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I've seen what those monsters do to children too. They defend it by saying it's been done to theirs. Before all this bs began there was a Christian in Baghdad who had a following, after ISIS got their power they found the Christian's caretaker and cut his little boy in half in front of him because he wouldn't forsake his faith. I saw a father holding his little girl's body, I knew it was a girl because she was wearing an old fashioned pinafore dress, she had been beheaded. They justify all of this.
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(02-03-2015, 03:27 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Terrible way to die.
Jordan kept pushing IS to show proof of life before they'd release Sajida al-Rishawi. I bet al-Kaseasbeh was, in fact, dead before then. Fuckers.
RIP.
You would have won that bet from what I have read in news reports here today. They're saying that the execution happened as early as January 3.
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(02-03-2015, 06:08 PM)FAHQTOO Wrote: (02-03-2015, 05:37 PM)Duchess Wrote: (02-03-2015, 05:32 PM)FAHQTOO Wrote: Burned alive...jesus christ...my worst nightmare. Just imagine what they'll come up with next for the shock factor. It's horrible. I saw the headline and went looking for information, which was bad enough when I found it but then I had to go look for video and/or pix. Obviously I found some pix but then I'm all weepy and stuff and muttering like a lunatic. I want them all to die. I don't know what we are waiting for. I don't care if they drop the biggest bomb of all. Dooooo iiiiiit.
I would never be able to watch the video. I watched one beheading and that was more than enough for me.
Nothing will change while O is in the WH.
We've been bombing the shit outta IS in Iraq for 6 months and in Syria since the end of last year and done some major damage, by all accounts.
But, there are a lot of them and many are in civilian areas. We (the US and coalition forces) don't want to kill the people who are fighting against IS or just trying to live peacefully in Iraq and Syria.
I hope the fuckers are only hobbling in two years time, but they might still be around and doing anything and everything to remain relevant, replenish recruits, and make bank. Maybe whoever is in the White House next will be willing to send ground troops. Personally, I hate the idea of sending soldiers into combat over there again, but I could see it happening.
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(02-03-2015, 06:37 AM)Mohammed Wrote: Right, so nobody gives a fuck about my obviously fascinating conspiracy theory that put 3 million French on the street but some weird shit flirting among aged folks? Fuck yeah!
Got to love America!
Sorry, Mo! Maggs is getting a little absent minded lately and doesn't realize where he is..Talk slow and enunicate so he can understand you...
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Jordan's not screwing around anymore.
Within 22 minutes of the video release of their fighter pilot being burned alive, Jordan started moving its IS-associated prisoners to the execution jail in the south of the country.
Jordan has declared that it will be executing all six prisoners convicted of association with ISIS, including the witch Sajida al-Rishawi, at dawn today (about 4.40am GMT).
Tonight, ^King Abdullah of Jordan arrived at the White House for a hastily-arranged meeting with U.S President Barack Obama, following the news of the barbaric murder.
President Obama stated that the U.S. would 'redouble the vigilance and determination on the part of our global coalition to make sure they are degraded and ultimately defeated,' adding that the footage serves to indicate that 'whatever ideology they are operating out of is bankrupt.'
Prime Minister David Cameron also condemned the 'sickening murder', but said it would only 'strengthen our resolve'.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...z3QjjWwWGp
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(02-03-2015, 09:47 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Jordan's not screwing around anymore.
Within 22 minutes of the video release of their fighter pilot being burned alive, Jordan started moving its IS-associated prisoners to the execution jail in the south of the country.
I can't find it now, but I read something in the last week where Jordan claimed it would execute any ISIS prisoners in it's custody if the pilot was executed. I don't remember if I read it in a credible source or not..
But, I also read today that the jail these prisoners are being moved to is renowned in Jordan for carrying out executions. I wonder if it's sabre rattling, coincidence or if they are going to make good on that promise.
If they did, I would have thought it may be considered a war crime i.e. executing prisoners in custody, but I don't know enough about the intricacies of the Geneva Convention to pass firm comment on that. With ISIS not being a recognised State or Country, the GC may not even cover it for all I know.
I don't see how executing the prisoners will affect ISIS anyway; they don't give a fuck if they get them back or not. If they did, they wouldn't have murdered the pilot a month ago.
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(02-03-2015, 05:35 PM)FAHQTOO Wrote: (02-03-2015, 05:32 PM)FAHQTOO Wrote: (02-03-2015, 02:39 PM)Duchess Wrote: [size=medium][i]
ISIS is claiming they have killed the Jordanian pilot. They didn't behead him. There is video of him in a cage being burned alive. I nver thought there could be something worse than their gruesome beheadings. This is worse.
It should be clear to the whole world by now that these brutal, ruthless fuckers need to be taken out. It's not like they're discriminating against other countries and only killing Americans.
It's time for the world to come together against these murderers...it might be time for WWlll. Take them out like we did Hitler. And when we're done with them...Hamas, and all the other terrorists groups that I can't even spell.
