INSURRECTION

[BigMark]

They would have called in helicopters with miniguns and strafed the crowds.

[Duchess]

You want to see people die because they don't agree with your poltical beliefs.

Is that directed at me? It doesn't have anything to do with my political beliefs, that crowd was chanting hang Mike Pence, they were looking for him. What do you think they would have done if they found Speaker Pelosi? Should I assume that because you appear to be defending their actions that you are okay with that behavior and support it? Have you not seen any of the hours of video out there?

[BigMark]

I saw the capitol police escorting the demonstrator's...

[Clang McFly]

They would have called in helicopters with miniguns and strafed the crowds.

Who Trump? He wouldn't even call in The National Guard.

[BigMark]

At the Whitehouse?

[rothschild]

I see those of you who are minimizing what trump has blatantly justified. Mark referred to it as a "supposed" insurrection and rothschild pipes in with reference to the riots of 1968. trump convinced those people to be there. He wanted them to stop the count, be there it'll be wild he said. The intention was to stop the peaceful transfer of power. Some of his cult literally shit in our Capitol, lawmakers were running for their lives, some of those same lawmakers later went on to say it was a normal day for tourists on the Hill. Are you fucking kidding me.

If you'd read my posts you would have seen that I said Trump was the one who should be imprisoned, with the exception of those who brought weapons.

When you say that broadened context equates to minimization, you're saying that you're accustomed to seeing and judging events with minimized context.

Nothing happens in this world in isolation. Everything happens in relationship to environment, and environment is not limited to a particular place in time and space. Imagine video footage that's shot exclusively in close-up. Do you think that's going to effect how you perceive what was captured? Do you think it won't? Does it enhance understanding to view things exclusively from a close-up perspective, or it is better to include broader perspectives?

Who decides the perspective within which events are presented to the public? Do you think they're people who have no implicit biases? Do you think such people exist?

[rothschild]

You want to see people die because they don't agree with your poltical beliefs.

Is that directed at me? It doesn't have anything to do with my political beliefs, that crowd was chanting hang Mike Pence, they were looking for him. What do you think they would have done if they found Speaker Pelosi? Should I assume that because you appear to be defending their actions that you are okay with that behavior and support it? Have you not seen any of the hours of video out there?

Did you see the reaction of Democratic officials when *all* of the video footage was leaked?

I did.

[Duchess]

It's already been established that there were active & former LEO's helping the Oath Keepers. These are people who took an oath to uphold the law, much in the same way the president and lawmakers take an oath to our Constitution.

[Duchess]

Oops. That was intended for Mark. I had to step away and didn't check to see if anyone had posted in my absence.

[Clang McFly]

At the Whitehouse?

Sorry, thought you were talking about the insurrection at the Capitol on 1/6/21

[Duchess]

Did you see the reaction of Democratic officials when *all* of the video footage was leaked?

I did.

You're implying there is something more to it than what the world has already seen, so spit it out, rothschild. Share it with the class.

[Duchess]

Sorry, thought you were talking about the insurrection at the Capitol on 1/6/21

He was. He was being snarky with Love Child because she misidentified where the insurrection took place. She inadvertently said the White House rather than the Capitol. You know how some people are quick to point out someone's typos? It was like that.

[rothschild]

Did you see the reaction of Democratic officials when *all* of the video footage was leaked?

I did.

You're implying there is something more to it than what the world has already seen, so spit it out, rothschild. Share it with the class.

How can there not be more to it than what the world has seen when they didn't release all of the video footage? Why don't you share that with the class?

There's a NSA data collection facility in Utah with a sign in front that reads: If You Have Nothing To Hide, You Have Nothing To Fear. True, or not true?

[Duchess]

 If You Have Nothing To Hide, You Have Nothing To Fear. True, or not true?

True

[rothschild]

Ahh, understood. You've got nothing.

Psychology is very good at convincing people that nothing is actually something. That a shit sandwich is tasty and nutritious. Or a shit politician an honest and upstanding human being. Why? Because acknowledging this fact is acknowledging that we can be fooled, And that doesn't sit well with the ego.

Psychology is the most potent weapon in the world. By far.

[rothschild]

 If You Have Nothing To Hide, You Have Nothing To Fear. True, or not true?

True

Can you imagine how many theocrats would be emboldened by that response? Or communists? Or fascists? Or Democrats?

[Duchess]

You disagree with my response? 

[rothschild]

You disagree with my response? 

It's a bit of a trick question because the correct answer isn't yes or no.

Privacy is a fundamental human right because it is closely associated with freedom. It's essential for people to feel safe and secure.

Institutions such as government, on the other hand, neither have nor deserve such a right, because transparency is absolutely essential to democratic governance. For this reason I consider "national security" to be detrimental, because it requires us to assume that what is good for the state is also good for the people, which is completely antithetical to holding power accountable.

[Clang McFly]

Sorry, thought you were talking about the insurrection at the Capitol on 1/6/21

He was. He was being snarky with Love Child because she misidentified where the insurrection took place. She inadvertently said the White House rather than the Capitol. You know how some people are quick to point out someone's typos? It was like that.

Whew! I thought I had gained another level crazy. Craziness holding at 85%.

[BigMark]

Sorry, thought you were talking about the insurrection at the Capitol on 1/6/21

He was. He was being snarky with Love Child because she misidentified where the insurrection took place. She inadvertently said the White House rather than the Capitol. You know how some people are quick to point out someone's typos? It was like that.

No true.