Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[Lady Cop]

and she doesn't have the temerity to talk back to herself either!
hahahahaha

[shitstorm]

The Benefit this week is for LISA. No one else.
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?tab=3#!...1001088310

From FOX News
The family of Ms. Straub is asking you to donate to the Lisa Straub Benefit fund, which is accepting donations at any Fifth Third Bank branch.

In addition, a benefit for Ms. Straub will be held Thursday, Feb. 24, at TGI Friday's, Bernath Parkway and Airport Highway. The benefit runs from 12-10 p.m. Money raised from the benefit will be donated to the reward fund.

If you have any information that could assist detectives with this case you are asked to call Crimestopper at 49-255-1111. You can remain anonymous.

Please respect this family.

again insinuating herself into this case and the family. it almost gives the impression she is speaking for them.

repulsive cow. i see right through you.

I couldn't agree more. I think it's appalling.

[SayWhat123]

Well good night Mockers. Hope to hear some knew news soon.

[DickTracy]

IMO - I think AP was the one answering questions on here under Tiffs name. When he was sending messages to people who posted on Justice for Johnny Clarke and Lisa Straub, was exactly the way the person was typing on here.

[sharit]

My apologies if this has already been discussed and answered....

I am really curious as to why LE is stating that the couple was murdered between 1am-4am.

Tiffany was supposedly on the phone around 11pm when things began to happen. So, does this mean that they are discrediting Tiffany's timeline, or do they believe the killers were there for 2+ hours before killing Lisa and Johnny??

Also, I believe the bodies were discovered at 3:50am, and were already cold to the touch.

I'm just confused as to why the possible time of death begins at 1am instead of 11pm.

Maytee tells 911 Johnny is cold and stiff to the touch. That means they would've been dead closer to 11pm. And that means the intruders came right in and let the killing begin...

They came to kill

i think they came to kill also.

[kitty1]

LC (and anyone else) what about the early reports that the parents did not believe the bags and tape were from their house? do you think this was a mistake or false information? do you think the bags and tape were brought to haul away whatever they were there to take as some have suggested? or to secure johnny and lisa as they took what they wanted?

do you think if this was a robbery motive that they did not mean for johnny and lisa to be there? if it was someone they knew or were acquainted with i would think they'd want to enter when johnny and lisa were away to avoid being identified, unless murder was in the plans? (to those of you who will say they may have worn ski masks... there are other ways to ID besides seeing someone's face). unless it was someone they knew that "set them up" and sent people they wouldn't be familiar with???

sorry i'm rambling... it might not make sense as i'm typing as my thoughts come...

I think it's vital to know whether or not the bags came from the Straub residence or were brought in. If they were brought in it is VITAL to know what kind of bags they were, i.e. clear, grocery, garbage sized, etc., in order to try to figure out what the intentions for the bags were.

I think LC's point is that it doesn't matter why this happened, it doesn't matter who did it or how, the DNA and crime scene evidence will be the proof for the convicitions. Correct?

I was reading on one of the other sites the other day, posted by someone like Unknown or Grieving Friend - someone with intimate knowledge of information - that the bags and tape were from Bed Bath & Beyond, and implied that they were brought to the house.

Wish I could find that comment, because I do remember something about it. I thought it was here, though. I thought they 'said' the tape & bags were IN a BB&B bag. Do we know for sure that the family stated these weren't things that belonged to the Straub's?

i'm pretty sure the bb&b thing came from '''unknown" i think she posted it here somewhere, but i'm not gonna look lol

[TotallyCurious]

Sorry, still not satisfied. WHY would John Sr. remove anything from the scene, if they weren't involved & if you believe they were involved, I ask what would they have to gain?

There has been Nothing implied or stated here or Officially that John S took anything from that crime scene. Besides a broken heart.

Can't you see the parents as victims here? I sure can.

No offense but DUH! That's my point!!! I'm looking at the Clarkes as victims & always have been although it's been hard because of the way Maytee has publicly carried on. I DO see them as victims which is why I'm trying to comprehend why anyone would choose to think that the Clarkes in any way concealed evidence of the crime scene or took part in the set up or murder of their child which has been implied here over & over again!

