Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[onefortheroad]

I think all of us know without a doubt that Maytee loved her son deeply...none of us think she had anything to do with it at all...she loved him with all of her heart and soul...

however, there is a rumor floating around that her husband got busted with a truck full of heroin and that she turned informant to keep her husband and her out of jail...that maybe someone took revenge on her for snitching on them and going after what she loved most inthe world which was her son...that could be total B.S. but that is what is going around in some of the gangsta circles locally...and that the robbery was secondary... that might have been why she was soooo freaked out with the first phone call...her biggest fear...thinking it was coming to fruition...I totally think that is beyond sad if it is true and almost feel even more sorry for her if it is...

I think you may have mentioned this in an earlier post, and it could fit. Are there any theories as to who might have carried out the murders? And any rumors regarding involvement by TW?

If true, this would be an unbearable burden for a mother to carry, and I agree with you completely.

I just had the most chilling thought .... what if it was part of the plan for his father to find him!!!

[JsMom]

jc and ls must have parked in driveway and probably left garage door up. perps came in as ls was changing out of her uniform.and shut garage door jmo. and just coincidence tiff calls to see if they are home yet. then give the signal. they are there!JMO! in my heart i feel she is involved,again just MY opinion. you can bet all players are being watched closely. i do not think it was tiffany here posting.jmo

Sharit, whoever posted was invited here privately ala TW's Facebook account. I think it was her and/or her boyfriend posting here.

Really

My poor sentence structure aside, yes. A mock member invited her to share her side of the story. So, unless someone hacked TW's facebook, or had access, it was her.

It was her because before i invited her here we were talkin and she was using "gangsta" slang!

[catch22]

The only thing I've heard, is the car was in the driveway.

thanks jane
I saw that but that was Tiff that said that i would like to
know from someone else because i have seen it on other
web sites that says garage

I looked at a video, just now. The one where LE is talking to reporters, at the scene, with all the yellow crime scene tape. You can see the house from a distance, but the garage must be off to a side of the home, or in the back, because it's not in the front. There is no car parked in the driveway, that you can see, anyway. If I'm not mistaken, Maytee said the car was there, so if it was in the garage, I was wondering if the garage has windows? .. You're right, I think it was TW who said the car was in the drive.

i thought the "car in the driveway" was TW's car that maytee had "blocked in" (i guess so she couldn't get away?) in one of the 911 calls. i think i remember someone saying that lisa's car was "there", but not definitively that it was either in the garage or driveway. i might be misremembering, though....

yes, that happened also. Maytee apparently blocked TW's car, at the residence, but I don't know if Lisa's car was in the garage or not ??

pure speculation, but i know whenever my parents go out of town, that i take over the garage. i've even moved their car out for the week or whatever just so i could use the garage. add to it that it's winter and very cold......i'd almost guarantee her car was in the garage. (yes, i live in the basement, too, if you were wondering. haha.) i guess we still don't know for sure, though. dammit!

[Lady Cop]

Catch22, good question about the possibility of a taser being used. if that happened, there will be marks on the body or bodies.
but a taser will not necessarily render someone unconscious. it just short-circuits the nervous system and the muscles briefly.

[PURPLECATS]

thanks jane
I saw that but that was Tiff that said that i would like to
know from someone else because i have seen it on other
web sites that says garage

I looked at a video, just now. The one where LE is talking to reporters, at the scene, with all the yellow crime scene tape. You can see the house from a distance, but the garage must be off to a side of the home, or in the back, because it's not in the front. There is no car parked in the driveway, that you can see, anyway. If I'm not mistaken, Maytee said the car was there, so if it was in the garage, I was wondering if the garage has windows? .. You're right, I think it was TW who said the car was in the drive.

i thought the "car in the driveway" was TW's car that maytee had "blocked in" (i guess so she couldn't get away?) in one of the 911 calls. i think i remember someone saying that lisa's car was "there", but not definitively that it was either in the garage or driveway. i might be misremembering, though....

yes, that happened also. Maytee apparently blocked TW's car, at the residence, but I don't know if Lisa's car was in the garage or not ??

pure speculation, but i know whenever my parents go out of town, that i take over the garage. i've even moved their car out for the week or whatever just so i could use the garage. add to it that it's winter and very cold......i'd almost guarantee her car was in the garage. (yes, i live in the basement, too, if you were wondering. haha.) i guess we still don't know for sure, though. dammit!

thanks all i'm thinking its the garage too

[Lady Cop]

these photos of the Straub house are courtesy of DickTracy...thankyou~~

except for the one clearly from TV station.

[catch22]

Catch22, good question about the possibility of a taser being used. if that happened, there will be marks on the body or bodies.
but a taser will not necessarily render someone unconscious. it just short-circuits the nervous system and the muscles briefly.

yeah, maybe tazed him and then quickly strangled him? either to unconsciousness or death....

[DickTracy]

these photos of the Straub house are courtesy of DickTracy...thankyou~~

except for the one clearly from TV station.

Thank you LC !

[Jane]

The Straub's home IS a nice home, in a nice looking neighborhood, for sure.

