Hey O.P.

[F.U.]

Reading your post about you hunting in the violence thread raised a few questions.

With the restrictions on guns in your country, where and how docitizens store the guns that they arepermitted to own?

What kind of gun was it you personally used hunting?

What is the most common gun owned by the average citizen?

[Sinister]

Heh. I know some of the answers to your first question, FU. This oughtta be interesting.

[Cynical Ninja]

Reading your post about you hunting in the violence thread raised a few questions.

With the restrictions on guns in your country, where and how docitizens store the guns that they arepermitted to own?

What kind of gun was it you personally used hunting?

What is the most common gun owned by the average citizen?

I have only ever owned shotguns, I have never owned pistols or rifles or anything else more powerful.

A shotgun certificate will cost you £50, it can only be denied if your local chief of police in the area believes and can prove that the applicant poses a real danger to the public, or if the applicant has been convicted of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term of three years or more (unless they have been acquitted) or if the applicant cannot securely store a shotgun (gun clamps, wire locks and locking gun cabinets are considered secure). The round number restrictions apply only to the magazine, not the chamber, so it is legal to have a single-barreled semi-auto or pump-action shotgun that holds three rounds in total, or a shotgun with 5 separate chambers that holds 5 rounds. However, revolver guns do not fall into this category so multi-chamber shotguns would need to also be multi-barrel. For a shotgun to be held on an SGC,it must be a smooth-bore gun (that is not an air-gun) which: (a) has a barrel not less than 24inches (610mm) in length and does not have any barrel with a bore more than 2inches (51mm) in diameter;
(b) either has no magazine or has a non-detachable magazine not capable of holding more than two cartridges;
© is not a revolver gun.

My favourite shotgun was a Valmet , over and under, 12 gauge, I used that quite lot, I can't remember the exact model though. I only ever used birdshot and occasionally buckshot, the shot size is just the diameter of the pellet given in millimetres in the UK.

In the UK shotguns are by far the most common kind of gun owned, generally double barrelled or over and under versions.

[F.U.]

Thanks OP. I never really took the time to look into the specifics before. But it looks as though some of the restrictions you have are similar to what we deal with.
Talking only shotguns now. Our barrel length is restricted to 18 ¹⁄₂ inches [ I believe it is] where yours is 24 inches, as well as a total length minimum restriction on ours. We also have limitations on the magazine capacity of a shotgun, however it is only in effect when water foul hunting and is 3 rounds. Do you have a age restriction? Ours is 18 for a long gun, and 21 for a hand gun. As well as restrictions on convicted felons , as well as people convicted of domestic abuse.
Now when it comes to rifles and hand guns they have there own rules.

I am a double barrel guy myself. I prefer a side by side rather than a over and under. I prefer the 12 gauge, but also use my 10 gauge. I prefer #5 shot in the 10 and #4 shot in the 12.

Now are hand guns totally restricted? Or is there a process to obtain a pistol?

[Sinister]

I prefer a side by side rather than a over and under.

Why is that, FU? Just curious.....

[F.U.]

I prefer a side by side rather than a over and under.

Why is that, FU? Just curious.....

When bird hunting you don"t need to lead the bird with a SxS . If it is flying left I just put the bead on the beak and let the left barrel fly. And use the right barrel when flying right. The gun is automatically leading the bird. Plus with most of the SxS you havetwo diff chokes. Usually full and mod.

[AnonyMoose]

When bird hunting

They don't sell rock cornish game hens at your local store?

[Cynical Ninja]

Thanks OP. I never really took the time to look into the specifics before. But it looks as though some of the restrictions you have are similar to what we deal with.
Talking only shotguns now. Our barrel length is restricted to 18 ¹⁄₂ inches [ I believe it is] where yours is 24 inches, as well as a total length minimum restriction on ours. We also have limitations on the magazine capacity of a shotgun, however it is only in effect when water foul hunting and is 3 rounds. Do you have a age restriction? Ours is 18 for a long gun, and 21 for a hand gun. As well as restrictions on convicted felons , as well as people convicted of domestic abuse.
Now when it comes to rifles and hand guns they have there own rules.

I am a double barrel guy myself. I prefer a side by side rather than a over and under. I prefer the 12 gauge, but also use my 10 gauge. I prefer #5 shot in the 10 and #4 shot in the 12.

Now are hand guns totally restricted? Or is there a process to obtain a pistol?

No hand guns are not totally banned no matter how much retards like MF like to think they are. I don't usually copy and paste but................

