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Miss Conspiracy Post #1188 According to The Toledo Blade Samuel Williams is a first year social work student at Owens. I think he just began at the College this year. The woman SC that he was living with she has "Studied at Owens" as a heading on her Facebook maybe she met Lisa? JMO.
Samuel Todd Williams seems to be a fan of Samuel Peralta I wonder if a baseball bat was involved with Johnny and Lisa?
I agree with you Miss Conspiracy Johnny says "what are you doing here bro?" it sounds like one person to me at the start but I am not sure if Johnny even knew this Samuel Williams.
Where are Samuel Williams - father & mother do they live on the east side of Toledo does anyone know?
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from foxtoledo.com article.......
"He's like, 'I got 'em. I got 'em, Maytee. I got 'em. Justice has been a long haul but I got 'em.'"
"This is about Johnny and Lisa," Vasquez-Clarke said. "He didn't fail them. He told me he wasn't going to stop until he caught them and he caught them."
Lots of references on-line to getting "them". Wonder if the other part of "them" is already in custody on other charges and that is why we haven't heard anything about additional arrests.
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didn't someone say johnny's cousin knew this guy? someone said they bought pot from the guy ....could have been something as simple as:
johnny frequently bought pot from samual, johnny owed him some $ (hence the personal rage/bag/tape), heard from johnny's cuz's friends's friends about his set up at Longacre, so he was pissed but main motive robbery. just like lady cop said all along (yes yes, admitted kiss ass, but true)
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(09-25-2011, 04:56 PM)pspence Wrote: didn't someone say johnny's cousin knew this guy? someone said they bought pot from the guy ....could have been something as simple as:
johnny frequently bought pot from samual, johnny owed him some $ (hence the personal rage/bag/tape), heard from johnny's cuz's friends's friends about his set up at Longacre, so he was pissed but main motive robbery. just like lady cop said all along (yes yes, admitted kiss ass, but true) Someone did mention a cousin of Johnny's knew this guy your right but, I don't know where - LL is female and a cousin of Johnny's she is on Samuel Williams Facebook page wonder why? Maytee is her aunt, Maytee's sister's daughter!
Yes someone mentioned a friend of theirs bought weed from this Samuel Williams. Allieyy Mocker.
Johnny had used weed that night Lisa had not, Johnny was at a friends house before he picked up Lisa I think he is VD if I am not mistaken VD is on probation for possession of weed. Why would Johnny need weed from Williams? but, anything is possible!
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Interesting coincidence>>>> AG's ex girlfriend, who also happened to be there when TW's ex was shot and killed, was arrested on some minor charges and released the other day. She also happens to know Samuel Williams GF. She deleted her FB recently but at least 2 of her family members are still friends with Samuel William's gf.
Another coincidence>>>> M J was discussed on Mock early on because he was with AG the day before the murders. His sister and cousin are both FB friends with Samuel Williams:
M J: "SOUTH END 300 WESTERN BLOCC LOCZ BITCH"
M J: "Cruzin t da hood w my goon ap getin dis money smokein dis loud"
JV: Do ppl forget what happends to snitches..? it aint just stitches anymore!!
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Johnny has other relatives from his mom's side as "friends" on Williams' facebook, also. Actually, the more I look at the friends list it is unbelievable to me that Sam Williams was an "unknown". Maybe they just hadn't made all the connections when the news first hit the media.
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(09-25-2011, 07:03 PM)Adub Wrote: Johnny has other relatives from his mom's side as "friends" on Williams' facebook, also. Actually, the more I look at the friends list it is unbelievable to me that Sam Williams was an "unknown". Maybe they just hadn't made all the connections when the news first hit the media.
I find it odd that he is "unknown" as well because a while back when I was asking AG questions that I posted in here, he had acutally told me that where they are all from "everyone knows, everyone" and then I see and hear that Samuel Williams is friends with alot of different people who were also friends with Johnny or Johnnys family and I just find it hard to believe.
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Ahhh geez, starting w/all the initials again!! I just hope Sam Williams talks and doesn't plead the 5th.
It's the hint of arsenic that gives it that extra kick.
