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We don't need no education
We don't need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the class room
Teachers leave those kids alone
(yells) Hey, teachers! Leave those kids alone!
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(04-19-2013, 09:57 PM)username Wrote: (04-19-2013, 09:34 PM)Jimbone Wrote: (04-19-2013, 08:05 AM)Duchess Wrote:
"I have kids in the house".
This seems like a really good reason to protect your family and not wait for the police.
It's also one of the reasons I have guns in my house.
Serious question. What are the odds that you would use your guns to defend your house vs. the odds of a gun accident where one of your kids were harmed?
Virtually Zero. I taught my kids to never touch the gun without me telling them to, Further I taught them not to fuck with anything that was not theirs And the gun was never out in view for them to see. They would have had to go searching for it, yet another thing they knew never to even think of.
Once they were old enough I taught them how to handle the gun.
Education is key yo gun safety as well as just about everything else.
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(04-20-2013, 08:35 AM)SIXFOOTERsez Wrote: (04-19-2013, 09:57 PM)username Wrote: (04-19-2013, 09:34 PM)Jimbone Wrote: (04-19-2013, 08:05 AM)Duchess Wrote:
"I have kids in the house".
This seems like a really good reason to protect your family and not wait for the police.
It's also one of the reasons I have guns in my house.
Serious question. What are the odds that you would use your guns to defend your house vs. the odds of a gun accident where one of your kids were harmed?
Virtually Zero. I taught my kids to never touch the gun without me telling them to, Further I taught them not to fuck with anything that was not theirs And the gun was never out in view for them to see. They would have had to go searching for it, yet another thing they knew never to even think of.
Once they were old enough I taught them how to handle the gun.
Education is key yo gun safety as well as just about everything else.
I agree with most of what Six said. If you teach the children about firearms at a early age you take the mystery as well as the fear out of the object. When its not a big "secret" to them they just become another tool in the home. My children and now grandchildren are well aware of the firearms around my home. They have never once tried to screw with any of the firearms. They all know that should they feel the need to shoot them all they need to do is ask and we will head to the range, put on our safety gear and have a blast.
The only thing I have a little different view than six on is the put away part. Yes most of my loaded firearms are tucked out of sight, but as I type this there is a locked and loaded [condition 1] 40cal Springfield XD laying on the table right between my grandson, who is eating breakfast and I. It will be removed from the table shortly and placed into the holster on my side when I head out the door and head to work. But in the mean time it is laying there in plain view and the grandson and I are joking around as he eats breakfast and watches saturday morning cartoons. To him it is no different than the cammera, my keys, cellphone, or sunglasses that are also sitting here.
Also the hundred plus firearms that are unloaded are all in plain view, but all in one room, my gun room/man cave.
I say teach them about firearms and they will be safer than if you would hide firearms away from them.
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So you guys taught your toddlers about firearms and trusted they wouldn't touch it if they even came upon one? That's a chance I wouldn't be willing to take.
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(04-20-2013, 09:05 AM)sally Wrote: So you guys taught your toddlers about firearms and trusted they wouldn't touch it if they even came upon one? That's a chance I wouldn't be willing to take.
Yes Sally, I have put firearms in the hands of ALL my infant/toddler/young [what ever term you wish to use] children/grandchildren. They learn about them at a early age from someone that knows about guns. Rather than from TV or video games. I feel it is actually safer to teach them about them than it is to let them learn on their own.
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(04-19-2013, 09:57 PM)username Wrote: Serious question. What are the odds that you would use your guns to defend your house vs. the odds of a gun accident where one of your kids were harmed?
Currently, zero. The kids are too small, the guns are locked and physically out of reach for them.
But from a fatality standpoint, unintentional drowning is far and away more of a risk to children 14 and younger than unintentional firearm death.
So just as you have to fence in a pool and teach your kids to swim, you must do the same if you make the decision to have firearms in your home.
When they get older, I'll teach them about gun safety and how to handle firearms.
One of the best pieces of advice I ever received was similar to something FU said... removing the mystery and secrecy about a gun is the best way to keep kids from being interested in them. When they want to handle or look at a gun, let them - every time they ask. Within a short period of time, it will be like every other item in the house they are around and they won't be as interested.
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FU, I agree.
Most of my guns are out of obvious sight, most people would never notice them. I can put my hand on any of them in the dark as can the GF. We don't have any kids around, but if I did they would be taught the same as my kids were.
In my man cave its another matter, standing in the door there are several in sight, all hot. There are also several bows, arrows and a couple swords.
Grandkids are coming next month, I'll have that conversation with them and my daughter when they get here. Not a lot I can tell the son in law, he is a retired navy seal commander. We get along fine.
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This grandma is cool as a cucumber; she wasn't waiting on LE.
An 84-year-old St. Charles grandmother caught a burglar in her home and held the suspect at gunpoint until police arrived, according to the St. Charles County prosecutor.
The grandma, who wishes to remain anonymous, woke up at 4 a.m. February 11 to find the blankets near her bedroom door were rearranged.
The grandmother went to investigate when she says she saw a woman hiding in the closet out of the corner of her eye. The grandma grabbed a gun out of a nearby drawer.
"I just told her 'Okay now, come out of there,' or something like that and she came right out and I said, 'We're going to go into the kitchen,'" she said.
The grandmother held the suspect at gunpoint, called police, and held her there until officers arrived.
According to court documents, Britnee Taylor had rifled through the woman's jewelry case while she slept and stole $5,000 worth of jewelry.
Police found the jewelry on Taylor. Prosecutors say she had also stolen the woman's car keys and handicapped placard.
Taylor is charged with felony burglary and stealing.
Video interview here.
http://www.ksdk.com/news/article/373543/...t-gunpoint
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A good lesson for that kid, she could have been killed. I bet she smartens up over this and goes on to become the star in a broadway musical called "Granny git yer gun"
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Mygrandma was partial to an old 16 ga shotgun, she was good with it too.
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