lived, and is recovering..and will be rehabing for more than a year. We are all rooting for him, and for his recovery. But beyond that..I have never met him, never will..but I can still hope for a good recovery.

well said Queen.