THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY

[Fry Guy]

Bet you are lying with this statement.

Duchess!! Shame on you lying just to virtue signal. Think of the children!

Well, I've caught up on this thread's posts.

Trump remains consistently inconsistent.  And, you remain a consistently pompous dipshit.  

Same as it ever was.

No, we really are all liars and Trump has done so many good things for this country. That is what happened when you left!

http://www.magapill.com/

Absolutely he has and only someone caught in the vacuum of one sided biased fake news propaganda would say otherwise

You often sound one sided yourself.
And that website, wow!
I mean who does that?

Probably someone who is equally sick of the narrative "Trump has not done anything since he became President" and someone who is equally as sick of NO recognition WHEN he has achievements. He probably wants an access point to the achievements. It cannot be that Trump has done nothing since he is in office or that everything he does is bad, we are just fed that by a media not interested in investing their time promoting good things.

[Rootilda]

[Duchess]

I like the part where the president is signing bibles 

I thought it was a joke, a photochop, when I first saw this yesterday. There has been some truly unbelievable shit going down and while this may not take the cake, it sure as hell ranks up there. A bolt of lightning should have come from the sky and taken that cocksucka the hell out. Signing bibles for fuckssake! My God.

[Fry Guy]

I like the part where the president is signing bibles 

I thought it was a joke, a photochop, when I first saw this yesterday. There has been some truly unbelievable shit going down and while this may not take the cake, it sure as hell ranks up there. A bolt of lightning should have come from the sky and taken that cocksucka the hell out. Signing bibles for fuckssake! My God.

Get over it Duchess, Jesus!

[sally]

At least he's not signing babies.

[Duchess]

At least he's not signing babies.

Heh. You're right.

...women's chests are fine though.

[BigMark]

Dat Aussie?

[Maggot]

Where is the proof that Trump is racist?

[Fry Guy]

There isn't any.

There is mean things he has said that were to "PoC" and not withstanding the fact that he says similar things to people that are white, they call him racist. There are policies that impact on illegal immigrants coming across the border in trying to protect America's citizens of all races. Likewise there is the "Muslim ban" which does not target Muslims or even the most Muslim or Arab specific nations in the world but rather the ones designated by Obama as the ones that were the most unstable and difficult to check.

They have a whole lot of insinuation and no proof.

[Rootilda]

Trump Management Corporation
In 1973, Richard Nixon’s Department of Justice sued the Trump family business for refusing to rent or negotiate rentals “because of race and color”.

It also charged that the company had required prohibitively stringent rental terms and conditions to black applicants and had lied about unit availability to keep black residents out. A then 26-year-old Donald Trump was the president of the company at the time.
Three Trump doormen also told the DoJ they had been instructed to deflect African Americans who came to Trump buildings to apply for apartments. The suit was later settled “without an admission of guilt”, as Trump is keen on reminding.

Trump casinos
Trump branched out from residential real estate into the casino business in the 1980s. Employees revealed a pattern of racism. In a tell-all book, former president of the Trump Plaza Casino John O’Donnell said Trump once told him: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.”
Another former Trump employee told the New Yorker that black staff were hidden from Trump when he visited the casino with his wife. “When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor,” said Kip Brown.


Donald Trump and the Central Park Five: the racially charged rise of a demagogue

The Central Park Five
In 1989 Trump paid a reported $85,000 to take out advertising space in four of the city’s newspapers with the headline: “Bring Back The Death Penalty. Bring Back Our Police!”

The inspiration was the arrest of five teens in the rape and assault of a jogger in Central Park. The teens were exonerated when the attacker confessed in 2002.

“I think he knew what he was doing by taking a side, and I think he knew he was aligning himself with law and order, especially white law and order,” said Michael D’Antonio, the author of Never Enough, a 2016 Trump biography.

