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EX LAPD COP Christopher Dorner
#61
There's an interesting aspect to Dorner's actions that I have been considering.

That is the amount of manpower and dollars being spent in the pursuit of one "heavily armed" individual with military and police training.

There is certain legislative action being discussed in California that would possibly lead to the confiscation of assault rifles from law abiding citizens.

http://www.examiner.com/article/potentia...ntrol-laws

What would happen if LEO were dispatched to dozens or hundreds or thousands of homes to confiscate assault rifles??? How many citizens would voluntarily give up their legally purchased and held firearms?

Granted, this is obviously an extreme case scenario, but still it makes me wonder.
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(02-10-2013, 01:27 PM)HarleyGuy Wrote: What would happen if LEO were dispatched to dozens or hundreds or thousands of homes to confiscate assault rifles???


That sounds like something Hitler would do.
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(02-10-2013, 01:29 PM)Duchess Wrote:
(02-10-2013, 01:27 PM)HarleyGuy Wrote: What would happen if LEO were dispatched to dozens or hundreds or thousands of homes to confiscate assault rifles???


That sounds like something Hitler would do.

Actually it was the Treaty of Versailles that limited firearm/ammunition ownership I believe. Although Hitler continued the policy.
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A directive like the one you referenced would come from our government, right? I already think they play too big a role in our life, I know some people find that comforting, I don't. It concerns me whenever talk of confiscating weapons comes up, I don't think it's too far fetched to believe that could happen...all under the guise of protecting Americans.
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(02-10-2013, 02:06 PM)Duchess Wrote:

............ It concerns me whenever talk of confiscating weapons comes up, I don't think it's too far fetched to believe that could happen...all under the guise of protecting Americans.

I share you concern wholeheartedly.

There is no question there are those who would disarm the citizens were it possible. And yes it would be deemed for the protection of the people.

I think tho it would be a very large mistake. The LEO's hunting Dorner are doing so not just to apprehend a criminal, but to protect themselves from his proclaimed intent to kill them. In my opinion there are many thousands of gun owners who would in fact be willimg to kill those who would attempt to confiscate their weapons.

Multiply Dorner by 50,000 or 100,000 or more. Add to that the fact that many in the LE community have already declared their intent to uphold the 2nd Ammendment despite the intent of politicians.

And knowing many veterans and active duty servicemen, I am of the opinion that if the military were called upon to disarm their fellow countrymen, there would be widespread revolt in the ranks.

A second American Revolution is not something that can be totally discounted these days.
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(02-10-2013, 02:25 PM)HarleyGuy Wrote: A second American Revolution is not something that can be totally discounted these days.


I don't scoff at it like I used to. Smiley_emoticons_slash
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$1 million reward in search for fugitive LA cop

Link~http://news.msn.com/us/dollar1-million-reward-in-search-for-fugitive-la-cop
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Whoa. I don't think I've ever seen a reward so high.

Seeking leads in a massive manhunt, Los Angeles authorities on Sunday put up a $1 million reward for information leading to the arrest of Christopher Dorner, the former Los Angeles police officer suspected in three killings.

LA Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa announced the reward at a news conference at Los Angeles Police Department headquarters.

"Hopefully, the reward will motivate people that may be involved with assisting him or might be reluctant to talk to us to call us and to put an end to this," Sgt. Rudy Lopez said ahead of the announcement.

Meanwhile, authorities said camping gear was found along with weapons inside Dorner's burned-out pickup truck. The vehicle found Thursday in the ski resort town of Big Bear was so charred that investigators couldn't be more specific about the nature of its contents, Lopez said.

Also Sunday, police investigated a taunting phone call that may have been made by Dorner to the father of the woman they believe he killed last week. Two law enforcement officers who requested anonymity because of the ongoing investigation told The Associated Press they are trying to determine if the call days after the killing was made by the 33-year-old fugitive or a man posing as him.

SWAT teams with air support and bloodhounds fanned out for the fourth day to search for Dorner, who has vowed revenge against several former LAPD colleagues whom he blames for ending his career.

The effort was significantly scaled back as the weekend went on, with 25 officers and a single helicopter looking for clues in the forest and going door-to-door at some 600 cabins in the San Bernardino mountains, about 80 miles northeast of downtown Los Angeles.

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A directive like the one you referenced would come from our government, right? I already think they play too big a role in our life, I know some people find that comforting, I don't. It concerns me whenever talk of confiscating weapons comes up, I don't think it's too far fetched to believe that could happen...all under the guise of protecting Americans.

