Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[Duchess]

controversy is welcome at Mock. encouraged in fact.

I love you.

[NightOwl]

shitstorm, welcome back! I wondered where you were - the place hasn't been the same with you gone and also gone is Tiki did you know? Tiki was very cheeky but, I miss her too.

IMO (and I will eat crow and apologize if wrong), she set up this up - not just for money that she thought was in some non-existent safe, but out of seething jealousy of Lisa and her family. Johnny finally broke free from the looney bin and she resented it and sought her twisted revenge.

I've got the crow plucked and frozen ready to go how would you like it cooked roasted or pan fried LOL!

Merry Christmas!

[pplrcrazy]

I'm not sure if Maytee is just that stupid to act out in court knowing it could cause her ass to be tossed out like yesterdays garbage, or if she is in just a panic mode of being caught up in this mess that she doesn't know how to act. IMO I have always had a little thought that she has been involved in this from day one, because all of her protesting on FB about TW and AG and ofcourse how she acted the very first night on the phone with the police. I would NOT be surprised if some where down the line, her name is brought in to this other than just her being Johnny's mom and finding her son dead. Her mouth never stops... She needs all attention or like I stated above, she's in panic mode and doesn't know how to act.

Oh and yeah, I'm back lol... I have checked in very few times in the past couple of weeks but since I have, I am very excited that we have people on here that are sitting in on this case. If I were closer to OH I would love to be there myself!

[blueberryhill]

I also would like to thank LC for all the research you have done and keeping this case alive. They were so young and
details of murder were so heartbreaking. I remember walking by the TV and Nancy Grace was talking about the story and it caught my attention... I later looked for more details, but there were none, not even on Nancy Grace and she usually over reports everything . I have always been fascinated by true crime and used to real all of the paperbooks published. I have so enjoyed reading these posts over the last year so thanks again. You are right there with links and pics. A friend once suggested i might have been a serial killer in a previous life, however, i like to think i was the dectective trying to solve the case. I am fascinated by human behavior and think that is why i went into mental health
field.

[NightOwl]

Oh and yeah, I'm back lol... I have checked in very few times in the past couple of weeks but since I have, I am very excited that we have people on here that are sitting in on this case. If I were closer to OH I would love to be there myself!

Seasons Greetings! nice to see you back!

[Lady Cop]

court today, maytee was not present.

Williams signed the waiver to have trial set today. Jury selection is set for May 29^th and trial set to begin June 4^th. He appears again on Jan 11^th to discuss DNA evidence motion which has been filed.

[koko]

court today, maytee was not present.

was the rest of the Clarke family (those who're regularly there anyway) present?

not important, jw

[Sterling]

court today, maytee was not present.

Williams signed the waiver to have trial set today. Jury selection is set for May 29^th and trial set to begin June 4^th. He appears again on Jan 11^th to discuss DNA evidence motion which has been filed.

Separate trials for defendants Williams and Pettaway, yes?

[Lady Cop]

court today, maytee was not present.

Williams signed the waiver to have trial set today. Jury selection is set for May 29^th and trial set to begin June 4^th. He appears again on Jan 11^th to discuss DNA evidence motion which has been filed.

Separate trials for defendants Williams and Pettaway, yes?

it seems so. different judges also. waiting to see if one folds before then. their defense attnys. probably do not want to try them together if one will blame the other.

[pplrcrazy]

court today, maytee was not present.

Williams signed the waiver to have trial set today. Jury selection is set for May 29^th and trial set to begin June 4^th. He appears again on Jan 11^th to discuss DNA evidence motion which has been filed.

Separate trials for defendants Williams and Pettaway, yes?

it seems so. different judges also. waiting to see if one folds before then. their defense attnys. probably do not want to try them together if one will blame the other.

I believe that is why they are having seperate court dates, because they are gonna roll on each other. When I was a teenager I knew these 2 guys who had gotten in trouble together fighting and they had seperate dates because one asked for it and he blamed the other guy..

[imsuchawildflower]

Talk about dropping a bomb...
thank you for posting those emails...
The 911 conversations have always stuck in my gut
for some reason. Its as if she is laying a foundation
etc for "the story". As if methodically planting
this tid bit here and this tid bit there. I went back
and listened to them time and again. I certainly hear
nuances and wording that I didnt notice earlier
in the case.
And in the light of what we know about this case
to be true, some of the reliable speculations
being bantered about, reactions and behaviors....
the 911 calls certainly are telling now.
When you dont know for sure what is going to be
found in that house, dont know whats going on,
how do you speculate that much? How do you
have the presence of mind to block someone in,
to give so much detail...its suspect.
Heart trouble and I need an ambulance, my ass.
I think she decided to change her strategy mid-lie.

[Adub]

Here is the latest docket entry on Madrid.

