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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - HeartBreaker - 02-22-2011 (02-22-2011, 07:11 PM)JustSayin... Wrote:(02-22-2011, 07:09 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:(02-22-2011, 05:33 PM)Jane Wrote:(02-22-2011, 05:19 PM)ToledoNative Wrote: Has anybody thought about the fact that Lisa was more wounded than Johnny? zero... that thought has crossed my mind a few times. i know that the uncle reported that there was not a safe in the house and he is seemingly a reliable source. the only reason i can think for him to announce there wasn't a safe if there really was is maybe to get someone to open their big mouth... you know "naw man... those bytches be lian. we busted the shyt out that safe." i don't know... i guess always a possibility... maybe far fetched though. p.s. how was my first attempt at ghetto talk? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - onefortheroad - 02-22-2011 (02-22-2011, 07:42 PM)lawheeze Wrote:(02-22-2011, 07:17 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: Does anyone think that Johnny might have been totally innocent that night?I don't think the perps put much thought into preserving a happy ending for Johnny and Lisa. The tape was only for the purpose of killing them. If you throw your loot and drugs into a bag, you don't tape the bag shut. You just carry it out. Tightly taped bags and tied hands indicates to me that the perps didn't care if they died at best and deliberately wanted them dead at worst. But it has occurred to me that Tiff may have thought there was a chance they could be saved when she raised the alarm, and even that it may have been part of the reason she offered to drive John Sr to the house. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - JustSayin... - 02-22-2011 (02-22-2011, 07:51 PM)HeartBreaker Wrote:(02-22-2011, 07:11 PM)JustSayin... Wrote:(02-22-2011, 07:09 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:(02-22-2011, 05:33 PM)Jane Wrote:(02-22-2011, 05:19 PM)ToledoNative Wrote: Has anybody thought about the fact that Lisa was more wounded than Johnny? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Freshbait78 - 02-22-2011 [/quote] zero... that thought has crossed my mind a few times. i know that the uncle reported that there was not a safe in the house and he is seemingly a reliable source. the only reason i can think for him to announce there wasn't a safe if there really was is maybe to get someone to open their big mouth... you know "naw man... those bytches be lian. we busted the shyt out that safe." i don't know... i guess always a possibility... maybe far fetched though. p.s. how was my first attempt at ghetto talk? [/quote] very convincing! I'm skerd! RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - HeartBreaker - 02-22-2011 (02-22-2011, 07:53 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:(02-22-2011, 07:42 PM)lawheeze Wrote:(02-22-2011, 07:17 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: Does anyone think that Johnny might have been totally innocent that night?I don't think the perps put much thought into preserving a happy ending for Johnny and Lisa. The tape was only for the purpose of killing them. If you throw your loot and drugs into a bag, you don't tape the bag shut. You just carry it out. i agree... i don't think they wanted them to live or be found alive. they could have left them in a way that assured they would live if that was the case rather than counting on someone finding them before they died or sending someone (tiff) back to the house to "save" them. it's way too complicated. for example... if they wanted them to live but not see their faces they could have used blindfolds vs. bags. if they wanted them to live after they used the bags to scare the shit out of them they could have ripped holes in the backs of the bag right before they took off... something to that effect... JMO. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - JustSayin... - 02-22-2011 zero... that thought has crossed my mind a few times. i know that the uncle reported that there was not a safe in the house and he is seemingly a reliable source. the only reason i can think for him to announce there wasn't a safe if there really was is maybe to get someone to open their big mouth... you know "naw man... those bytches be lian. we busted the shyt out that safe." i don't know... i guess always a possibility... maybe far fetched though. p.s. how was my first attempt at ghetto talk? [/quote] very convincing! I'm skerd! Fine! Ain't no safe beotch! [/quote] RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - HeartBreaker - 02-22-2011 (02-22-2011, 08:00 PM)JustSayin... Wrote:(02-22-2011, 07:58 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:zero... that thought has crossed my mind a few times. i know that the uncle reported that there was not a safe in the house and he is seemingly a reliable source. the only reason i can think for him to announce there wasn't a safe if there really was is maybe to get someone to open their big mouth... you know very convincing! I'm skerd! Fine! Ain't no safe beotch! [/quote] [/quote] jus' sayin', my nigga! are you jus' sayin' there isn't a safe because the uncle said it or because you know for a fact? just curious? i tried typing that whole thing out ghetto talk but it was too confusing for me which means i'm sure it would have been confusing for you too. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - onefortheroad - 02-22-2011 (02-22-2011, 08:00 PM)HeartBreaker Wrote:(02-22-2011, 07:53 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:(02-22-2011, 07:42 PM)lawheeze Wrote:(02-22-2011, 07:17 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: Does anyone think that Johnny might have been totally innocent that night?I don't think the perps put much thought into preserving a happy ending for Johnny and Lisa. The tape was only for the purpose of killing them. If you throw your loot and drugs into a bag, you don't tape the bag shut. You just carry it out. I never thought of blindfolds, but you're right - the bags and the tape around them must mean they were meant to die. But a part of me thinks that when Tiff was told about what had gone down (say when she picked them up or when they were concocting their alibis), SHE may have thought they had a fighting chance because she hadn't been in the house and seen them for herself. Maybe I'm giving her credit for having a small piece of a heart that night, I don't know.... RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Freshbait78 - 02-22-2011 Just thought I'd throw this out here for the hell of it. From the "fake" Tiffany Williams page.... Tiffany Williams added My Niggaz to her work. My Niggaz · salez (added 1 project) Yesterday at 6:07pm ·LikeUnlike · Write a comment... RECENT ACTIVITY Tiffany likes RIP Johnny and 2 other pages Justice for Johnny Clarke and Lisa Straub Ban Justice for Johnny and Lisa. "Maytee is one wacky puto." on Justice for Johnny Clarke and Lisa Straub's link. They ofcourse have already deleted it. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Adub - 02-22-2011 (02-22-2011, 08:06 PM)HeartBreaker Wrote:(02-22-2011, 08:00 PM)JustSayin... Wrote:(02-22-2011, 07:58 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:zero... that thought has crossed my mind a few times. i know that the uncle reported that there was not a safe in the house and he is seemingly a reliable source. the only reason i can think for him to announce there wasn't a safe if there really was is maybe to get someone to open their big mouth... you know [/quote] jus' sayin', my nigga! are you jus' sayin' there isn't a safe because the uncle said it or because you know for a fact? just curious? i tried typing that whole thing out ghetto talk but it was too confusing for me which means i'm sure it would have been confusing for you too. [/quote] fasho RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Freshbait78 - 02-22-2011 (02-22-2011, 08:09 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:(02-22-2011, 08:00 PM)HeartBreaker Wrote:(02-22-2011, 07:53 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:(02-22-2011, 07:42 PM)lawheeze Wrote:(02-22-2011, 07:17 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: Does anyone think that Johnny might have been totally innocent that night?I don't think the perps put much thought into preserving a happy ending for Johnny and Lisa. The tape was only for the purpose of killing them. If you throw your loot and drugs into a bag, you don't tape the bag shut. You just carry it out. I agree with you except for one small part. I do think Tiffany was in the house at some point. Here's why... On the very 1st 911 call Maytee says that Tiffany told her the house was ransacked & she repeats that again numerous times in retelling what Tiffany told her. Well here at Mock Tiffany says that's a lie, however I don't see her as a trustworthy person & what a cawinkydink that the house is indeed ransacked, just not where Maytee said Tiffany told her.... the kitchen cabinets were open & the house looked ransacked. It's my belief that Tiffany slipped on that one. As soon as I heard that it was the upstairs bedrooms that had been ransacked I thought, Hmmmm now how did the word ransacking come up before anyone had entered the house? Maytee said Tiffany told her that & if that's true how did Tiffany see the condition of the upstairs from the outside/ground floor? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - TotallyCurious - 02-22-2011 (02-22-2011, 08:18 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:(02-22-2011, 08:09 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:(02-22-2011, 08:00 PM)HeartBreaker Wrote:(02-22-2011, 07:53 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:(02-22-2011, 07:42 PM)lawheeze Wrote: I don't think the perps put much thought into preserving a happy ending for Johnny and Lisa. The tape was only for the purpose of killing them. If you throw your loot and drugs into a bag, you don't tape the bag shut. You just carry it out. Or was Tiffany genuinely concerned and called Serita (sp) who knew the perpetrators and called them and knew the state of the house and then called Maytee? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - shitstorm - 02-22-2011 (02-22-2011, 01:15 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: Storm: I'm gonna get chewed out. lol. http://lunaticoutpost.com/smilies/lmao.gif From another forum I hang at. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - TotallyCurious - 02-22-2011 I wonder if the neighbors' of the Straub's have seen police bring any suspicious characters to the house to identify "Which doorbell did you ring? What small window did you look through? What cupboard was open?" As well as "Which window did you look through? How did you lift the person up?" RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 02-22-2011 (02-22-2011, 08:25 PM)shitstorm Wrote:it still says no hotlinking...is that what you intended to post?(02-22-2011, 01:15 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: Storm: I'm gonna get chewed out. lol. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ZEROSPHERES - 02-22-2011 (02-22-2011, 08:09 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:(02-22-2011, 08:00 PM)HeartBreaker Wrote:(02-22-2011, 07:53 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:(02-22-2011, 07:42 PM)lawheeze Wrote:(02-22-2011, 07:17 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: The way the bags and Duct Tape was uesd on JC and LS was defenately "TO KILL"...If I can locate the Video of Maytee gesturung with her hands as she explained the wrapping of the tape around their heads I see her motioning as if the bag in place was wrapped tightly by tape not just to secure the bag to their necks but it was wrapped repeatedly around their heads. She also says tape ina bag or something like that was left next to the bodies. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - onefortheroad - 02-22-2011 (02-22-2011, 08:18 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:(02-22-2011, 08:09 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:(02-22-2011, 08:00 PM)HeartBreaker Wrote:(02-22-2011, 07:53 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:(02-22-2011, 07:42 PM)lawheeze Wrote: I don't think the perps put much thought into preserving a happy ending for Johnny and Lisa. The tape was only for the purpose of killing them. If you throw your loot and drugs into a bag, you don't tape the bag shut. You just carry it out. (02-22-2011, 08:24 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote:(02-22-2011, 08:18 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:(02-22-2011, 08:09 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:(02-22-2011, 08:00 PM)HeartBreaker Wrote:(02-22-2011, 07:53 PM)onefortheroad Wrote: Tightly taped bags and tied hands indicates to me that the perps didn't care if they died at best and deliberately wanted them dead at worst. But it has occurred to me that Tiff may have thought there was a chance they could be saved when she raised the alarm, and even that it may have been part of the reason she offered to drive John Sr to the house. Maybe Tiff said it looked ransacked because she was trying to get somebody out there quickly and thought it was still possible to save them. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Inspector Gary - 02-22-2011 SOMEBODY has to know something!!! Locals, what are you hearing? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - JustSayin... - 02-22-2011 (02-22-2011, 08:06 PM)HeartBreaker Wrote:(02-22-2011, 08:00 PM)JustSayin... Wrote:(02-22-2011, 07:58 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:zero... that thought has crossed my mind a few times. i know that the uncle reported that there was not a safe in the house and he is seemingly a reliable source. the only reason i can think for him to announce there wasn't a safe if there really was is maybe to get someone to open their big mouth... you know [/quote] Because I know. jus' sayin', my nigga! are you jus' sayin' there isn't a safe because the uncle said it or because you know for a fact? just curious? i tried typing that whole thing out ghetto talk but it was too confusing for me which means i'm sure it would have been confusing for you too. [/quote] RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Freshbait78 - 02-22-2011 (02-22-2011, 08:29 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:(02-22-2011, 08:18 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:(02-22-2011, 08:09 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:(02-22-2011, 08:00 PM)HeartBreaker Wrote:(02-22-2011, 07:53 PM)onefortheroad Wrote: Tightly taped bags and tied hands indicates to me that the perps didn't care if they died at best and deliberately wanted them dead at worst. But it has occurred to me that Tiff may have thought there was a chance they could be saved when she raised the alarm, and even that it may have been part of the reason she offered to drive John Sr to the house. @ One for the road... the story is still the same, she was at one point in the house to see it ransacked if that's the case. & It's not a step in & Oh shit look what I've found. The house was ransacked upstairs. @ Just Curious..... I'm sorry but I think that's stretching it too far. Tiffany just happens to call the one person who was in on the set up & knew what happened to tell her she thought something was wrong & it wasn't Tiffany that mentioned a ransacking but Sharita? I'm not buying that. |