The birth certificate
Donald Trump spent much of 2011 as the most public face and voice of the “birtherism” conspiracy theory by claiming, without a shred of evidence, that Barack Obama might have been born in Kenya rather than Hawaii. Trump said he was “very proud” of himself after Obama eventually released his longform birth certificate to quell the controversy.
By some accounts, Trump still maintains this belief about Obama despite having also, at various other times, accepted the document as authentic and definitive.

Muslim ban and Mexican ‘rapists’
It wasn’t until his 2016 presidential campaign that Trump’s offhand casual racism became a subject of intense national scrutiny. During his campaign he called for a ban on Muslims entering the United States; for the expulsion of all undocumented migrants; and branded Mexicans immigrants as “rapists”. Each subsequent racist remark infuriated large groups of Americans while deeply gratifying the Trump base. Trump also made a habit of sharing racist and often blatantly false content on Twitter: for example, in November 2015, an image of false crime statistics created by a white supremacist page.

Huts and Aids
Trump has routinely seized on terror incidents involving Muslims in defense of his proposed and then partially enacted travel ban, while remaining silent about similar acts committed by white supremacists. He declared there were some “very fine people on both side”, of a clash between white supremacists and counter-demonstrators in Charlottesville.
Even his most recent reported “shithole” remarks are consistent with comments Trump is said to have made about non-white immigrant groups.

Last month, Trump is said to have remarked that Haitians “have Aids” and that Nigerian immigrants wouldn’t “go back to their huts” after being allowed into the US.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018...r-and-life

[sally]

He's not racist, he's a business man that managed to get the highest rank and it pisses you off because he's not a politician and he doesn't behave the way you'd like so you grasp for straws. I don't vote, I have no investment in this shit. But I know what I see. That's it. All she wrote. Now go suck Nancy Pelosi's ass, the real devil. Stupid fucks.

[sally]

I told you fucking idiots a long time ago that he was going to make it because he is who he is and doesn't pretend to be anything else. The people like that. Just because you don't like his personality doesn't matter, in fact you look ignorant for getting so upset over it.

[Fry Guy]

Trump Management Corporation
In 1973, Richard Nixon’s Department of Justice sued the Trump family business for refusing to rent or negotiate rentals “because of race and color”.

It also charged that the company had required prohibitively stringent rental terms and conditions to black applicants and had lied about unit availability to keep black residents out. A then 26-year-old Donald Trump was the president of the company at the time.
Three Trump doormen also told the DoJ they had been instructed to deflect African Americans who came to Trump buildings to apply for apartments. The suit was later settled “without an admission of guilt”, as Trump is keen on reminding.

Trump casinos
Trump branched out from residential real estate into the casino business in the 1980s. Employees revealed a pattern of racism. In a tell-all book, former president of the Trump Plaza Casino John O’Donnell said Trump once told him: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.”
Another former Trump employee told the New Yorker that black staff were hidden from Trump when he visited the casino with his wife. “When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor,” said Kip Brown.


Donald Trump and the Central Park Five: the racially charged rise of a demagogue

The Central Park Five
In 1989 Trump paid a reported $85,000 to take out advertising space in four of the city’s newspapers with the headline: “Bring Back The Death Penalty. Bring Back Our Police!”

The inspiration was the arrest of five teens in the rape and assault of a jogger in Central Park. The teens were exonerated when the attacker confessed in 2002.

“I think he knew what he was doing by taking a side, and I think he knew he was aligning himself with law and order, especially white law and order,” said Michael D’Antonio, the author of Never Enough, a 2016 Trump biography.

The birth certificate
Donald Trump spent much of 2011 as the most public face and voice of the “birtherism” conspiracy theory by claiming, without a shred of evidence, that Barack Obama might have been born in Kenya rather than Hawaii. Trump said he was “very proud” of himself after Obama eventually released his longform birth certificate to quell the controversy.
By some accounts, Trump still maintains this belief about Obama despite having also, at various other times, accepted the document as authentic and definitive.