12/14/2011
◦Case Set For A Prelim-Exam On 01/04/2012 At 10:00 Am

◦Deft To Be Held At: Lucas Co , By Smc
Deft Held , Bond $ 500,000.00, Total 500,000.00, 10%? N
No 10 % No Property Bond

◦Doyle Cont To 2/8/2012 -Tmr


So Williams wants his statements made while in custody suppressed. He will probably win that motion even though he was given his Miranda warning.

There was one entry in the latest discovery dump that has me puzzled. Something about a "proffer" letter from Travis Jones.
Not sure what that means.

[NightOwl]

Adub, could this be the same Travis Jones?


Jones murder charge dismissed
Updated: Friday, 18 Feb 2011, 6:55 PM EST
Published : Friday, 18 Feb 2011, 3:25 PM EST

TOLEDO, Ohio (WUPW) - Toledo police have dismissed the charge of murder against Travis Jones, 22, of Toledo, in the Feb. 14 homicide of Scott Fitzgerald Harris, who was found in an alley on Stillman Street in Toledo.

http://www.foxtoledo.com/dpp/news/local/...-dismissed

[Lady Cop]

i wanted to document an earlier comment of mine. this is approx. 10 years old, Johnny would have been about 12 years old.

i think being a lookout and criminal 'mastermind' for B&Es is OK with religious beliefs.

this was in the blade and sent to me by someone there.
i do not know whether the 'williams' is related to williams charged in the murder cases.

[NightOwl]

I'm not 100% sure if this is the same Travis Jones on the Discovery Paper mentioned above but, he sure sounds like another bad stick to me!

Channel 13 News
Bond set for BP robbery suspect


Posted: Oct 04, 2011 6:16 AM EDT
Updated: Oct 11, 2011 6:18 AM EDT
The man suspected of robbing an area BP faced a judge this morning.

Travis Jones, 22, was arraigned on aggravated robbery charges.

Police say Jones tried to hold up the BP gas station at Monroe and Douglas, but took off when the clerk refused to give him the money.

According to investigators, Jones also tried to rob a 7-11 on Upton late Monday night.

A judge set Jones' bond at $165,000. He's currently behind bars at the Lucas County jail.


TMC-Clerk
10/04/2011 Affidavit Filed 10/04/2011 12:37. Warrant returned, service made. Defendant arrested and booked into Lucas County Corrections Center on 10/04/2011 12:30, Booking Number LCCC0775712. Scheduled for arraignment on 10/05/2011 09:00 in court room 3. Clerk entry
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10/05/2011 Defendant requests a public defender. JUDGE GOULDING
10/05/2011 Defendant found indigent by Court and public defender assigned. JUDGE GOULDING
10/05/2011 Defendant present with attorney DEFENDER, PUBLIC , #9999. JUDGE GOULDING
10/05/2011 At request of the Defendant, preliminary hearing set for 10/12/2011 09:00 in courtroom 3. Clerk to notify Officer/Complainant. JUDGE GOULDING
10/05/2011 Bond set at $75,000.00 at no percent. JUDGE GOULDING
10/05/2011 Praecipe filed 10/05/2011 12:01 by Prosecutor. Subpoena issued to VICTIM 10/05/2011 13:20.. Clerk entry
10/12/2011 Bond continued. JUDGE GORMAN
10/12/2011 At the request of prosecutor, case continued to 10/13/2011 09:00 in courtroom 3. JUDGE GORMAN
10/13/2011 Nolle prosequi entered / indictment. JUDGE GORMAN
11/05/2011 Disposition information for this charge has been electronically sent to BCI. Clerk entry

Since he's housed in with Sammy and Cameo maybe he found out a thing or two and thought he'd report it plus it would maybe mean a lesser sentence for himself IMO. If you notice his name was in full not initials!

[Lady Cop]

i'd be shocked if williams and pettaway are housed anywhere near each other, where they can communicate.

[Sterling]

i think being a lookout and criminal 'mastermind' for B&Es is OK with religious beliefs.

A married woman, associating with other men engaged in criminal activity - WHILE YOU HAVE A HUSBAND AND CHILDREN AT HOME - what a self centered, horrid spouse and mother. No wonder she never mentions Big John as one of her loves - she had someone, other than her husband, knocking her bricks. I'll wager she [just like a predator] groomed her babiboi, too. Fucking mother of the year material!

[Lady Cop]

if you read the article details, those were the keystone gang burglars! dumb as stumps!

[Adub]

Since he's housed in with Sammy and Cameo maybe he found out a thing or two and thought he'd report it plus it would maybe mean a lesser sentence for himself IMO. If you notice his name was in full not initials!

And he was locked up back in Feb at the same time that Williams was locked up.

I so want to know who AW is from the discovery.

[NightOwl]

Since he's housed in with Sammy and Cameo maybe he found out a thing or two and thought he'd report it plus it would maybe mean a lesser sentence for himself IMO. If you notice his name was in full not initials!

And he was locked up back in Feb at the same time that Williams was locked up.

I so want to know who AW is from the discovery.

Yes to the above! and is this AW Lisa's very close girlfriend possibly?