Sorry...but the previous posts that has lead to all this have been vague and hard to comprehend. If you and I are in agreement then a "thumbs up for us both"....

Zero I believe we are on the same page. Sorry for the confusion lol that was directed at the person who wants so badly to believe that the Clarkes were involved in the horrible murder of their son & that is uncomprehensible to me.

THere is alot of hunting done in the Lucas and Wood Counties. Dads and Uncles
take their sons, friends, nephews hunting. If one of them gets shot in the
hunt, it is certainly not the fault of the parents, but the parents did indeed
put the young hunters into that situation. Or even perhaps set up land to
be hunted. thought hunters had left, but alas, the youth were in the vicinity
early and got caught in some gun exchange. Yes the parents would be victims.
Surely. They would be somewhat responsible if the parents had scoped out the territory and miscalculated when who would be where. Just a thought. Makes one really sick, panicky, paranoid, angry, bitter throwing blame.
I return to my regularly schedule program. "Tis been nice 'yall.

[Inspector Gary]

Anyone find info on who was arrested during the 3 day sweep?

I tried plugging some names into the website below to see if any of the people mentioned had been arrested. I noticed there were several arrests for Willams, but did not recognize the names and will not post them. I did a search, with just the last name (Williams), for the dates of 2/17/11- 2/20/11 and came up with several. Curious if anyone recognizes any of these. There were some drug trafficking, assault, riot, etc. included...


http://www.tmc-clerk.com/criminaltraffic/Default.aspx

[kitty1]

good night everybody!!!

[DickTracy]

good night everybody!!!

G'Night & Sleep well!

[Wish.I.was.a.P.I]

If many people knew Johnny was at friends watching the pro bowl and Lisa was at work, has any one considered that the robbery was supposed to take place earlier and that they came home earlier than expected and interrupted the act?

Yes...that possibility has been proposed tonight when the TOD time was disgussed. Coroner has expanded it to include 10pm to 4am

I dont think so.... his car was supposably in the driveway, and if thats true they would have seen that. if they had no intention on doing physical harm, they would have waited until another night

Hi 'stoof725'....I think what 'Wish.I.was.a.P.I' is suggesting is JC was away from the Straub house, that JC was at other friends while LS was at work, and the crime may have taken place earlier and the entire timeline moved up and I am adding this >>> JC goes from friends house and picks LS up at 10p, not 11p and brings her home earlier than expected so a simple burglary becomes a robbery and things deteriorate from there.

Thanks Zero, you are correct, that is what I am suggesting/wondering.

[Jane]

Im saying that the intruders knew who Johnny was on the phone with. That was part of the plan Tiffany calls to make sure Johnnys there. Other wise the perps woulnt have taken their good ole time doing what they were doing. If they wouldnt have known who was on the other line they would have gotten out of there quick in fear of the cops being called.

They had to have known they were safe, which means Tiffany was part of it. But let's say the perps got in at the same time or shortly after Johnny and Lisa got home, and it was the perps who called Tiffany, not Johnny or Lisa ..... Maybe ZB had told the perps there was a safe and money, and there were some calls back and forth when they couldn't find it.

This is also a possibility but I think Tiffany was on the phone getting them to open the door for the intruders, IMO.

Maybe this has been asked tonight. Do we know, for a fact, that TW called Johnny/Lisa? Could it have been the other way around ? Wish I had thought to ask that, the other night!

[Freshbait78]

There has been Nothing implied or stated here or Officially that John S took anything from that crime scene. Besides a broken heart.

Can't you see the parents as victims here? I sure can.

No offense but DUH! That's my point!!! I'm looking at the Clarkes as victims & always have been although it's been hard because of the way Maytee has publicly carried on. I DO see them as victims which is why I'm trying to comprehend why anyone would choose to think that the Clarkes in any way concealed evidence of the crime scene or took part in the set up or murder of their child which has been implied here over & over again!