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of course we will continue using initials for people who are merely "friends" on facebook. i am sure many are only FB "friends", and even though some may have a connection, slight or otherwise, that does not involve them in a murder. or make them parties or suspects or the best friend's cousin's uncle's garbageman.
nobody is going to be named on here except parties named by LE or the media.
speculate all you like but eat your delicious alphabet soup. 
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(09-24-2011, 12:55 AM)pplrcrazy Wrote: (09-24-2011, 12:16 AM)Older Than Dirt Wrote: I agree! That was the first thing to come to my mind.I wonder if he's going to accompany her every time she goes to court. At the very least, that seems like a case of emotional child abuse.
I agree, I just think that poor child has been through enough, he shouldn't be taken in to a court room, he has already lost alot of his youth because of this tragedy in his life, he will never forget any of this, and he it will affect him when he gets older and by putting him through more and more everyday is only making it worse. I understand how bad this is for the family and friends, but someone has got to make this childs life as normal as possible given the situation and thats supposed to be the parent's job, to take all of the burden and evil and put it on them selves as long as that child doesn't have to endure more than he should.. He's going to be a very angry adult if it doesn't stop.
Shouldn't the poor child be in school? Is the school going to allow this to be an excused absence?
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I think Maytee may have said that the boys are being home schooled.
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(09-25-2011, 09:21 PM)kfran Wrote: Ahhh geez, starting w/all the initials again!!
Well JJ has my mind spinning at the moment. Samuel Todd Williams commented on his page a few times (they are fb friends of course) but more than that he was busted along with CB and DW back in 2010. CB and DW are both southside boys living in Johnny's old neighborhood. But of course JJ is from the eastside, just like Samuel Todd Williams. And JJ is friends with AG/AP, JE, MV, and numerous other letter combinations that appear highly suspicious. And JJ was selling pitbulls, and enjoying percocets.
Forgot to add that CB, DW, and JJ were all busted for trafficking drugs. Heroin is what the court records state.
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(09-25-2011, 11:08 PM)Adub Wrote: (09-25-2011, 09:21 PM)kfran Wrote: Ahhh geez, starting w/all the initials again!!
Well JJ has my mind spinning at the moment. Samuel Todd Williams commented on his page a few times (they are fb friends of course) but more than that he was busted along with CB and DW back in 2010. CB and DW are both southside boys living in Johnny's old neighborhood. But of course JJ is from the eastside, just like Samuel Todd Williams. And JJ is friends with AG/AP, JE, MV, and numerous other letter combinations that appear highly suspicious. And JJ was selling pitbulls, and enjoying percocets.
Forgot to add that CB, DW, and JJ were all busted for trafficking drugs. Heroin is what the court records state.
I checked out JJ and I have to know .. How in the hell was he able to update his facebook status from jail ?? Also , what kind of dog is Johnny's ?
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(09-25-2011, 11:08 PM)Adub Wrote: Forgot to add that CB, DW, and JJ were all busted for trafficking drugs. Heroin is what the court records state.
Adub, they are females?
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(09-25-2011, 11:54 PM)Sincere Wrote: I checked out JJ and I have to know .. How in the hell was he able to update his facebook status from jail ?? Also , what kind of dog is Johnny's ?
Part of the time he was on community control. Ankle bracelet. the court dropped the trafficking charge and he pled guilty to possession. But it looks like he was locked up when Johnny and Lisa were murdered. He was rearrested for violating probationon 1/11/11. But still, it is a connection. Johnny and Lisa had a pitbull.
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(09-25-2011, 11:57 PM)NightOwl Wrote: (09-25-2011, 11:08 PM)Adub Wrote: Forgot to add that CB, DW, and JJ were all busted for trafficking drugs. Heroin is what the court records state.
Adub, they are females?
No. CB and DW are friends of VD 
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Now this is facebook convo worth reading, imo.
JM i dnt care wat anyone says my nigga aint kill that couple...FREE SAMMY SOSA!!!
CG i feelu on that one i know he aint do it
Friday at 7:17pm ยท
BG nobody knows!!!!
BG especially you jeremy smarty pants
CG becky come on now can u really see sam doin some shit like that i can see him kickin in a door n beatin someone up but i dont see him killin someone like that
JM rite that nigga wouldnt do some shyt like that specially knowin he could get caught....FUCK THE POLICE!!!!!!!!
