Foxglove sticking it to the government

[LuMPyPussy]

Are you suggesting that I exaggerate? OP and I are the only ones that have recenly been banned at 24.

And of coursethat has nothing to do with the recent troll campaings you both engaged in. It was because I am a closet religious conservative Republican and I want toprotect 3 or 4 internet Republicans, even though I openly debate and disagree with them.

"Trolling" is debatable, at least in my case. I was told to put a plastic bag over my head and die, yet I didn't see anyone call Fox a troll for posting that. It's subjective, apparently.

[Duchess]

I was told to put a plastic bag over my head and die

OMG...Sounds just likethe Demented One.

[SyberBitch]

Instead of taking heresay for "it" why not go read for yourself instead?

I've been tempted, but I fear that if I DID go read it for myself, I would be so annoyed with the idiots over there, I would quickly become 'banned' myself. I've seen enough 'direct quotes' from over there that I know I wouldn't be able to keep my virtual mouth shut.

[SyberBitch]

Are you suggesting that I exaggerate? OP and I are the only ones that have recenly been banned at 24.

And of coursethat has nothing to do with the recent troll campaings you both engaged in. It was because I am a closet religious conservative Republican and I want toprotect 3 or 4 internet Republicans, even though I openly debate and disagree with them.

"Trolling" is debatable, at least in my case. I was told to put a plastic bag over my head and die, yet I didn't see anyone call Fox a troll for posting that. It's subjective, apparently.

And that type of thing would have me banned pretty quickly as I wouldn't be able to keep from pointing out the hypocrisy.

[The Antagonist]

Instead of taking heresay for "it" why not go read for yourself instead?

I've been tempted, but I fear that if I DID go read it for myself, I would be so annoyed with the idiots over there, I would quickly become 'banned' myself. I've seen enough 'direct quotes' from over there that I know I wouldn't be able to keep my virtual mouth shut.

Quotes from part of one post in a whole topic isn't enough to give a fair view on the conversation.

Taking one quote from one post in a topic and making a conclusion they are [whatever] because someone says so is pretty 'sheeple' like in itself.

I dunno, I like to debate fairly instead of going by just one angry persons view of the truth. ::dunno::

YOU are intelligent enough to debate and stay on topic. I don't see you as going in there to derail and generally cause trouble.

There is a difference between trolling and debating/posting/disagreeing.

Lumpy, cut the crap. If I were to say you specifically you would clearly see me say so. I am not talking only the present but past as well.

[SyberBitch]

Instead of taking heresay for "it" why not go read for yourself instead?

I've been tempted, but I fear that if I DID go read it for myself, I would be so annoyed with the idiots over there, I would quickly become 'banned' myself. I've seen enough 'direct quotes' from over there that I know I wouldn't be able to keep my virtual mouth shut.

Quotes from part of one post in a whole topic isn't enough to give a fair view on the conversation.

Taking one quote from one post in a topic and making a conclusion they are [whatever] because someone says so is pretty 'sheeple' like in itself.

I haven't seen much of the rest of 24, but I did pop over and look at that new conservative forum they started and the stuff I read there made my hair curl.

I CAN debate intelligently, but that become difficult or impossible when the person you're debating can't string a coherent sentence together without resulting to emotional tripe and bible quotes. I fear it would be a lost cause.

[LuMPyPussy]

Lumpy, cut the crap. If I were to say you specifically you would clearly see me say so. I am not talking only the present but past as well.

Then who were you referring to when you wrote this:

Top it off OP and some others like to exaggerate just a tad for colorful effect here.

[The Antagonist]

Lumpy, I was generalizing trying not to make it so that OP was being singled out by me. That's it. I'm not going to take the time and search the whole forum to see what others specifically did. Feel free to waste your day doing so.

Syber, while I agree there are many things they say that I do not agree with and agree with you that they do come off as way over the top, like you - I generally stay away.

My whole point is the obsession with it here. OP more than anyone else has started topic after topic about what they're saying there because he wants' to openly bash them without a stifled tongue. But that's not debate. He wants debate with them but can't do it within the means of Frank's rules on 24.

He CAN start up a liberal leaning forum there in hopes they (and they probably would) join in some debates. His forum. His rules. His language filter (or not). Hell, anyone can do that.

Bashing for the sake of bashing is one thing but taking things out of context to come off as if you're telling the context of the whole conversation is another.

There are other places on the internet full of fun stuff to bash too. The whole inability to stay free of 24 and treat mock as a separate entity is boring enough.

The same people that are complained about have had their share of being banned there too for the same reasons of trolling and rule breaking.

[LuMPyPussy]

Lumpy, I was generalizing trying not to make it so that OP was being singled out by me. That's it. I'm not going to take the time and search the whole forum to see what others specifically did. Feel free to waste your day doing so.

Syber, while I agree there are many things they say that I do not agree with and agree with you that they do come off as way over the top, like you - I generally stay away.

My whole point is the obsession with it here. OP more than anyone else has started topic after topic about what they're saying there because he wants' to openly bash them without a stifled tongue. But that's not debate. He wants debate with them but can't do it within the means of Frank's rules on 24.

He CAN start up a liberal leaning forum there in hopes they (and they probably would) join in some debates. His forum. His rules. His language filter (or not). Hell, anyone can do that.

Bashing for the sake of bashing is one thing but taking things out of context to come off as if you're telling the context of the whole conversation is another.

There are other places on the internet full of fun stuff to bash too. The whole inability to stay free of 24 and treat mock as a separate entity is boring enough.

The same people that are complained about have had their share of being banned there too for the same reasons of trolling and rule breaking.

Oh please, doyou really think anyone in or out of this forum falls for yourclumsy insinuations? You probably stumble on dust when you're walking across an empty room, don't you. ::rollseyes::

And you might want to take a peek at the 'other place'... one of the unholy triumvirate started a thread to bash a member here. I doubt he even gets a stern talking to for it when anyone else would be automatically banned.

Pompous bitch.

[The Antagonist]

Yes, now that I've picked up the filth from falling over dust bunnies, the whole point I'm making is it's OLD.

What they say bothers you all so ignore it. Is that so hard? As for seeing the other post about bashing someone here, no I did not see it because I do NOT visit every forum on 24. Most are collapsed and only visit ones I feel like at the moment when I do go there. Like the cars, mine and occasionally librty's.

If they did that (show me please?) then they would be just as wrong. I am not sticking up for what they say, you don't seem to realize that. You also seem to be a little sensitive today which you shouldn't be. You seem to think I'm singling you out for some reason.

I'm not trying to come off as pompous but fine, go on and think so. I'm only speaking in general terms but you continue to try to pigeon-hole me into specifics.

[The Antagonist]

Never mind... I found it.

[Duchess]

I'd bet my bank account that any one of them will NEVER come here to spar with any member of Mock...Number one, they simply don't have the balls but, will disguise that under, "they are juvenile, I'm not stooping to their level" & there is no protection here for them..They would never be able to hold their own in here, no way, no how, I sincerely believe that.

I'd be happy to eat those words tho if they would choose to enter Mock. ::bigg::