Sorry...but the previous posts that has lead to all this have been vague and hard to comprehend. If you and I are in agreement then a "thumbs up for us both"....

Zero I believe we are on the same page. Sorry for the confusion lol that was directed at the person who wants so badly to believe that the Clarkes were involved in the horrible murder of their son & that is uncomprehensible to me.

THere is alot of hunting done in the Lucas and Wood Counties. Dads and Uncles
take their sons, friends, nephews hunting. If one of them gets shot in the
hunt, it is certainly not the fault of the parents, but the parents did indeed
put the young hunters into that situation. Or even perhaps set up land to
be hunted. thought hunters had left, but alas, the youth were in the vicinity
early and got caught in some gun exchange. Yes the parents would be victims.
Surely. They would be somewhat responsible if the parents had scoped out the territory and miscalculated when who would be where. Just a thought. Makes one really sick, panicky, paranoid, angry, bitter throwing blame.
I return to my regularly schedule program. "Tis been nice 'yall.

Tie this into Tiffany & we'll talk since I believe she is a key player in this. Untill then I believe that Johnny reaping what his parents MAY have sown is unfounded.

[sharit]

Lisa Straub - Injustice
Just a heads up. I NEVER ban or delete posts. That is my number one rule. You say vulgar stuff on my page, I leave it. I have to warn the abusers, that every single comment is being screen shot and will be placed on this group's photo album. So, if you are willing to threat the administrators of this group, or make defamation comments, don't think you can delete your comment after. I screen shot everything.
7 minutes ago

Why would this person even WANT the hassle of all this ??

i was wondering the same thing. from what i understand its not that difficult to find a url and get an address. correct me if i am wrong.

[Countryside_Belle]

I have noticed that some of you have the same avatar pictures, but different names. It's very confusing to me when I'm trying to interact with you all. Sorry.

[Countryside_Belle]

Lisa Straub - Injustice
Just a heads up. I NEVER ban or delete posts. That is my number one rule. You say vulgar stuff on my page, I leave it. I have to warn the abusers, that every single comment is being screen shot and will be placed on this group's photo album. So, if you are willing to threat the administrators of this group, or make defamation comments, don't think you can delete your comment after. I screen shot everything.
7 minutes ago

Lisa Straub - Injustice
I have now started to ban people. I suggest you go to other pages. I never invited any of you to like my page. I made this page for ME. I feel sorry for the injustice to Lisa. Period. I dont need any members on this page.
41 minutes ago

Wow, she admitted it was only for Lisa! Very sad. That's too bad.

[shitstorm]

It is accurate because Lisa was at work until 11pm. Johnny picked her up from work when her shift was over and they went to Lisa's house.

According to Tiffany she was on the phone with Johnny at 11 when all the ruckus went down, are you sure about the time?

I think quite a few people can verify that Lisa's shift was over at 11pm and that is when Johnny picked her up from work. So the Tiffany phone call was more likely 11:15 - 11:30pm.

i'm pretty positive that Lisa's shift was over at 10

I think you are right. But either way, the phone call records would show who he was on the phone with and what time.
Tiffany says to the 911 dispatcher that she was on the phone with both of them but then Johnny hung up. Does that mean they were passing Lisa's cell phone back and forth talking to Tiffany?

Did anybody else catch this?

Yes, I caught it. It was either a lie or they (J&S) were on the speaker.

[Freshbait78]

There is yet another page on FB for this case. This one reportedly created by Lisas family. It's a reward page:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Lisa-Strau...6121073745

[Lady Cop]

There is yet another page on FB for this case. This one reportedly created by Lisas family. It's a reward page:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Lisa-Strau...6121073745

it appears to be set up by Lisa's uncle. in decent response and contrast to the sordid, self-serving and salacious other pages out there.

[sharit]

Haven't heard much from J's mom for a couple days....the one that encouraged Tiff to answer questions..., the one that has been very supportive of Maytee on FB, etc. wonder where she went?

:O MIND READER!!! :O lol