CG right i dont see him bein that psycho nothin is that important to him to lose his kids over
JM and why is everyone tryin to make it out that sammy is this that and the other no ones lookin at the family which the dude that got killed was in and out of jail too and he did drugs and sold drugs so it could have been anyone...idc Sammy wat any one says my nigga aint do that shyt!!!!!!!!!
Friday at 7:38pm
CG Right^
JM i could never see sammy killin some lil punk over a few dollars or drugs my nigga got cash
CG right i know thats y this shit is so crazy fa real
MP Ive known sosa for a long time and when i seen him on tv today he just looked like he knew it was over like he knew he didnt....he has it in him do i think he did it i dno only he knows for real ive known him longer than both of yall i think he mighta did it but it accidently went too far..and he didnt do it alone the nigga has a heart...but when he gets mad..he goes ham..i dno smh..ima pray for em all..free my nigga
CG right monica i feel u on that one but idk thats y im like damn did he or didnt he its just some crazy ass shit wut the fuck is this world cummin to now a days u really dont know wut to believe
MP And trust them ppl did sumthn to fuck wit him and have him in that mode..trust dude wasnt innocent..
Friday at 7:46pm.
CG right thats wut i was sayin to maranda if he did do it there was a damn good ass reason as to y he done it cuz he just aint gonna do it just to get some money or drugs idk its wack fa real
MP Unless it was sum big boy money he love money or dude got him on sum work
BG i am just saying nobody really knows .,.,.im not saying he did or didnt do it.,,.i am just saying i hope nobody ever dugs up my bacc
yard or i will be in deep shit
HS regardless of who done it nobody desereves to die
JA A lil punk jeremy, for real, thats what Johnny was to you, a lil punk and this sammy character is some kind of God or something..you got life fucked up for real. Sounds like you know as much about Johnny as you do about your boy sammy. you talkin big shit bout something you dont know and when you assume things sometimes you are the one who ends up looking like an ASS..And I am sure that when the truth comes out, that is exactly the position you will be in.....
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* note~ JA is a very recognizable name. His family wrote on the legacy site and his younger brother is in a lot of photos as being really close to johnny.
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JM sammy has been my friend for years now and i can honestly say i do not think he did it and yea that dude johnny was into drugs and in and out of jail too but no one deserves to die just mad at how there doing my homie and if it comes out to be he did do it then my apologies but until hes proven guilty i beleive he didnt do it
JA Furthermore, let Me give you a word of advice My friend..I would'nt call Johnny a lil punk in front of any of My Boys because you see they've known Johnny since they were 4, 5, and 7 years old. Johnny was like a brother to them and son to Me for real...The fact of the matter is that your boy got caught up in some crazy ass shit that is going to cost him his own life when he gets the death penalty. They did not arrest your boy for no reason. I know what evidence they have and when it comes out at trial the evidence will speak for itself..you're boy fucked up believing in others dont you go fucking up believing in your boy.....
JM im sorry jon didnt know u knew him and i was just mad but u kno urself its hard to beleive a friend of urs would do something like that
JA I know and over the years Ive learned that anybody is capable of doing anything..You may think you know somebody then they stab you in your back. Im sure it has happened to you before. One of My best friends Mike Jividen went to prison for murder when he was 18 years old and I would have never believed it myself, but it happened and he has been in prison over 20 years now. Just like I would never think in a million years one of many kids, including you, Ive grown attached to over the years would be murdered like He was. Im not going to have court on facebook, but trust me when I say that the evidence is there and your boy didnt do it by himself. Others will be arrested in the real near future......
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JA And just so you know the truth about Johnny. yes he meddled in drugs just like everybody else does experiments. He has only been to jail once because he too hung out with some people that got him into some shit. and furthermore he didnt do the actual crime but he was there when it happened and he went to jail for it. he hasnt been in and out of jail and thats the only trouble he ever been in with the law...
JA by the way how did you and your brother do tonight. I wanted to go and show suport but things came up and I wasnt able to attend. sorry but I hope you all kicked some ass and represented the Glass to the fullest...
MP I wish i knew what evidence they had like i said sosa looked like he knew he done it and it was over wit...nobody deserves to die even sosa if he did it will be in his mind n weighing on his heart forever living wit what he did and answering to God in the end bcuz he does have a heart and it will hurt him forever he should live with the guilt
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nice find adub !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Holy shit ...
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