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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ZEROSPHERES - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 01:49 AM)DickTracy Wrote: Lucas County Coroner James Patrick said autopsies performed yesterday showed that both Ms. Straub and Mr. Clarke died from asphyxiation. They had injuries to their necks but no other significant marks, he said."dying within 6 hours of being found" sounds to me like a 10pm to 4am time frame for TOD...and using deductive reasoning since I believe TW did talk to JC around 11p and that will be confirmed by cell phone records and John S found his son at 3:50 am .....We then can conclude a reasonable TOD at between 11pm and 3:50am....That sounds familiar, I may have heard that before...Oh no wait!....I said that before.... RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - PURPLECATS - 02-18-2011 SOURCE: Stærkeby, M. "What Happens after Death?" In the University of Oslo Forensic Entomology Approximate times for algor and rigor mortis Body temperature Body stiffness Time since death warm not stiff dead not more than three hours warm stiff dead 3 to 8 hours cold stiff dead 8 to 36 hours cold not stiff dead more than 36 hours If Johnny's dad says he went to give him CPR and he was cold to the touch it may seem that he may have been dead before 11:00 if they found them at 4. John Clarke broke into the Straubs' home and tore the bags off the victims' heads so he could give them CPR. As he did, he discovered that their faces were already cold. Dr. Patrick said his office could not pinpoint a time of death. i hope this is ok to post i hope this is ok to post this RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - kitty1 - 02-18-2011 (02-17-2011, 05:15 PM)curious Wrote: In regards to the dad, the window, and basement... they found the puppy under the couch. poor thing was traumatized. he was biting and nipping at everyone that was trying to get him out. they had to call the dog warden to get him out. he is safe now and in good hands. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - curiouscat - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 01:25 AM)kitty1 Wrote:(02-18-2011, 12:33 AM)allieayy Wrote:(02-18-2011, 12:31 AM)DickTracy Wrote: Very nice pic of Johnny & Lisa.... and her aunt...all very beautiful:( Usually a good thing. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ZEROSPHERES - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 02:04 AM)jash Wrote:Quote:kitty1 Wrote: Yes...I agree.....and its possible someone in this saga was placing calls to them trying too keep them from going home and instead coming over pick pick her and her friend up. Maybe that delay tactic was to be employed even further by getting JC to then "run her to the store".....and that all fizzled when "lo and behold" JC is answering the phone back at LS house because she wanted to get changed while he went back out to pickup the friends instead of going with..... RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - kitty1 - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 01:40 AM)Jane Wrote:(02-18-2011, 01:16 AM)curious Wrote:(02-17-2011, 11:38 PM)jash Wrote: UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My son is in the basement, tied up with a towel (ph). I just saw him through the window. The police were (EXPLETIVE DELETED) earlier and did absolutely nothing! we know that. that has never been in question. the last 911 call is when she reports that they have been found. i don't understand what u r saying????? of course they would find the bodies and then call 911. u r not making any sense at all??????????????????? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - sealed27 - 02-18-2011 I've been reading this for awhile also, and wonder if TW never even talked to JC, her word against someone who can't speak, maybe Tw used his phone to call hers while they were there at LS's parents home, just a thought, she could have been on both RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - curiouscat - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 12:34 AM)truth be told Wrote:(02-17-2011, 10:33 PM)curiouscat Wrote: Just wondering has anyone ever looked for rap sheets on Joe and Maggie Cromer, JC's uncle and aunt who spoke at the first press conference the night of the murder's with Lisa's uncle? I hope I I am not breaking rules, I am not calling them out as suspects, they just made themselves well known the first night and then disappeared. Is that Maytee's sister? Do you remember her, Aunt Maggie, seeming to almost laugh through the interview though media cut her off after seconds? Or her strange laugh-like, joker expression in the Toledo Blade? Maybe she was on xanax to remain calm....but.... They said he was so close to them that he was like a son...though now they have become silent and almost forgotten, conveniently invisible...this is not an accusation per say, so I hope i am not in trouble on here. I very much respect LC and the Dutchess, but with all the criminal records pulled regarding anyone we can find associated, what about them? I am not a great sleuth like many of you...so I am just putting it out there....can anyone do a search on them? Just a curious cat, who has felt bad vibes.... Thank you for that information, I didn't mean to criticize...but Maytee has left holes and they didn't read well at first glance, I don't know Johnny's past with his mother, but I can surmise it is NOT good just by the obvious craziness that even a grieving mother is acting. I am sorry to offend. Merely making a point of observation. Glad to know he had GOOD family to support him, just like LIsa's did I apologize again...I'm an outside the box thinker and it causes issues when my box is off. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - kitty1 - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 02:04 AM)jash Wrote:do u think that her uncle is gonna announce on national tv that she was half dressed. he says that she was still in her uniform. you can't assume that to mean her entire uniform. the point he was trying to make was that she wasnt home very long because she always changes out of her uniform right away. She didn't get that far.Quote:kitty1 Wrote: RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - NightOwl - 02-18-2011 (02-17-2011, 10:20 PM)shitstorm Wrote:(02-17-2011, 09:56 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: Is anyone besides me squeaked by the photos of M and J here? How observant! Good Post! Maytee means "loveable" in Basque language. Cuban mothers are very loving with their sons! RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - AriGold - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 02:08 AM)LedZeppelin Wrote: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ban-Justice-for-Johnny-and-Lisa/153432314713870 Jesus Christ. Really? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - TotallyCurious - 02-18-2011 Now and at 3AM EST on A and E Beyond Scared Straight Gangbangers go to Jail RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - curious - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 02:43 AM)kitty1 Wrote:(02-17-2011, 05:15 PM)curious Wrote: In regards to the dad, the window, and basement... Thank you, i was worried about the little one so that makes me feel better RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - AriGold - 02-18-2011 Has the issue of the "intraband pants" been clarified yet? I'm still confused as to what those are and what part they played (if any) in this. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - curiouscat - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 02:51 AM)kitty1 Wrote:(02-18-2011, 01:40 AM)Jane Wrote:(02-18-2011, 01:16 AM)curious Wrote:(02-17-2011, 11:38 PM)jash Wrote: UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My son is in the basement, tied up with a towel (ph). I just saw him through the window. The police were (EXPLETIVE DELETED) earlier and did absolutely nothing! Ok having a problem with unidentified caller...no cell number to trace, no pings, she obviously wasn't Maytee or by now they would have ascertained it's not Maytee...with the FBI involved, cmon now with that the elite squad of invesigators and they haven't identified the caller...either the caller is so connected to such a brilliant hit no federal investigation can place or maybe they already know and are waiting for the final evidence or I'm starting to get scared now...even the FBI can't get a finger on this case. Reallly? WOW...they already released the profile...those are fairly accurate...once again... and usually a here we come get ready move.....all the silence from LE I believe is cuz someone bigger, stronger, better and more capable of the arrest is already in the house. problem is...their case is so important this case seems unsolved. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - kitty1 - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 02:48 AM)curiouscat Wrote:(02-18-2011, 01:25 AM)kitty1 Wrote:(02-18-2011, 12:33 AM)allieayy Wrote:(02-18-2011, 12:31 AM)DickTracy Wrote: Very nice pic of Johnny & Lisa.... yes. her aunt too. and her aunts older daughters. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - curiouscat - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 03:00 AM)kitty1 Wrote:(02-18-2011, 02:04 AM)jash Wrote:do u think that her uncle is gonna announce on national tv that she was half dressed. he says that she was still in her uniform. you can't assume that to mean her entire uniform. the point he was trying to make was that she wasnt home very long because she always changes out of her uniform right away. She didn't get that far.Quote:kitty1 Wrote: Thank you, all details will never be revealed...it's an ivestigation and her uncle is a good man who is speaking for her family who also has a strong understanding and background in LE...he will state facts as he is allowed by LE. Her uniform is significant point blank, whether they had stripped off her top is not for NOW...there is always a reason for holding back facts...let the investigation flow....She was just a beautiful girl. though asolutely not perfect (like all of us)....her family wants to assist not deter justice. His facts are what he is able to tell via LE. PERIOD. Sometimes those of us who love crime stories tend to forget the importance of "withheld information" and "secretivity".... cuz we just wanna solve it. Which is also admirable RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Sean69 - 02-18-2011 19 days and still no word from LE... At least say you're still working on it... WTF RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - kitty1 - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 03:06 AM)curiouscat Wrote:(02-18-2011, 02:51 AM)kitty1 Wrote:(02-18-2011, 01:40 AM)Jane Wrote:(02-18-2011, 01:16 AM)curious Wrote:(02-17-2011, 11:38 PM)jash Wrote: UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My son is in the basement, tied up with a towel (ph). I just saw him through the window. The police were (EXPLETIVE DELETED) earlier and did absolutely nothing! what unidentified caller r u talking about??????? maybe i'm just tired! RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - shitstorm - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 02:18 AM)jash Wrote:Quote:Doesn't this sound Mickey Mouse to you? I find it hard to believe they couldn't narrow down the time of death within a two hour or so window. It's not like the bodies were found a week after the murders We have Straub family friends and relatives on this thread. Lets hope they pass this on to the family, right away. |