Duchess, I does mean that you don't want a chip in you !!!
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The thought of babies being chipped like a dog, gives me the piss quivers !
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(02-10-2013, 01:29 PM)Duchess Wrote:
(02-10-2013, 01:27 PM)HarleyGuy Wrote: What would happen if LEO were dispatched to dozens or hundreds or thousands of homes to confiscate assault rifles???


That sounds like something Hitler would do.

Two quick thoughts:
First, there were no assault rifles back in WWII.
Second, Hitler is dead.


Carry on. . .
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(02-10-2013, 07:01 PM)OnBendedKnee Wrote: Two quick thoughts:
First, there were no assault rifles back in WWII.
Second, Hitler is dead.


Will I be redeemed if I say Hitler-like instead?
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#73
Nazi-esk is more accurate.
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Video Shows Ex-LAPD Cop Murder Suspect in National City, Calif.
NBC 6 South Florida



Newly released surveillance video showed a wanted homicide suspect tossing several items into a dumpster behind a store in National City, Calif., 48 hours before the alleged crime spree that prompted a manhunt throughout the Southwest.

Former Los Angeles Police Department officer Christopher Dorner is suspected in a series of attacks over the past week that left three people dead, including a Riverside, California, police officer.

Authorities say Dorner has vowed revenge against several former LAPD colleagues whom he blames for ending his career.

NBC 7 San Diego has obtained surveillance video through sources close to the investigation. The video was taken outside an auto parts store on Main Street in National City at 9:07 a.m. Monday. The store is located directly across the street from the National City police station.

On the video, a Nissan Titan truck pulls up to a dumpster and stops. For four minutes, someone unloads items from the back.

Majid Yahyai is an employee at Platinum Auto Sports.

"He was right on the tape, I mean he went, came back, made a U-turn, stopped," Yahyai said.

A man matching Dorner’s description stops near a second dumpster closer to the discreetly mounted security camera.

Wearing jeans and a jacket the man walks over to the passenger door and begins searching through more belongings.

"He was for three, four minutes inside his car looking for things," Yahyai said.

This time he throws away what we now know was a magazine full of bullets with their tips carefully sawed off, a green military belt strap, and a brown camouflage helmet.

The items were discovered within a half hour by an employee.

Police aren't disclosing specifics about the items found in the first dumpster, but it was all a huge find for detectives, who were equally elated to find it was all captured on video.

For those at this shop who were there working as it happened - the encounter is a little too close to home.

"So he missed him by 20 - 30 minutes at most, if he'd of gone 20 minutes earlier probably he would've seen him back here. Scary," Yahyai said.

Yahyai said he and the employee took the items across the street to a police station. They told NBC 7 San Diego they were just happy to help in the investigation.

Saturday was the third full day of a massive multi-agency hunt for Dorner in the San Bernardino mountains, about 80 miles northeast of downtown Los Angeles, where Dorner's burned-out pickup truck was discovered Thursday.

A scaled-back search party took advantage of a break from stormy weather to search for Dorner using heat-sensing helicopters as vacationing families and weekend skiers frolicked nearby.

A law enforcement officer told The Associated Press authorities found weapons in the truck. The officer spoke on condition of anonymity because the probe is ongoing.

Investigators have been examining the truck to determine if it broke down or was set ablaze as a diversion. Police say the truck had a broken axle.

Investigators are trying to determine whether it was already broken when they found it, or whether it was damaged when it was towed away.

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#75
Not a worry in the world! not in any big hurry at all to clean out the truck!
I saw no sign of Dorner being nervous in the video, what a stroke of luck the video is and right across from the Police Station.

SC, why were the tips of the bullets sawed off?

Thanks.
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#76
The StG44 was used by the Germans in 1944. Arguably the first assault rifle.
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#77
^
That is a badass weapon.
(Really, based on horsepower alone, the Germans should have won.)
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#78
Possible sighting in Northridge...Lowes has been closed down. They also have a command post up. On my phone can't post article. sorry.

ETA..They have also posted his court documents on the lawsuit against LAPD
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(02-10-2013, 08:20 PM)OnBendedKnee Wrote: ^
(Really, based on horsepower alone, the Germans should have won.)

Ummm....not to hijack this excellent thread....but Germany had no chance to win WWII. None. Zero. Zilch.
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(02-11-2013, 12:03 AM)HarleyGuy Wrote:
(02-10-2013, 08:20 PM)OnBendedKnee Wrote: ^
(Really, based on horsepower alone, the Germans should have won.)

Ummm....not to hijack this excellent thread....but Germany had no chance to win WWII. None. Zero. Zilch.

If the Russians were not so resilient with winter warfare and/or if America didn't involve ourselves so quickly, sure they could have.
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