All firearms in the United Kingdom must be licensed on either a firearm certificate (FAC) or a shotgun certificate.
Shotguns are defined in UK law as smoothbore firearms with barrels not shorter than 24" and a bore not larger than 2" in diameter, no revolving cylinder, and either no magazine or a non-detachable magazine that is not capable of holding more than two cartridges.[4][/sup] This effectively gives a maximum three round overall capacity, while shotguns with a capacity exceeding 2+1 rounds are subject to a firearm certificate. Shotguns thus defined are subject to a slightly less rigorous certification process.
A firearm certificate differs from a shotgun certificate in that justification must be provided to the police for each firearm; these firearms are individually listed on the certificate by type, calibre, and serial number. A shotgun certificate similarly lists type, calibre and serial number, but permits ownership of as many shotguns as can be safely accommodated. To gain permission for a new firearm, a "variation" must be sought, for which a fee is payable, unless the variation is made at the time of renewal, or unless it constitutes a one-for-one replacement of an existing firearm which is to be disposed of. The certificate also sets out, by calibre, the maximum quantities of ammunition which may be bought/possessed at any one time, and is used to record the purchasing of ammunition (except, optionally, where ammunition is both bought, and used immediately, on a range).
To obtain a firearm certificate, the police must be convinced that a person has "good reason" to own each gun, and that they can be trusted with it "without danger to the public safety or to the peace". Under Home Office guidelines, gun licenses are only issued if a person has legitimate sporting or work-related reasons for owning a gun. Since 1946, self-defence has not been considered a valid reason to own a gun. The current licensing procedure involves: positive verification of identity, two referees of verifiably good character who have known the applicant for at least two years (and who may themselves be interviewed and/or investigated as part of the certification), approval of the application by the applicant's own family doctor, an inspection of the premises and cabinet where guns will be kept and a face-to-face interview by a Firearms Enquiry Officer (FEO) also known as a Firearms Liaison Officer (FLO). A thorough background check of the applicant is then made by Special Branch on behalf of the firearms licensing department. Only when all these stages have been satisfactorily completed will a license be issued.
Any person who has spent more than three years in prison is automatically banned for life from obtaining a gun licence.[5][/sup]
Any person holding a gun licence must comply with strict conditions regarding such things as safe storage. These storage arrangements are
checked by the police before a license is first granted, and on every renewal of the licence. A local police force may impose additional conditions on ownership, over and above those set out by law. Failure to comply with any of these conditions can mean forfeiture of the gun licence and surrender of any firearms to the police. The penalty for possession of a prohibited firearm without a certificate is currently a mandatory minimum five year prison sentence and an uncapped fine.[6][/sup]
In addition, the Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006 increased restrictions on the use, ownership, sale and manufacture of both airguns and imitation firearms.[7][/sup]

[F.U.]

Thanks OP.
I don't mind the cut and paste at all. After bashing your gun laws for how long now, I figured I might as well know what the laws actually are.
It sounds like your licensing, and our registering are along the same lines. Here each gun, upon transfer of ownership is to be registered with the ATF [ alcohol, tobacco & firearms] Plus each individual goes through a background check. But that procedure is used on all types of guns.[ Except muzzle loaders.] But we dont have to give reasons or needs, give personal referancesor show proof of safetyto purchase a handgun or long gun. Just the desire to purchase, a permit to purchase, the cash in hand and clear the background check. I think some states may have a waiting period to actually receive that gun. But I am not sure about that. I am not a licensed dealer, so I am not 100% up to speed on the current laws. So if I am wrong and someone can correct me please do.

So that leads me to the question , If it is that difficult of a procedure to buy a gun, Is there any such thing as a gun collector In GB?

And ifthere are gun collectors, what would be considered a large collection?

As well as, how does 1 individual sell and transfer ownership of a gun to another individual? Or is it the same procedureas a gun dealer to a individual sale and transfer?

[F.U.]

When bird hunting

They don't sell rock cornish game hens at your local store?

They sure do Moose. Pheasant hunting is a big thing up here in corn country.

[Sinister]

When bird hunting you don"t need to lead the bird with a SxS . If it is flying left I just put the bead on the beak and let the left barrel fly. And use the right barrel when flying right. The gun is automatically leading the bird. Plus with most of the SxS you havetwo diff chokes. Usually full and mod.

That makes perfect sense. I have never been bird hunting, but I love to shoot skeet. I will have to try both types to see the difference. Thanks, FU!!