I MIGHT BE A BIGOT :(

[Maggot]

[aussiefriend]

What do you think of that?

I don't think I looked at her as a woman, I looked at her as a burka & I didn't want that bullshit in my community.

Tolerance is not infinite. I just think they have reached their threshold with you. I totally get it. There have been reports in the news here about parents being arrested for circumcising their female children. Also, this one couple took their child to Indonesia, when they got back they got charged. How bad is that? That is not the Australia I grew up in.

[Duchess]

circumcising their female children.

I have a vague memory of there being a huge outcry over that practice & I thought it had stopped.

[aussiefriend]

circumcising their female children.

I have a vague memory of there being a huge outcry over that practice & I thought it had stopped.

It's gross isn't it? If this is going on in our countries, imagine what it must be like in those countries where this practice is commonplace.

I truly believe when one woman is oppressed, even if it is in another country that you would never catch me in, it still affects us all. It's horrible the way women are treated on this planet.

[Jimbone]

It's horrible the way some women are treated on this planet.

Fixed.

[aussiefriend]

It's horrible the way some women are treated on this planet.

Fixed.

You are missing my point Jim. What happens to 'a' woman in another country, affects all women. That is why we have job/pay inequality and women being degraded and put down in the west. The list goes on and on as to how it affects us.

I guess this is why the abortion issue is such a hot topic. The thing is that women do not want a bunch of men telling them what to do with their bodies. However, that is precisely what is going on. Single mothers have a low social status in our western culture.

[username]

It's horrible the way some women are treated on this planet.

Fixed.

You are missing my point Jim. What happens to 'a' woman in another country, affects all women. That is why we have job/pay inequality and women being degraded and put down in the west. The list goes on and on as to how it affects us.

That's a group victim mentality that I don't ascribe to.

[aussiefriend]

That's a group victim mentality that I don't ascribe to.

Apologies User, I am basing my opinion on research and facts.

[LuciferLynn]

My father is a terrible bigot. He hates niggers and diaperheads. He has a a fake head with a piece of rope on the neck that he hangs in the back window of his car that looks like a diaperhead. We live in a small community and there are quite a few of them here and it makes him crazy. They own gas stations, a hotel and a restaraunt that's since gone out of business. He wont go into any of them. I used to be incredibly intolerant of his mind set but as I get older, I find myself making a sound of derision when I see them. He had an absolute fit one day when he saw a woman in a burka at the market. I admit, I don't want them here. I don't want my town on the news because it was discovered it was the headquarters of a terrorist gang. I don't trust them, that's for sure. When I lived in florid, I worked for one when I worked in a nursing home. His brother was exiled from pakistan. They tried to go over to see their family and he wasn't allowed back in the country bc he was on some list they have of people that once they leave, they can't come back. Since he was always at the home, after they tried to go, the fbi and homeland security crawled all over the place for weeks. I don't like to think I'm a bigot, but on some level I suppose I am.

[Ilyanna]

May I ask something? There seems to be quite a number of folks who refuse to accept muslimic people in their neighborhood due to fear that they might be terrorists. I am not exactly following the news, so excuse me if the answer is obvious, but how many terrorist attacks have there been on American soils since 2001?

[Duchess]

I'm not concerned they are terrorists, not here, terrorists don't choose quiet, little colonial towns. I associate burkas/wrapped heads with the most significant terrorist attack the world has ever seen. Even countries that hate the United States were astounded by it. This is my country, I don't have to welcome those people.

I just proofread that & I sound like such a fuckin' bitch.

[Ilyanna]

Jimbone and LuciferLynn have expressed their concern, and so did a variety of people in other places I frequent

I associate burkas/wrapped heads with the most significant terrorist attack the world has ever seen.

You are entitled to your feelings and thoughts, of course, but imo, that kind of thinking is exactly what terrorists of any kind strive to achieve. So, as far as I can see, the terrorists have won.

[Duchess]

the terrorists have won.

I've known that for a long time in regards to myself. I no longer fly either. It's not safe to fly but I recognize that people weigh the risk.

[Maggot]

They have not w w w won!

[Ilyanna]

@ Duchess
You don't want to put up a fight anymore?
ftr, I do know where you are coming from in this, at least I think I do. It's damn difficult to force myself again and again to not let the current and past events change my view. I guess the only things that keep me struggling is my damn stubbornness and the fact that I have never been treated less than politely (and most often friendly) by any person of muslimic faith I encountered.

[Midwest Spy]

Ily, IMO they haven't won anything yet. The terrorist attacks have created fear and loathing of Islam and all it stands for. Americans are generally pretty tolerant people (a nation of immigrants after all), but what I see from Muslims in MY city, is a people that chooses not to assimilate into our culture and in fact, would like to make MY city conform to THEIR ways.

I don't like having them here and probably never will.

[Duchess]

Terrorists have affected how I view some things. I know & understand how unfair it is to have the view I hold, logically I know I'm a dumbass regarding this and I still can't get passed these feelings.

[krystalshores]

We are entitled to feel however we want about Muslims, whether it be right or wrong.
I do not fear them at all. What was it that Yoda said?
“Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.”
My grandfather said something along those lines to me, as well, after 9/11. I was terrified that the whole country was under attack (which it was). He wasn't afraid and the most important thing he wanted me to understand was to not hate them because that fear and hate can take over your whole life and in the end they would win.
I am in an industry that I work with a lot of foreigners. I have a few really good friends from Iran and Turkey. They are Muslims, but not radical. They do, however, pray every few hours. The friend from Iran, only lived there for a few years while he was young and his family fled to Austria and he and his siblings wound up here going to college. They are the most kind and considerate people I have ever met in my life. I am blessed to know them.

[Duchess]

Her burka mindfucked me.

[Jimbone]

My comments in this thread are aimed at any group that does not want to integrate into the society they have chosen to live in.