Alec Baldwin

[sally]

Nobody is, he's a douche. So what's the argument about?

[rothschild]

Nobody is, he's a douche. So what's the argument about?

A douche whose dewshery has crossed over into criminality.

[rothschild]

I'd love to check his privilege by smashing a brick into his face.

[MirahM]

I'm watching his interview now.

The whole incident is unfortunate.
My sister is in the stage crew industry and belongs to IATSE.
It affects the industy.
The fact that people had walked off the set, camera crews were replaced, people felt unsafe, safety protocols not being followed and in the interview Alec says he didn't know this.
That is sad.
He tries to have common ground with Halyna saying, "We have something in common, in that we both thought the gun was not loaded"
It is so wierd how he says that more than once, like to bond them. Creepy.
He throws the amo gal under the bus. It is unfortunate for her that this happened. Really unfortunate.

Alec is consistent in his words in talking about his many years experience of handiing guns on the set saying he never ever checked them prior.
The interviewer asked him why he didn't.
And Alec even said it wasn't his responsibility. Or he said the accident wasn't his responsibiliy.

That is disapointing that he isn't taking any responsibility for this at all.

He also said that he never pulled the trigger.

Gun people-tell me how it is possible for the gun to fire a bullet w/out the trigger being pulled.

I know people think he should just sit down and shut up,
but really the more peope talk about themselves and something that happend the more they end up showing what an idiot they are.

He said a prop person once told him not to check the guns because they are just going to be handed back to the ammo person anyway, or it could cause something to go wrong...that is his excuse.

I don't 100% blame Alec for this tragic accident unless he were the one to put the bullet in the gun. But he is completely responsible for keeping people safe on the set and he failed to do that, resulting in death, by his own hands.

I haven't finished watching the interview yet, or read a lot about this case. Has anyone ruled out that someone planted it there because they were mad at him?
(I'll go back and re-read the thread)

[MirahM]

Just got to the end of the interview where he was asked if he felt guilty and Alec says no.
A clear no and an explanation following.

[rothschild]

It's damning because he shows no remorse at all. He claims he'd do anything to undo it, which is deceptive because that's impossible, and then proceeds to shift all responsibility onto others. And to top it off, he implies that the only reason the film crew walked off the set was because they wanted better accommodations.

Was he trying to come across as unlikeable?

[Duchess]

He'll never be criminally prosecuted for this.

[rothschild]

He'll never be criminally prosecuted for this.

As far as New Mexico law is concerned, if you kill someone while handling a firearm without exercising due caution and circumspection, you've committed involuntary manslaughter, and Baldwin has admitted to doing just that. So he's toast if he is prosecuted.

*Will* he be prosecuted? Maybe we should ask the Cuomo brothers how much white male privilege is worth these days?

[Duchess]

Maybe we should ask the Cuomo brothers how much white male privilege is worth these days?

Why do you do this? Are you incapable of following the conversation? My comment was in response to Alec Baldwin. If you want to complain about the Cuomo brothers, start a thread.

[rothschild]

Maybe we should ask the Cuomo brothers how much white male privilege is worth these days?

Why do you do this? Are you incapable of following the conversation? My comment was in response to Alec Baldwin. If you want to complain about the Cuomo brothers, start a thread.

I'm not complaining about them, I'm suggesting that their professional demise might give some insight into whether or not Alec is prosecuted.

[MirahM]

It's damning because he shows no remorse at all. He claims he'd do anything to undo it, which is deceptive because that's impossible, and then proceeds to shift all responsibility onto others. And to top it off, he implies that the only reason the film crew walked off the set was because they wanted better accommodations.

Was he trying to come across as unlikeable? 

Trying to save his ass only made him look like one!

[rothschild]

It's damning because he shows no remorse at all. He claims he'd do anything to undo it, which is deceptive because that's impossible, and then proceeds to shift all responsibility onto others. And to top it off, he implies that the only reason the film crew walked off the set was because they wanted better accommodations.

Was he trying to come across as unlikeable? 

Trying to save his ass only made him look like one!

He strikes me as a narcissist, like that gasbag that used to be president. I'd hate to be a lawyer for someone like that.

[Duchess]

I'm sorta gobsmacked that his attorney would have viewed an interview as being positive to his case. 

[BigMark]

The expert of smacking on gobs has spoken!

[Clang McFly]

He'll never be criminally prosecuted for this.

Agreed. He's more famous than Rittenhouse and that crocodile tears punk was acquitted.

[BigMark]

You would have stood there like a dummy and let them cave your skull in with a skateboard.

[Clang McFly]

You would have stood there like a dummy and let them cave your skull in with a skateboard.

I would have tucked my dick between my legs and ran away screaming like a little girl.

[rothschild]

That's what the mayor and governor did.

[rothschild]

This is interesting. Baldwin claims he didn't pull the trigger, but a single-action revolver will not discharge unless the trigger is depressed. It's theoretically possible that the hammer release was damaged/defective, but that is extremely unlikely and can easily be tested. Baldwin also admitted to having a safety meeting with the armorer, which means she fulfilled her legal obligation to inform him re safe operation, and it would then be incumbent upon him to ask questions if he did not understand any aspect.

If the gun is found to not be defective, and Baldwin did not pull the trigger, the only other possibility is that his finger was resting on the trigger as he pulled the hammer back and then released it, which constitutes firing the weapon, and that is an egregious level of negligence on his part, more than sufficient for him to be prosecuted and convicted.

Minutes ago a warrant was issued for Baldwin's cell phone, which might indicate a suspicion of obstruction. The 911 recording is very unusual as the woman who made the call was conversing with other people at the same time. Everyone on the set that day seemed more concerned with CYA than with the woman who was dying, which might be an indication of a toxic work environment.

When you combine all of this with the fact there had been two other accidental/negligent discharges, I'll be surprised if he isn't prosecuted, because there is almost no doubt at all that he acted negligently with respect to every aspect of the safe operation of the guns that were on the set.

[pyropappy]

"Stupid is as stupid does" Forest Gump's mama