Burned alive...jesus christ...my worst nightmare. Just imagine what they'll come up with next for the shock factor.
One thing is for sure...nothing will get done for the next 2 years with the current clown running the country. We'll have to wait for 2 years until we get some balls back in the WH...whoevers balls they might be.
Yes. Like we intervened in Rwanda and have taken military action against Boko Haram? Are you saying that the US should be the world police? Because there are horrific things occurring all over the map. Matter of fact, just south of the border in Mexico...
People say "it's not our problem" out of one side of their mouths and simultaneously blame the administration for not doing enough. Damn joke. You want boots on the ground in Syria/Iraq, FQ? How about Africa and Mexico while we're at it. Huh?
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(02-03-2015, 10:57 PM)crash Wrote: But, I also read today that the jail these prisoners are being moved to is renowned in Jordan for carrying out executions. I wonder if it's sabre rattling, coincidence or if they are going to make good on that promise.
If they did, I would have thought it may be considered a war crime i.e. executing prisoners in custody, but I don't know enough about the intricacies of the Geneva Convention to pass firm comment on that. With ISIS not being a recognised State or Country, the GC may not even cover it for all I know.
I don't see how executing the prisoners will affect ISIS anyway; they don't give a fuck if they get them back or not. If they did, they wouldn't have murdered the pilot a month ago.
I'm not sure either, interesting point.
There is no declared war on IS, as far as I know. And, all of the prisoners were already tried for their crimes, convicted, and sentenced to death under Jordanian law. It's my understanding that Jordan is expediting the death sentences in retaliation for the murder of their fallen pilot.
I believe that Jordan will follow through and won't be in violation of the Geneva Convention. (If they don't, I think it will because they are pushed to hold off by coalition allies for various reasons.)
Then again, I didn't think Jordan would seriously entertain negotiating with IS to trade a convicted mass murderer for a hostage in the first place, and it appears they did just that. So, nothing will surprise me.
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Yes. Like we intervened in Rwanda and have taken military action against Boko Haram? Are you saying that the US should be the world police? Because there are horrific things occurring all over the map. Matter of fact, just south of the border in Mexico...
People say "it's not our problem" out of one side of their mouths and simultaneously blame the administration for not doing enough. Damn joke. You want boots on the ground in Syria/Iraq, FQ? How about Africa and Mexico while we're at it. Huh?
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Whatever the hell we're doing obviously isn't enough.
I don't know what you're yapping about "not our problem". I have yet to hear from anyone that ISIS isn't our problem. ISIS is the whole worlds biggest problem right now. Just think of all the shit boiling on the backburner...Russia/Ukraine, Iran Nukes, Israel/Palistine and on and on. ISIS is at the top of the news everyday.
There are plenty of things we don't need to be involved with...this certainly isn't one of them.
I don't really want boots on the ground, but that's what it's going to take. If your president wouldn't have taken ALL troops out of Iraq, we wouldn't be having this conversation...and maybe some hostages might have kept their heads...and maybe someone wouldn't have been burned alive for the whole world to see.
I prefer a carpet bomb at this point.
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Since Iraq has devolved back in to a shit hole, was our presence their effective? And then there's Libya.
I agree that ISIL is evil incarnate but there are other equally brutal groups out there that, if we're going to wage war on one, also deserve our attention. One reason ISIL garners so much desire for vengeance is their ability to create shocking, horrifying videos. And their tweets.
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I dunno, that mexican website where all the people were headless and shit was pretty ordinary. Maybe it's because the Mexicans aren't muslim? Or maybe because there's already that many of them stateside that a war on Mexico might backfire?
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(02-03-2015, 11:53 PM)FAHQTOO Wrote: I don't really want boots on the ground, but that's what it's going to take. If your president wouldn't have taken ALL troops out of Iraq, we wouldn't be having this conversation...and maybe some hostages might have kept their heads...and maybe someone wouldn't have been burned alive for the whole world to see.
I prefer a carpet bomb at this point.
You think? I believe that it was YOUR President who started this whole shit by hanging his former Ex Buddy Saddam and thereby creating a large bunch of pissed off Military guys by either totally ignoring or punishing them. IS didn't happen in a year or two but took a large amount of time to get where it is now with all their massive funds, weapons and logistical knowledge of the area.
Sometimes I really do wonder who is all behind IS. The people way on top of it and not those foot soldiers let loose for general entertainment.
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Isn't a large part of their military leadership ex Saddam high ranking officers? I tend to agree; that (the invasion of Iraq that turned out so well) really did start the heads rolling it seems.
The top, top leaders of ISIL? I wonder too.
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Jordan's Vows
Jordan's King Abdullah vowed a "relentless" war against Islamic State on their own territory on Wednesday in response to a video published by the hard-line group showing a captured Jordanian pilot being burned alive in a cage.
Jordan hanged two Iraqi jihadists, one a woman, on Wednesday and vowed to intensify military action against Islamic State. (HOTD: Don't know much about the other 4 convicts who were reportedly moved to the execution jail.)
