FAIRYTALES

[Duchess]

Hansel & Gretel is not a feel good story, kids.

[rothschild]

Is Peter Pan: or The Boy Who Would Not Grow Up, for children, or adults?

The answer to that lies in understanding J. M. Barrie's peculiar relationship with children who were not his own. Pan is a character that to a significant degree reflects those relationships. It's said that he never consummated his marriage, was a fetishist, and a stalker. Some would say he was a pedophile, but it seems to me that his attraction was about emotional manipulation and control, which is probably no less damaging.

[MirahM]

None of the fairy tales are! (Replying to Duchess)

Bears eating children in 3 bears and Goldilocks
A big wolf eating a grandmother in Little Red Riding hood
Evil stepparents are always a thing too

[BlueTiki]

Hansel & Gretel is not a feel good story, kids.

WHAT?

They got away from a child predator and they killed the bitch!

OK . . . maybe not a feel good story for the Jews.

The kids did use an oven to dispose of the old hag.

[pyropappy]

Hansel & Gretel is not a feel good story, kids.

Humanity has used fairytales to teach truths in a simple, understandable way since 1000 B.C.; none of them are supposed to feel good, they are supposed to be lessons in morality.

Today's culture has destroyed the concept of being responsible and moral people (it started with the Counterculture Movement during the 1960s), and it is why we face many of the problems we have today.

President John Adams: Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

It is high time we restore the true definition of the words Communism and Socialism, not the definitions used today that have been whitewashed by the progressives in this country.


Communism is the perfect form of government; it is a system where everything (property, means to produce goods and services, and the goods themselves) is owned in common and made available to all as needed.  Everyone is equal.

Marx himself defined Socialism as the transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism. A few enlightened individuals take control of everything (property, means to produce goods and services, and the goods themselves) until the people are ready to be in control of themselves.

This is the inherent problem with the entire idea; Communism is perfect, but to get there a few imperfect people must gain control of everything until the people are ready to be self-governing. Well, every time it has been tried those few in power decide the people are never ready because they are still imperfect, so they never relinquish the power they have usurped.

That is what has happened in D.C. over the past 100 years; a few power-hungry tyrants have usurped power they were never supposed to have and concentrated that power so they can dictate to the rest of us what we are allowed to think and how to live our lives.

D.C. is the classic definition of Socialism.

Big Government is Socialism, not Communism!

The irony of it all is the premise of transitioning to Communism is to create a classless society of self-governing perfect citizens; when in reality, that is exactly what the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, created almost 250 years ago, did.

The framers created, not a perfect form of government, but the best form of government for practical use by imperfect humans. What did Glinda the Good Witch say in The Wizard of Oz -

“You always had the power, my dear, you just had to learn it for yourself”

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This is as true today as it was in 1919 when Kipling wrote "Gods of the Copybook Headings". Our system of government is based on Nature's law; time to restore the natural checks and balances put in place by the founders that limit government and promote individual freedom.

AS I PASS through my incarnations in every age and race,


I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market Place. Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall, And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all.

We were living in trees when they met us. They showed us each in turn that Water would certainly wet us, as Fire would certainly burn: But we found them lacking in Uplift, Vision and Breadth of Mind, So we left them to teach the Gorillas while we followed the March of Mankind.
We moved as the Spirit listed. They never altered their pace,

Being neither cloud nor wind-borne like the Gods of the Market Place, But they always caught up with our progress, and presently word would come That a tribe had been wiped off its icefield, or the lights had gone out in Rome.

With the Hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch, They denied that the Moon was Stilton; they denied she was even Dutch; They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings; So we worshipped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things.

When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace. They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease. But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe, And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "Stick to the Devil you know."

On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life (Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife) Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith, And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "The Wages of Sin is Death."
In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all, By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;

But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy, And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "If you don't work you die."

Then the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smooth tongued wizards withdrew And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true That All is not Gold that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more.

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man

There are only four things certain since Social Progress began. That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire, And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;
And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins, As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn, The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return

[Duchess]

Evil stepparents are always a thing too

Fuck yeah. Look how Cinderella was treated.

[sally]

The Brothers Grimm got nothing on bible stories, particularly the old testament. The bloodiest bear attack in written history is a children's bible story. When a group of boys made fun of Elisha the prophet in Bethel for being bald, God became angered and sent two bears down two viciously attack and kill them. The moral of the story is not to make fun of people, particularly bald prophets.

[Carsman]

For the very rich, “their lives” are a Fairytale! So I’ve been told. 

And the original 1837 Hans Christian Andersen fairytale “Little Mermaid” 
was much darker than the Disney version. 
The dark version involves suicide and murder, with the little mermaid 
having her tongue cut off! Nasty! 

[Duchess]

Holy fuckity fuck.

[rothschild]

For the very rich, “their lives” are a Fairytale! So I’ve been told. 

What good is material wealth if one is empty on the inside?

[rothschild]

The Brothers Grimm got nothing on bible stories, particularly the old testament. The bloodiest bear attack in written history is a children's bible story. When a group of boys made fun of Elisha the prophet in Bethel for being bald, God became angered and sent two bears down two viciously attack and kill them. The moral of the story is not to make fun of people, particularly bald prophets.

The lesson of Jesus is, if you speak truthfully you'll be disowned by most of the people that held you up to be the messiah.

A dead god is a good god, and none understand that better than those who profess to be the living manifestation of God's agency.

[Carsman]

For the very rich, “their lives” are a Fairytale! So I’ve been told. 

What good is material wealth if one is empty on the inside?

Emptiness on the inside is not only reserved for the wealthy.  

[rothschild]

For the very rich, “their lives” are a Fairytale! So I’ve been told. 

What good is material wealth if one is empty on the inside?

Emptiness on the inside is not only reserved for the wealthy.  

Excess is the most reliable indicator of emptiness. Those who are truly wealthy fully understand the pitfalls of immoderation.

[Duchess]

Old money. *nods*

[rothschild]

Old money. *nods*

Is it money, or conduct, that is the measure of who we are? *nods back*

[Duchess]

I would say conduct.

[Carsman]

Said this elsewhere.

Money is not all that important, 

The people who haven’t are! 

People with money, that conduct themselves humbly, have “class”! 

[rothschild]

Your freudian slip is showing, Cars. 

[rothschild]

I would say conduct.

Temptation is a powerful force to be reckoned with. Nothing is more blinding than desire. But if there is no accounting as one exits the stage, does it really matter?

What do you think?

[Carsman]

Guess my class may be showing too?