[Jane]

these photos of the Straub house are courtesy of DickTracy...thankyou~~

except for the one clearly from TV station.

thank you! I've been googling it, with the arrows & all, lol!

[Mommabear]

Can anyone decipher the tattoo on left arm?

Maytee would be proud of his looks for sure!

http://www.facebook.com/pages/RIP-Johnny...57&theater

I can't tell, but it ends with e t t e, & it looks like it starts with a J

I think it says Jamilette.

[catch22]

I think all of us know without a doubt that Maytee loved her son deeply...none of us think she had anything to do with it at all...she loved him with all of her heart and soul...

however, there is a rumor floating around that her husband got busted with a truck full of heroin and that she turned informant to keep her husband and her out of jail...that maybe someone took revenge on her for snitching on them and going after what she loved most inthe world which was her son...that could be total B.S. but that is what is going around in some of the gangsta circles locally...and that the robbery was secondary... that might have been why she was soooo freaked out with the first phone call...her biggest fear...thinking it was coming to fruition...I totally think that is beyond sad if it is true and almost feel even more sorry for her if it is...

I think you may have mentioned this in an earlier post, and it could fit. Are there any theories as to who might have carried out the murders? And any rumors regarding involvement by TW?

If true, this would be an unbearable burden for a mother to carry, and I agree with you completely.

I just had the most chilling thought .... what if it was part of the plan for his father to find him!!!

yeah, you'd think it would be very unlikely, but if anyone is crazy enough to kill their own child........

still unlikely, but i would put a "robbery gone bad" that maytee set up as much more likely than an intended murder. i mean, who would really believe that lisa's dad would give JC the combination to the safe (if it's even true that JC told people that)? maybe maytee? one RUMOR was that there was $100,000 cash in the safe?

some of her actions and "knowledge" seem suspicious, but she most likely has absolutely nothing to do with this, but....

her not going to the scene initially. was she distancing herself from the crimescene? letting others make the discovery? blaming the "concerned friend" for setting them up for no apparent reason? over the top grieving and threats to the perps? wanting to blame this on someone from lisa's side? sure, there are also possible logical reasonable explanations for all of these things too......

herion, huh? could maytee and tiff have been rival dealers? stealing each others' clients? rumors about being informants or snitches? could maytee have been supplying and johnny "moving" the product?

again, just brainstorming, you would think that if they were THAT involved in dealing drugs, that they wouldn't be living in a trailer (if this is even the case, ha.)

[heyyou]

ok, this is another reason I find it hard to believe TW's involved. She's going on about life, as usual. She's not crying on FB, over-doing the 'sad person' stuff. I can't word, properly, what I mean, ugh..

I think carrying on as if nothing happened makes her look guilty, especially coming so soon after 2 of her friends that she says she'd spent the previous evening with were savagely murdered such a short time before she says they were going to get together!

could be, but it comes across to me, like she's not worried about anything. Hell, I don't know!

I agree that she doesn't seem worried, but IMO her lack of concern is down to hardness and not to innocence. This is a person who lost one of her baby daddies to murder and then moves on to one of his criminal associates, so it would take a lot to rattle her.

Very much agree. These are gang members we're talking about. People who take extreme violence in stride - and also commit it. Now, when it's one of their homies they don't want killed, there's a display like the one they had for Donald.

thats funny u say that cause idk if this was already mentioned still reading threw the thread but donald was a (BLOOD)
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[Lady Cop]

heyyou:
thats funny u say that cause idk if this was already mentioned still reading threw the thread but donald was a (BLOOD)


ALLEGED to be a Blood.

[heyyou]

heyyou:
thats funny u say that cause idk if this was already mentioned still reading threw the thread but donald was a (BLOOD)


ALLEGED to be a Blood.

well i do know he was indeed a blood

[Jane]

just listened to the 911 call again. Maytee says "the car is in the driveway".. she's says it twice

edited to add - it's where you can tell Maytee is getting pissed off w/the dispatcher ... Lisa's car WAS in the driveway

[Lady Cop]

heyyou:
thats funny u say that cause idk if this was already mentioned still reading threw the thread but donald was a (BLOOD)


ALLEGED to be a Blood.

well i do know he was indeed a blood

'
here at Mock you need to state it as your opinion or provide a credible link to that information. even though he is deceased.
thanks~

[PURPLECATS]

these photos of the Straub house are courtesy of DickTracy...thankyou~~

except for the one clearly from TV station.

Thank you LC !

thank you for the pix DT

[broke331]

Can anyone decipher the tattoo on left arm?

Maytee would be proud of his looks for sure!

http://www.facebook.com/pages/RIP-Johnny...57&theater

I can't tell, but it ends with e t t e, & it looks like it starts with a J

i'm thinking it is his mom's name Maytee

I think it says Jamilette.

[heyyou]

heyyou:
thats funny u say that cause idk if this was already mentioned still reading threw the thread but donald was a (BLOOD)


ALLEGED to be a Blood.

well i do know he was indeed a blood

'
here at Mock you need to state it as your opinion or provide a credible link to that information. even though he is deceased.
thanks~

sorry.. this is just from knowing personally i live in toledo and know quite a few people