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Curiosity-- NASA Mars landing Monday
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(08-06-2012, 01:55 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote:
(08-06-2012, 01:49 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:
(08-06-2012, 01:45 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote:
(08-06-2012, 01:44 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:
(08-06-2012, 01:37 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: I suggest everyone just watch 'Red Planet' and we can save $2.5B.

Or, maybe they'll build a MARS HOTEL & CASINO in Las Vegas based upon what little we know now; people from all over the world will visit and throw away way more than $2.5B on gambling, drinks, and hookers dressed as martians.

Why make science so scientific?

Someone should put you in charge.

You're feisty today.

I might take that challenge, but I'd need consultation from someone who actually enjoys throwing money away, watered-down drinks, and sex-for-pay. Let me know when you're free and we can toss it around, Bill Nye the Science Guy.

Funny, I don't think I've ever actually been drunk while in Vegas. Sure, a cocktail or two for a nice continuous buzz, but I don't like to get falling down drunk.

Never done the sex-for-pay either, or the strip clubs while there.

However, if you'd like some knowledge about sports wagering, I'd love to help.

Well, you're just a wet blanket on all fronts today. So, I'm just gonna keep thinking that it's very cool and exciting that exploration of other planets continues, despite your articulate argument against such frivolous pursuits. 27
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(08-06-2012, 01:59 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Well, you're just a wet blanket on all fronts today. So, I'm just gonna keep thinking that it's very cool and exciting that exploration of other planets continues, despite your articulate argument against such frivolous pursuits. 27

I understand the 'awe' factor of missions to other planets. This is, however, unmanned mission number 5 it appears.

Let's either make it a manned mission, which would be an amazing feat, or let's put our (taxpayer) money into something like cancer research, which, when a cure is found, would TRULY benefit all of mankind.
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#23
(08-06-2012, 02:04 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: let's put our (taxpayer) money into something like cancer research, which, when a cure is found, would TRULY benefit all of mankind.


Certainly not in every case but much of what is killing people cancer wise is what people are shoveling into their mouths on their own accord. There's your cancer research free of charge, sport.
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(08-06-2012, 02:04 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote:
(08-06-2012, 01:59 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Well, you're just a wet blanket on all fronts today. So, I'm just gonna keep thinking that it's very cool and exciting that exploration of other planets continues, despite your articulate argument against such frivolous pursuits. 27

I understand the 'awe' factor of missions to other planets. This is, however, unmanned mission number 5 it appears.

Let's either make it a manned mission, which would be an amazing feat, or let's put our (taxpayer) money into something like cancer research, which, when a cure is found, would TRULY benefit all of mankind.

I would love to see as much money as possible put into cancer research, believe me.

But, in my opinion only, it's also important to continue research into other possible origins of life and the science of the universe. Not just because of the "awe" factor, but because discoveries about the past can potentially benefit all of mankind in the future.

What if something learned/gathered from Mars exploration helped in cancer research? Longshot, but could happen - who knows? Who knows?
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(08-06-2012, 02:09 PM)Duchess Wrote:
(08-06-2012, 02:04 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: let's put our (taxpayer) money into something like cancer research, which, when a cure is found, would TRULY benefit all of mankind.


Certainly not in every case but much of what is killing people cancer wise is what people are shoveling into their mouths on their own accord. There's your cancer research free of charge, sport.

God, you're fucking brilliant!

What's it like to always be the smartest one in the room?

I'm sure of the thousands of kids to succumb to cancer, most of them ate too many Hostess pastries, and that's why they're dead.

Dumbasses.
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(08-06-2012, 02:11 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: What if something learned/gathered from Mars exploration helped in cancer research? Longshot, but could happen - who knows? Who knows?

Really, really, really, really, really, reaching.
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(08-06-2012, 02:18 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote:
(08-06-2012, 02:11 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: What if something learned/gathered from Mars exploration helped in cancer research? Longshot, but could happen - who knows? Who knows?

Really, really, really, really, really, reaching.

Yes, it always is when you're exploring the UNKNOWN. That's the point of exploration.

But, I'm not gonna argue you with you about the importance of scientific research and exploration. Different levels of interest and opinion, meh.

I support your advocating for greater research into cancer and terminal disease, btw.
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(08-06-2012, 02:16 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: I'm sure of the thousands of kids to succumb to cancer, most of them ate too many Hostess pastries, and that's why they're dead.

Dumbasses.


Keep feeding your kids meat every night that's pumped full of hormones & other injectables & make sure they eat their veggies laced with all those lovely pesticides. I might be sorry to say I told you so but I doubt it. Smiley_emoticons_smile
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Not to mention that most medical research is not used to find cures at all but to develop highly profitable designer "maintenance meds" that make billions for the pharmaceutical companies but don't actually cure a damn thing. Self sustaining machine built on the pity of the weak minded.
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(08-06-2012, 02:27 PM)Duchess Wrote:
(08-06-2012, 02:16 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: I'm sure of the thousands of kids to succumb to cancer, most of them ate too many Hostess pastries, and that's why they're dead.

