Could you rob an amored truck (or shoot up a movie theater)?

[username]

I don't see conspiracies behind any of these terrible things that happen, I see fucked up people doing fucked up things, nothing more.

I'm with you. Some people claim the Pentagon was never hit on ⁹⁄₁₁ or some such shit. How many minds would you have to control to fake that?

Plus if there were government "entities" arranging mass murders to pimp gun control, how many people would need to be involved in operations like that (or aware of them) who were ALL willing to keep quiet? I can believe in mind control but the idea that there's a large group of individuals involved domestically to advance gun control sounds like a reach. Gun control is largely dead anyway. Even Obama isn't talking about it despite the recent spike in violence.

With regards to NY, I don't think the time between when the police said they didn't know who shot the bystanders to the time when they acknowledged it was their officers was excessive. Granted they fired more rounds than they probably needed to but I think that was an overreaction/spontaneous thing.

[Riotgear]

I don't see conspiracies behind any of these terrible things that happen, I see fucked up people doing fucked up things, nothing more.

I'm with you. Some people claim the Pentagon was never hit on ⁹⁄₁₁ or some such shit. How many minds would you have to control to fake that?

No no no. The Pentagon was hit. It just wasn't hit by a plane.

[username]

I don't see conspiracies behind any of these terrible things that happen, I see fucked up people doing fucked up things, nothing more.

I'm with you. Some people claim the Pentagon was never hit on ⁹⁄₁₁ or some such shit. How many minds would you have to control to fake that?

No no no. The Pentagon was hit. It just wasn't hit by a plane.

Oops. Did I mess up the conspiracy theory? My bad.

[Ilyanna]

Mess up? More like deliberately trying to obfuscate the matter, methinks. Are you working for the government, by chance?!?

[HairOfTheDog]

I think Joker Holmes acted alone, and certainly Johnson did at the Empire State Building.

I don't think there was any nefarious intent by the NYPD in the shooting at the Empire State Building, at all. Some analysts say the number of bullets fired at Johson was what they'd expect given the accuracy rates of LEOs in those circumstances. Others say it was excessive and sloppy given that Johnson only pulled his gun when approached by LE and one of the officers was in very close range. Either the press or NYPD got it wrong in some of the early reporting by stating and implying that Johnson had committed a mass shooting, intentionally or not. Those facts should be checked before print and air, but we see it all the time in the press when something big goes down. Sigh.

I don't believe much in conspiracies in these types of matters either, but open to hearing out anyone's theories. The cases of Holmes and Johnson (as individuals acting alone) seem clear cut to me, but I do wanna hear more about Holmes's motivation and how he got so many deliveries without detection, along with the necessity for 16 shots at Johnson... Not because I think a conspiracy is likely, but because some of the facts are missing (to the public) at this time.

[shitstorm]

I don't see conspiracies behind any of these terrible things that happen, I see fucked up people doing fucked up things, nothing more.

Did you watch the videos that I posted in the OP? On what what do you base your conclusion that these types of events are just "fucked up people doing fucked up things"?

Not only is it possible to make a mind controlled assassin, it's not hard. PLEASE, watch this and then think again about your statement:

[Duchess]

I absolutely agree that there are those who are easily controlled. Those people are lacking in some fashion, the biggest being they are weak minded. They normally possess a very low IQ & their self esteem/confidence is non-existent. Then you have the religious fanatics who willingly blowup themselves & others in the name of Allah. All of these people are flawed mentally, I don't see it as being a conspiracy.