Ron Desantis.

[Duchess]

You do discredit to yourself and everyone else when you make claims based on what the media told you and don't back it up.

Where do you get your information from, Sally? A hole in the ground? You present that as if the media is a big, scary monster and people don't know how to navigate the media on their own to find relevant information.

[sally]

How about just answer the question since you are claiming it. How exactly is he authoritarian?

Don't say gay

Book banning

He's gone after colleges and their curriculum--Black history

Punishing Disney because they don't agree with him

Keeps press out of his events

Do I really need to keep going? You're living it and are fine with it. It's backwoods, Sally.

You're the one who bought desantis into the conversation, I didn't. 

No one around to argue with at home? 

The damn thread title is Ron Desantis and you replied to it. You claim that he is authoritarian, but you don't explain why. Let's start with the first one you listed, dont say gay. Did you even read the bill?

[Duchess]

The damn thread title is Ron Desantis and you replied to it. You claim that he is authoritarian, but you don't explain why. Let's start with the first one you listed, dont say gay. Did you even read the bill?

We were talking about Covid, Sally, Covid. 

Yeah, I did claim that and I stand by it. Are you the only one entitled to your own opinion? If not, STFU already.

I didn't explain why? I listed some of the reasons why that's my opinion. Did you really need me to elaborate on why I have that opinion?

No, I did not read the bill, I read and listened to others that have, and not just one or two people, it was everywhere.

You shouldn't care so much about my opinion of your authoritarian state.

[sally]

How exactly can you form an opinion of someone just by going on what other people tell you? You said you didn't read the bill which doesn't reference the word gay anywhere by the way and is no way an attack on the LBGTQ community, but because people tell you that it is, you just believe it? And your misinformed opinion does matter because you are a voter in the US. If you're voting it's kind of important to know what exactly you're voting for or against.

[sally]

Did you look at the books that weren't actually banned, just removed from the public school's curriculum for age inappropriate content? Until you do that, you can't make an informed opinion on that either.

[sally]

Disney world. They pay 53 million in taxes per year, they make that up in a fucking day. You feel sorry for them?

[sally]

Black history. Florida Statutes require all African history be taught and discussed including slavery, civil rights and segregation so I don't know where you're getting that from either.

[Duchess]

[sally]

I've just addressed the first four things you stated as to why you think he's authoritarian without giving any facts backing it up and an emoji is your reply?

[sally]

You've admitted that you haven't researched any of it. You have taken the words of other's without any facts and formed an opinion for yourself that he is a homophobic, racist authoritarian because it fits with your agenda. Same as Aussie

[Duchess]

I've just addressed the first four things you stated as to why you think he's authoritarian without giving any facts backing it up and an emoji is your reply?

...but, I don't care. Not a wit. I gave my opinion and I stand by what I said. Why are you haranguing me about this, it's my fucking opinion. Holy shit balls.

[Duchess]

 he is a homophobic, racist authoritarian because it fits with your agenda. 

What's my agenda, Sally? I stated my opinion, and just for the record, I never said he is racist & homophobic, you're putting words in my mouth. I don't like his policies, but I don't have to, I don't live & vote in Florida.

[sally]

You can't have an opinion without knowing or considering the facts, if you do then your agenda is that you want this country to turn into communism. You stated the reasons why you think he is authoritarian with no reason other than you were told to think that way.

[sally]

He could join the race for presidency, how do you dislike his politics if you don't even know what the fuck they are? Your first answer as to why you think he's authoritarian is because of his so called don't say gay bill, but you never even fucking read it.

[sally]

Another thing, Florida advises against healthy children and healthy young men between the ages of 18 and 39 getting the vaccine, although they can still get it if they want, it's available. This is based on Florida health department data that shows an 87 percent increase in heart related deaths in men in that age group 28 days after receiving the vaccine. The data for healthy children is that they do not not need or benefit from it. Fact checkers ( owned by Facebook lol) say the data is faulty, as well as Saturday Night Live and Howard Stern.

[BlueTiki]

How about just answer the question since you are claiming it. How exactly is he authoritarian?

Don't say gay

Book banning

He's gone after colleges and their curriculum--Black history

Punishing Disney because they don't agree with him

Keeps press out of his events

Yeah . . . Just a bit of "the economy of truth " in your list.

Don't Say "gay" . . . never in the bill . . . nowhere

College Curriculum . . . When ONLY Critical Race Theory and 1619 are taught, at the exclusion of anything else

Book Banning . . . Graphic sexual and explicit material for kids 

Punishing Disney . . . No . . . revoked privileged tax status  (Iger was on board, too, with the decision)

Excludes Press . . . Funny . . . he's all over the news . . . who is he excluding?

[Duchess]

It’s easiest enough to find out, Tiki. He has numerous events that he blocks the media from.

[sally]

It’s easiest enough to find out, Tiki. He has numerous events that he blocks the media from.

Yeah and you know what that is, you don't let the media take pot shots at you with absolutely nothing to back it up which is exactly what you tried to do until I shut you down. Good strategy on his part.

[BlueTiki]

It’s easiest enough to find out, Tiki. He has numerous events that he blocks the media from.

Okay.  Not all . . . some.  Got it.

But that's not an exclusive "Ron" thing.  Presidents do it, too . . . along with many other politicians, in every political party.

Nothing new.

Now if he did it all the time . . . yeah . . . that would be troublesome . . . as it would be with anyone serving the public.

Like when Lightfoot banned all white reporters.  Not good.

[Duchess]

 which is exactly what you tried to do until I shut you down. 

  You nut. You're a drunk, middle-aged housewife running your mouth in an obscure forum, you didn't shut down anyone.