Dumbasses.


Keep feeding your kids meat every night that's pumped full of hormones & other injectables & make sure they eat their veggies laced with all those lovely pesticides. I might be sorry to say I told you so but I doubt it. Smiley_emoticons_smile

No biggie.

You won't actually care until it affects you.

Hope you're at least able to blame yourself (and not just shitty luck) for something you've ingested during your lifetime.

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(08-06-2012, 02:32 PM)Donovan Wrote: Self sustaining machine built on the pity of the weak minded.

Wow.

If you were an expert in this field I might lend some credence to your statement.

But, you're not.

So I won't.
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One doesn't have to be an expert to know that he's right. You are living an illusion if you think those big drug companies want to find a cure for any damn thing.
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(08-06-2012, 02:37 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote:
(08-06-2012, 02:32 PM)Donovan Wrote: Self sustaining machine built on the pity of the weak minded.

Wow.

If you were an expert in this field I might lend some credence to your statement.

But, you're not.

So I won't.

I rest my case.
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#34
Many people were not in favor of sailing to the edge of the earth a few hundred years ago either. After all, conventional wisdom was that the planet was flat and there was nothing to see.

Besides, the money could be better spent on things like alchemy and cathedral building.
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(08-06-2012, 02:55 PM)Jimbone Wrote: Many people were not in favor of sailing to the edge of the earth a few hundred years ago either. After all, conventional wisdom was that the planet was flat and there was nothing to see.

Besides, the money could be better spent on things like alchemy and cathedral building.

Yes.

Interesting NOVA piece at link about the top 7 accidental medical discoveries; among them the most important ones in saving and prolonging human life. Some originating from ocean exploration.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/body/accide...eries.html

Closing paragraph snip (this is also my personal belief):

Keep that mind open

For all you would-be Nobel Prize-winners, remember the one trait that tied all these lucky strikers together: openmindedness. As the American physicist Joseph Henry once noted, "The seeds of great discoveries are constantly floating around us, but they only take root in minds well prepared to receive them."
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(08-06-2012, 03:04 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Yes.

Interesting NOVA piece at link about the top 7 accidental medical discoveries; among them the most important ones in saving and prolonging human life. Some originating from ocean exploration.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/body/accide...eries.html

Closing paragraph snip (this is also my personal belief):

Keep that mind open

For all you would-be Nobel Prize-winners, remember the one trait that tied all these lucky strikers together: openmindedness. As the American physicist Joseph Henry once noted, "The seeds of great discoveries are constantly floating around us, but they only take root in minds well prepared to receive them."

Thanks for sharing - very good read.
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(08-06-2012, 02:55 PM)Jimbone Wrote: Many people were not in favor of sailing to the edge of the earth a few hundred years ago either. After all, conventional wisdom was that the planet was flat and there was nothing to see.

Besides, the money could be better spent on things like alchemy and cathedral building.

Is Mars habitable for humans as it is right now?

No, you say?

Then what's the big fucking point of going there, other than we may find a cure for cancer, of course?

You 'deep' thinkers kill me...
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#38
(08-06-2012, 02:41 PM)Donovan Wrote:
(08-06-2012, 02:37 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote:
(08-06-2012, 02:32 PM)Donovan Wrote: Self sustaining machine built on the pity of the weak minded.

Wow.

If you were an expert in this field I might lend some credence to your statement.

But, you're not.

So I won't.

I rest my case.

You don't think I realize some money has to go to find meds that make treatment somewhat tolerable for the cancer patient?

For fucks sake Dono. Any $$$ though that make it through to the actual scientists who are trying to find a way to beat cancer is a victory to me.

Great case you made.

Bravo.
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thousands gathered in Times Square to watch landing.
i love this pic hah
my family was greatly involved with NASA and space program from its very beginning...it was once a great source of pride for Americans.
and i appreciate the genius of the engineers and scientists.
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#40
(08-06-2012, 04:05 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: Is Mars habitable for humans as it is right now?

No, you say?

Then what's the big fucking point of going there, other than we may find a cure for cancer, of course?

You 'deep' thinkers kill me...

Way to exaggerate out of context a point that was clearly stated as a "longshot" only to demonstrate that your desire for a yet unknown cure doesn't necessarily have to be mutually exclusive to planetary research.

I wouldn't categorize myself as a deep thinker; just an average one with an open mind. I don't care if you don't support space exploration. But, you sound like a close-minded blowhard when you condemn others who do as if there are two groups, those who want to find a cure for cancer vs. those who support planetary and other scientific research. Ridiculous.

Should we not be studying archeology and historic cultures either? I mean, shit, that's the past. Those people are dead. What could it possibly matter?

You don't have to be a deep thinker or someone who's opposed to increased funding for cancer research to come up with some valid answers to that question or to believe that a deeper understanding of our universe is key to progress (always has been) and may hold answers to some of today's mysteries.

So, let me clarify, again. I think it's unlikely that anything found on Mars will assist in cancer research, but it's certainly not impossible. Still, I support continued research of both.
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