Beyond the Pandemic

[MirahM]

I think we are going to be here a while.

I am putting some notes together about things I am finding that are useful

HOW TO GET READY FOR CAPITALISM COLLAPSE *
- Bill Mollison, co-creator of Permaculture.
1. Learn to plant, not only an orchard, but also basic crops (corn, cassava, etc. ) and trees (fruit, native, woody);
2. Create a bond with some land, whether it's yours or that of a relative, a project, a community garden, etc. Participate with the people who live there, go gradually looking for ways to spend more time in the countryside than in the city, learning to plant, build, treat organic waste and heal in nature;
3. Develop practical skills (cooking, carpentry, machine repair, food processing, sewing, etc. ).
Teach these skills to children and friends, neighbors, neighbors;
4. Seek a mutual support group, where people take care of each other, make products of basic need collectively, such as natural hygiene products, natural remedies such as syrups and herbal tinctures, food processing, such as preserved and fermented foods;
5. Simplify your life now, releasing more space and time. Discover everything you can do without money, walk, exercises, crafts and body arts, socialize with your loved ones, gardening;
6. Separate from the logic of consuming more and more. They prefer handmade products that last a long time, quality, made by small producers, social companies and solidarity economic companies. Make exchanges, give and receive gifts of affective value, rather than financial value;
7. Exchange, store, multiply and spread creole seeds (native, not genetically modified, produced by popular and family farming);
8. Recognize that life will be much better afterwards! We're just transitioning.
"Our creativity is the limit of the system"

[Clang McFly]

So basically live a Walking Dead community of Alexandria lifestyle sans the zombies but with Trump supporters instead.

[HairOfTheDog]

Yeah, the prepper and survivalist communities are probably doing better than a whole lot of other people these days.

[cannongal]

Yeah, the prepper and survivalist communities are probably doing better than a whole lot of other people these days.

Permaculture is more of a homesteading community,  than prepper or survivalist.

[Duchess]

Yeah, the prepper and survivalist communities are probably doing better than a whole lot of other people these days.

I tend to think they are some of the same people losing their shit right now over being asked to self isolate and they aren't going to take it any more.   They've got their flags & their guns and they're saying shit like, "Jesus is all the vaccine I need".

[HairOfTheDog]

Yeah, the prepper and survivalist communities are probably doing better than a whole lot of other people these days.

Permaculture is more of a homesteading community,  than prepper or survivalist.

Yeah, I read a little about it.  https://modernfarmer.com/2016/04/permaculture/

The Walking Dead characters are preppers and survivalists though, which includes some elements of permaculture.

[HairOfTheDog]

Yeah, the prepper and survivalist communities are probably doing better than a whole lot of other people these days.

I tend to think they are some of the same people losing their shit right now over being asked to self isolate and they aren't going to take it any more.   They've got their flags & their guns and they're saying shit like, "Jesus is all the vaccine I need".

It wouldn't be surprising if some of the stay-at-home order protesters are preppers and survivalists.

Seems like a lot of the protests were organized by conservative media and political organizations though.  

I saw Alex Jones from Infowars screaming to a crowd of protesters in Austin.  How anyone takes that batshit circus barker seriously is beyond me.

[BigMark]

I'm embaressed.

[cannongal]

Yeah, the prepper and survivalist communities are probably doing better than a whole lot of other people these days.

I tend to think they are some of the same people losing their shit right now over being asked to self isolate and they aren't going to take it any more.   They've got their flags & their guns and they're saying shit like, "Jesus is all the vaccine I need".

I could see preppers doing that,  and maybe the wannabe survivalists.    Most survivalists that I know are perfectly content living in the woods all by themselves  for months at a time.    

Preppers? They're  batshit crazy.   They like to collect shit and eventually turn into hoarders with 30 year old cans of tuna and dead cats under the piles.

[Duchess]

hoarders 

Every time I see that word I think of the woman who hoarded poop encrusted bowls. Fuckin' hell. *gags* Those people need mental health help in the worst way.

[BigMark]

Your bowels arent poop encrusted?

[Maggot]

I think it will be OK............

[Maggot]

I'm kinda partial to the 5^th Dimension.............   They were really nice folk.

[Clang McFly]

I'm kinda partial to the 5^th Dimension.............   They were really nice folk.

Except for Mr Mxyptlk. 

(5^th Dimension prankster imp)