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I'm coming to the conclusion that I don't have a true understanding of what that word means to the black community. I know what I've read & heard but how can I take their serious thoughts seriously when it's okay for them to use it but no one else is supposed to. I've heard many arguments regarding that as well as there being a difference between nigga & nigger.
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Nigger is a derogatory word for a black person, it's derived from the word negro and can't be applied to anyone other than a black person. The same way you wouldn't call anyone a chink or spic other than a Chinese or Mexican person for example. Black people adapted it as a word only they can use amongst each other, otherwise it holds the same derogatory context as always.
So if you're not a black person then the appropriate time to use the word nigger is when that black person is behaving like a fucking dick head and there is no better word to call them.
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I get that it's a derogatory word, what I don't get is the "power" of it.
I need a good word for fat assed, fucked up white men who act like a tulip.
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The truth about human nature is sometimes hard to accept. Whatever color you may be equality will never be equal. Accepting the fact that we are different is the first step, no matter how ugly the truth is.
He ain't heavy, he's my brother.
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Speaking of how 'ugly' the truth can really be:
One of my co-workers told another of our co-workers that his face is so ugly that if co-worker #1 ever had his face chewed off by a chimpanzee or otherwise horribly disfigured and co-worker #2's face was offered as a transplant, he'd pass.
Damn!
That's ugly.
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Obama said nigger but those reporting it are calling it the N word.
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(06-22-2015, 03:18 PM)Duchess Wrote:
Obama said nigger but those reporting it are calling it the N word. he's black, he's allowed to say nigger. Well part black so maybe he should only be able to nig.
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This is where the ultra-liberal PC crowd really pisses me off.
^ Ms. Pierce, 64, who has been teaching social studies for 40 years, was holding a classroom conversation during an Advanced Placement history class September 18 in which the students were talking about racism and offensive epithets. One of the students asked a question about why some Native Americans might be offended by The Redskins name.
Pierce, whose students at Newport News Public School in Virginia are mostly black, said 'what would you think if someone started a team called the Newport News Niggers?'
Apparently one student found that offensive, cried to the principal, and Pierce was put on leave. Jesus Christ. She wasn't advocating the use of the word, she was just using it as an example of words that can offend groups of people.
Not everyone agrees with the offended student and the principal though. Juslena Williams, a 2011 graduate of Heritage High, launched a petition on GoPetition.com calling on the school to reinstate Ms Pierce.
‘Ms. Pierce did nothing wrong. She is a history teacher, she cannot be censored for teaching terms and beliefs that people had throughout history,’ Ms Williams, who is black, wrote in her plea. She said Ms. Pierce was one of the best teachers around.
Upon the completion of the internal investigation, administrators will determine if Pierce will face disciplinary action or be allowed to return to work.
I hope this teacher is allowed to return to her job. In the meantime, her students are being taught by different substitutes and said to be falling behind. Context matters -- if Pierce had called one of her students a nigger, it would be a problem. But, that's not what she did and I think it's bullshit that she was placed on leave at all, given the context of her remark.
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A little common sense would go far in many of these ridiculous cases.
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Censorship at its finest. It's a word. How people react to it is totally on them.
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(09-28-2015, 01:53 PM)username Wrote: Censorship at its finest. It's a word. How people react to it is totally on them.
I gave you credit for being smarter.
Guess I'm wrong.
While 'nigger' certainly is 'just' a word, it's a derogatory word meant to belittle and put someone down.
Are you serious when you say you can just walk up to a black person, call them 'nigger' and think less of them when they slug you in the face because they don't know how to handle a simple word?
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(09-28-2015, 02:20 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: (09-28-2015, 01:53 PM)username Wrote: Censorship at its finest. It's a word. How people react to it is totally on them.
I gave you credit for being smarter.
Guess I'm wrong.
While 'nigger' certainly is 'just' a word, it's a derogatory word meant to belittle and put someone down.
Are you serious when you say you can just walk up to a black person, call them 'nigger' and think less of them when they slug you in the face because they don't know how to handle a simple word?
I didn't say I wouldn't get punched but that doesn't make that reaction appropriate. Why can black people throw it around so carelessly and then make it a high crime for a white person to use it in any context?
I have a lot of German in me but I wouldn't punch someone for calling me a nazi or a honky or most any other name. Sticks and stones, MS. Again, the people that allow it to get under their skin...it's their problem.
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(09-28-2015, 03:40 PM)username Wrote: (09-28-2015, 02:20 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: (09-28-2015, 01:53 PM)username Wrote: Censorship at its finest. It's a word. How people react to it is totally on them.
I gave you credit for being smarter.
Guess I'm wrong.
While 'nigger' certainly is 'just' a word, it's a derogatory word meant to belittle and put someone down.
Are you serious when you say you can just walk up to a black person, call them 'nigger' and think less of them when they slug you in the face because they don't know how to handle a simple word?
I didn't say I wouldn't get punched but that doesn't make that reaction appropriate. Why can black people throw it around so carelessly and then make it a high crime for a white person to use it in any context?
I have a lot of German in me but I wouldn't punch someone for calling me a nazi or a honky or most any other name. Sticks and stones, MS. Again, the people that allow it to get under their skin...it's their problem.
Calling a black person a nigger and a black person calling you a Nazi aren't even comparable User.
BTW, I don't think the teacher should've been suspended.
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(09-28-2015, 04:08 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: Calling a black person a nigger and a black person calling you a Nazi aren't even comparable User.
BTW, I don't think the teacher should've been suspended.
Why isn't it comparable? They're both derogatory terms. Same as "Redskin" but you don't hear people calling that the "R" word.
I think the more people "take offense", the more they're screaming "I'm a victim, I'm a victim" and identifying with the subjugation (slavery) that their ancestors faced. Which allows for all kinds of excuses as to why they're helpless and hopeless when, in fact, that's largely wrong thinking.
Being called "gay" used to be an insult too but most gay people I know wouldn't bitch slap you for that--they'd probably say "so"?
That one fucking word has been given so much power; it's ludicrous.
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If you truly don't see the difference between Nigger, and say, Redskin, Savage, Whitey, Cracker, etc (and aren't just trolling), then I shall now call you Ramsey Junior.
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(09-28-2015, 05:42 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: If you truly don't see the difference between Nigger, and say, Redskin, Savage, Whitey, Cracker, etc (and aren't just trolling), then I shall now call you Ramsey Junior.
See? Worst insult ever and I'm not even the least bit offended.
We enslaved the Indians, MS. We imprisoned the slanty eyes during the war. Still, no word evokes the same emotion (nor the need to abbreviate it to "N") as nigger.
I personally don't feel an ounce of guilt for what happened to black people before my time. Nigger was short for niger/negro which simply meant "black". That was offensive so then it became colored people, THAT was offensive so then it became blacks, then African American and the last I heard, the "African" part is unnecessary (and oftentimes incorrect) and perhaps we should all just call each other Americans. Jesus. Words.
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Alright, you've persuaded me into believing that all offensive names are equal in value.
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(09-28-2015, 06:38 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: Alright, you've persuaded me into believing that all offensive names are equal in value.
About time, darkie. Aaand, there's another one that ought not be uttered. I wonder what kind of response that would elicit from a group of black Americans hanging out in the hood. If Paula Deen had said darkie instead of nigger would the end result have been any different? I doubt it. I thought genetically black people have thicker skin. They sure seem to wrinkle less.
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I think porch monkey is underrated as a derogatory term. If I were a darkie I think I'd be much more offended at being labelled a porch monkey than a nigger.
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