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(06-15-2025, 02:47 PM)sally Wrote: He seems to be backing away from intervention with weapons and discussing peace talks instead despite pressure from the republicans. That’s the latest I heard from him anyway.
I think Republicans are a little split on the issue. The staunch Israeli supporters want us to support Israel (at almost any cost) but the America First contingent wants us to provide limited support (largely defensive).
I have not a clue what Trump will end up doing. It’s said he often seems to listen to the last person in the room.
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I hope he takes the more isolationism route, fuck these nut cases other than humanitarian support. Lebanon is over there celebrating as the bombs go off and Pakistan is ready to blow Israel a new asshole. Ya’ll have at it.
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He'll take whatever position will benefit him the most. It won't have anything to do with anyone else, it's trump first & foremost.
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That’s the way they all are, Duchess.
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(06-15-2025, 03:13 PM)sally Wrote: I hope he takes the more isolationism route, fuck these nut cases other than humanitarian support. Lebanon is over there celebrating as the bombs go off and Pakistan is ready to blow Israel a new asshole. Ya’ll have at it.
I heard a military talking head saying that Israel can’t destroy Iran’s nuclear capabilities (especially a facility that’s around a
1⁄
2 mile underground) without getting U.S B-52s and bunker busters involved.
I don’t know exactly what equipment we’re still giving Israel (figured they pretty much probably already had that level of arsenal from us) but if the talking head was right, twill be interesting.
I used to view Israel as some strong ally in the Middle East but given what they’ve done in the West Bank (for yearssss) and Gaza, my sympathy chip is broken.
You were right. It would have been better to give them a piece of Texas or something.
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Obviously people don’t take kindly to being kicked out of their homes and oppressed over some biblical bullshit that it’s their promised land. I wouldn’t. Now they fucked around a bit too much and I think we should be done backing it other than humanitarian aide. Their leaders aren’t God’s gift, in fact it’s the opposite and has done nothing but cause chaos and atrocities.
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(06-15-2025, 03:38 PM)Duchess Wrote: He'll take whatever position will benefit him the most. It won't have anything to do with anyone else, it's trump first & foremost.
The people that put Trump back in the White House have the power to remove him if the need arises. If Trump were to go against them it would be the end of him.
If Israel uses it's nuclear weapons the economic repercussions will be devastating, For Israel and the US, but Netanyahu has put Israel in a position that it will have to use them if the US cavalry doesn't ride to it's rescue, or it swallows it's pride and backs down. Trump gave Israel the green light to attack, will he swallow his pride and bring Netanyahu to heel? He will if someone higher up the food chain tells him to.
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Well Trump has a tough job right now on his hands.
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(06-15-2025, 03:55 PM)username Wrote: (06-15-2025, 03:13 PM)sally Wrote: I hope he takes the more isolationism route, fuck these nut cases other than humanitarian support. Lebanon is over there celebrating as the bombs go off and Pakistan is ready to blow Israel a new asshole. Ya’ll have at it.
I heard a military talking head saying that Israel can’t destroy Iran’s nuclear capabilities (especially a facility that’s around a 1⁄2 mile underground) without getting U.S B-52s and bunker busters involved.
I don’t know exactly what equipment we’re still giving Israel (figured they pretty much probably already had that level of arsenal from us) but if the talking head was right, twill be interesting.
I used to view Israel as some strong ally in the Middle East but given what they’ve done in the West Bank (for yearssss) and Gaza, my sympathy chip is broken.
You were right. It would have been better to give them a piece of Texas or something.
Their goal was to decapitate Iran's leadership and bring about regime change. They came close to doing that but the element of surprise is gone, so they failed. Any US forces that try to engage Iran will immediately come under attack and there will be serious losses.
The US can destroy Iran but it would ultimately be an act of national suicide. Are Trump and his billionaire buddies planning to crawl into their bunkers and ride it out, content in bringing about the Great Reset? I guess we're going to find out.
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It’s worrisome and I ain’t paying my goddamn taxes that are due. He better tell Netanyahu to sit the fuck down because we’re not supporting his bullshit and nobody else’s either.
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(06-15-2025, 05:19 PM)sally Wrote: It’s worrisome and I ain’t paying my goddamn taxes that are due. He better tell Netanyahu to sit the fuck down because we’re not supporting his bullshit and nobody else’s either.
He’s kind of happily touting that he told Israeli officials not to take out Iran’s supreme leader.
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According to Trump, Putin wants to be a mediator between the two. I’m not totally against it if that’s the truth lol.
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