Muslim ban and Mexican ‘rapists’
It wasn’t until his 2016 presidential campaign that Trump’s offhand casual racism became a subject of intense national scrutiny. During his campaign he called for a ban on Muslims entering the United States; for the expulsion of all undocumented migrants; and branded Mexicans immigrants as “rapists”. Each subsequent racist remark infuriated large groups of Americans while deeply gratifying the Trump base. Trump also made a habit of sharing racist and often blatantly false content on Twitter: for example, in November 2015, an image of false crime statistics created by a white supremacist page.

Huts and Aids
Trump has routinely seized on terror incidents involving Muslims in defense of his proposed and then partially enacted travel ban, while remaining silent about similar acts committed by white supremacists. He declared there were some “very fine people on both side”, of a clash between white supremacists and counter-demonstrators in Charlottesville.
Even his most recent reported “shithole” remarks are consistent with comments Trump is said to have made about non-white immigrant groups.

Last month, Trump is said to have remarked that Haitians “have Aids” and that Nigerian immigrants wouldn’t “go back to their huts” after being allowed into the US.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018...r-and-life

Only the most ideologically blind at this point in things have not realised that there is a concerted effort to paint Trump as a monster. There have been many sources of people who come out of the woodwork to smear Trump and hearsay is NOT evidence.

An example of this is Dick Durbin

https://joeforamerica.com/2018/01/flashb...ral-times/

So Dick Durbin lied, as he has lied previously, and for what seems to be in every case, making political strawmen for his opponents to defend.

Being that it is agreed upon by people on BOTH sides of the aisle that Trump did not make the remark and the only Senator backing Durbin's statement was Durbin himself, why are you for a moment pretend Trump said this? Either you are ignorantly promoting things you have no clue on OR you know better but this fits an ideological narrative just like the fake news around Smollet fit an ideological narrative and just like the Covington kids fake news outrage was promoted by the Liberal mainstream as truth.

People saying what they recall Trump as having said is not evidence that they DID say this.

So is the word of Jack O'Donnell any more than a high powered disgruntled employee saying bad things? Are you able to show that it is not or are you taking him at his word? I will tell you an anecdote. A number of years ago an organisation I worked with, let me go by not renewing the contract. I had had run-ins with the boss. I made good money for them and was paid a very good wage. But when they were told to cut numbers they essentially waited till 3 yearly contracts were up and fired everyone they had run-ins with. It was backed up by two further layers. These people were pretty cutthroat and I had no recourse. From great income to unemployed. It was a blow to my self-esteem. It was beyond hard financially. I almost went to the wall and I fought for a couple of years just to get my head above water. (Hell even now I earn about $30 000/year less than I did then but that is okay my lifestyle is different and my expenses and I am doing okay). The things I would have quite happily done to any one of them, if I could have got away with it. I have even thought of sending an anonymous box of these for their birthday

https://www.amazon.com/Haribo-SUGAR-Clas...B006J1FBLM

But write a scathing nasty book to publicly humiliate them and colour the perception of them to all that may be exposed to them for years to come....I wish. Would I have deliberately misrepresented things, misinterpreted, lied or "misremembered". Ha! In a heartbeat.

So Again, I do not want to hear the "said to have remarked" bullshit. Until there is actual evidence of this, I call bullshit.

The birther claims. How the Fuck are THESE Racist? Believe that someone was born in another country (especially given the fact that this man SEEMS to have spent his early boyhood in Africa then in Indonesia and only seemed to have come to America in his College years) is NOT racist and only a fool would pronounce it so. In fact, it seems a perfectly legitimate question to ask and it SHOULD be asked. The only issue I have is in its framing. It ought to have ALWAYS been a want to proclaim the question or the doubt it rather than the more certain expression he was NOT born in America. How the fuck is that racist?