"We are waging this war to protect our faith, our values and human principles and our war for their sake will be relentless and will hit them in their own ground," state television quoted the king as saying during a security meeting.
Jordan, which is part of the U.S.-led alliance against Islamic State, had promised an "earth-shaking response" to the killing of its pilot, Mouath al-Kasaesbeh, who was captured in December when his F-16 warplane crashed over northeastern Syria.
Government spokesman Mohammad al-Momani said on Wednesday: "We are talking about a collaborative effort between coalition members to intensify efforts to stop extremism and terrorism to undermine, degrade and eventually finish Daesh." Daesh is used as a derogatory Arabic term for Islamic State.
More: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/0...XE20150204
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Participation in the coalition was not something supported by the majority of Jordanians prior to the execution of their pilot. That may be changing now.
Included in the the video of the pilot's execution is footage of Syrian civilians allegedly hit by coalition airstrikes -- an attempt to justify the execution and attract more disgruntled Muslims to join IS's ranks.
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Go Jordan!!! While the pilot's death was horrific, I think defeating/reducing ISIL's "popularity" (for lack of a better term) will require righteous Muslim's getting pissed off at the organization (as Maggot mentioned earlier in this thread). I think ISIL screwed up big this time. Especially since Jordan's king is considered a descendant of the prophet. They fucked with the wrong country.
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US hits AQAP in Yemen
A senior cleric for al Qaeda of the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) in Yemen --the group claiming responsibility for the Charlie Hebdo attacks in France -- was killed along with three other people in a drone strike on their vehicle January 31 in Yemen, al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula said in a statement released Thursday.
The cleric, ^ Harith bin Ghazi al-Nadhari, was killed in Yemen's south-central Shabwa province, AQAP said. Al-Nadhari made headlines in November when he inserted himself into a rivalry between al Qaeda and ISIS, or the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria. He blamed ISIS for causing dissent amongst jihadists.
The strike would be a further indication that a U.S.-led drone strike program is continuing following a pause during political upheaval in the majority Sunni Muslim nation.
The United States has long conducted drone strikes against AQAP targets under the Obama administration. But the New America Foundation, which tracks the strikes, says there was a nearly two-month pause in the strikes in late 2014 and early 2015 as Shiite Muslim Houthi rebels moved against Yemen's U.S.-backed government.
Story: http://edition.cnn.com/2015/02/05/world/...index.html
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Jordan strikes IS in Syria
Two days after news emerged that ISIS had burned a captive Jordanian pilot to death, the Middle Eastern nation hit back with airstrikes targeting the terror group -- following through on its vow of "earthshaking retaliation."
Jordanian fighter jets returned from their mission and flew over the home of the slain 27-year-old pilot, Lt. Moath al-Kasasbeh, in the village of Ay in Karak governorate. King Abdullah II, there to offer his condolences to al-Kasasbeh's family, pointed out the fighter jets overhead as proof that Jordan was responding with force, according to the executed pilot's father.
The father, Safi al-Kasasbeh, told CNN that the king promised him that Jordan would avenge his son's death and bombard ISIS' de facto capital of Raqqa in Syria. On Thursday, Safi al-Kasasbeh said he'd been told by the king that 30 Jordanian fighter jets had participated in the strikes.
Story: http://edition.cnn.com/2015/02/05/world/...index.html
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I have no way of knowing if this is true but I read that even al Qaeda was horrified by what was done to that pilot.
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Ya know,,,,,,,,,,,The Christians did tons of damage 4-500 years ago right?
President Barack Obama stirred outraged with his speech at the National Prayer Breakfast Thursday, comparing the atrocities committed by ISIS to those of Christians "in the name of Christ."
"Unless we get on our high horse and think that this is unique to some other place, remember that during the Crusades and Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ," Obama said. "In our home country, slavery and Jim Crow all too often was justified in the name of Christ."
"So it is not unique to one group or one religion," Obama said. "There is a tendency in us, a simple tendency that can pervert and distort our faith."
Let us compare the crusades and Inquisition with todays modern terrorist.
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Thank God for automatic weapons. These guys need to be wiped out.
He ain't heavy, he's my brother.
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Obama does nothing but bow to Muslim leaders (look at the pics) and take potshots at his own country.
To compare the Crusades which ended 700+ years ago to today's IS is treasonous. The Crusades were in response to Islamic violence (see a trend?) whereas IS is slaughtering innocents in the name of Mohammed.
In the New Testament you won't find one reference to Jesus telling his followers to kill non-believers. In fact he says "Love your enemy."
However, what does the Koran say on many occasions? You got it: Kill the infidel if he does not become a Muslim.
I hope there's enough outrage in the Muslim world over the killing of the Pilot that they commit 100% to wiping these scum from the face of the earth.
And Obama should be mocked and ridiculed until the end of his presidency for being such a fucking wimp.
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