In line with this calling things that are not racist, racist, is the Central Park Five. A young girl is raped in Central Park and Donald Trump catches wind on this and reacts. (Similar to him reacting to something in Central Park and injecting himself in it publicly with the Wollman Rink) He is outraged at this poor girl being raped and there were 5 guys arrested. He throws is disdain at them and then when it turns out that it was not actually them at all, he does not print an apology or retraction in the papers or whatever. That is the story. Again it is a case where the passion seems fine. The indignation and outrage was fine. The want to frame them as guilty before the facts came in like the birther thing above was NOT good and neither was the want to not apologise afterwards. Completely in his character to be reactive and not to apologise after he gets it wrong but unto itself understandable but not a good way to go about things. It is wrong in the same way it is wrong when the people dogpiled on the Covington Kids and for the same reasons. But how the FUCK is THAT racist. Do YOU think it is worse or better if the poor girl is raped by 5 black men or 5 Asian men or 5 white guys? Same crime. Rape is rape. Pretty appalling you think this HAS to do with race.

What WAS fact though - "He declared there were some “very fine people on both side”, of a clash between white supremacists and counter-demonstrators in Charlottesville."

There fucking were. End of. Not up for debate. There ABSOLUTELY were some white supremacists on one side and there ABSOLUTELY were some Antifa on the other side and both of these groups are classified as Domestic Terrorist Groups. HOWEVER not ALL of the people on either side were belonging to EITHER of those groups. Some people protesting statues though on the same SIDE as the Antifa were not part of their group nor associating with their group and some people wishing to preserve monuments in the city were not associated or part of white Supremacists in their side.
What part of this do YOU not get you retard?

The fact that you cite these examples shows only that to me you are deliberately disingenuous. If you are forced to use such frivolous claims without any real substance I have to ask, "Why do you bother? Why not use facts, truth, and something with more substance?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm8n9qVIK_8

https://www.accessonline.com/articles/do...otel-66176

https://newsone.com/3732475/trump-not-ra...ara-young/

https://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/30/polit...index.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...-care.html

https://spectator.org/64643_when-trump-fought-racists/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRogXTFtpUc

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/05/24/polit...index.html

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/06/polit...index.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/31/trump-wi...d-for.html





Get the fuck out of here with that Trump is a racist bullshit.

[Rootilda]

[Fry Guy]

That is your level of intellectual critique.

[Duchess]

Stupid fucks.

Deaf, dumb and blind and calls other people stupid fucks.   That's hilarious...and typical of a trump defender.

[Duchess]

Trump Management Corporation

Trump casinos
 
The Central Park Five

The birth certificate

Muslim ban and Mexican ‘rapists’

Huts and Aids

Roo, Roo, Roo. You can't present facts in order to backup your claims to a trump defender. Facts & logic don't work in their alternate reality. Not ever.

[Fry Guy]

No, Duchess, she made claims of racism and then presented a list of things that were not racist, that have been bandied about Liberal media as accepted truths, and had these weak premises exposed and blown to kingdom come. She has not presented facts yet. Can you?

[MirahM]

I mean obviouisly he has black friends, Fry Guy's pictures PROOVES THAT! Plus he hangs out with Asians, he is married to Melania, and Fry Guy does make a point that he calls both white people and black people stupid! Saying shit hole countries is not racist at all, because they are IN FACT SHIT HOLE COUNTRIES! Plus saying he wishes more people from Norway would immigrate here-TOTALLY FINE.

[Fry Guy]

I mean obviouisly he has black friends, Fry Guy's pictures PROOVES THAT! Plus he hangs out with Asians, he is married to Melania, and Fry Guy does make a point that he calls both white people and black people stupid! Saying shit hole countries is not racist at all, because they are IN FACT SHIT HOLE COUNTRIES! Plus saying he wishes more people from Norway would immigrate here-TOTALLY FINE.

Correct.

He is reactive and has gone through life not needing to think through what he has to say well before he says it and not caring about offence. He is also arrogant, egotistical and a blowhard. Hardly endearing traits. But though these traits are not "nice" it does not make them bigoted.

I think these particular traits ordinarily would be distasteful I find in the highly charged environment where outrage and PC culture trades at a higher premium than it ought, having someone like Trump stomping all over that is not only a necessary evil but a thing of wonder