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(07-11-2014 03:25 AM)Cutz Wrote:  ...in either case, more info is needed, and harder to procure in child cases I'm sure. To me tho, it just seems like they jumped straight to the worst charges they thought they could stick. I hope it's not the case, but just a gut reaction.

I hope it's not the case either, but it well could be.

When phone cams and texting pics took off, there were cases where really conservative LE tried to prosecute teens (usually male) for sending sexy shots of themselves to each other. There was a lot of public outcry as to the overreach and I haven't seen one of those cases in the media in a long time -- but, maybe that's exactly what's happening here. If so, the public outcry and the media exposure could wind up helping the 17 year-old a lot.

We'll have to wait and see if there's more to the story than what the defense attorney and the boy's aunt have told the media. Teens, defendants' families, and defense attorneys sometimes minimize wrong-doing greatly, as I'm sure you know -- so I never discount that being a possibility, but I don't assume it's a given.

As for age of consent, it could be that the LE and/or prosecutors are using federal statute as a guideline or reference in justifying charges considering VA age of consent is 18 as well.

The PROTECT Act, § 503, makes it a federal crime to make (or possess or post online, etc.) sexy photos or videos that include a person under 18, even if under the relevant state law any activity depicted is legal and even if the photos or videos are made (or possessed or posted, etc.) by the juvenile(s) depicted in them. This essentially establishes a federal age of consent of 18 with respect to being photographed in a sexual context.

I don't disagree with anything you've posted being a possibility, Cutz. Unless we see warrants or court docs (which may be sealed) or the PD or DA decide to provide more info to the public, I'm on the fence.





07-11-2014 08:02 AM
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OKAY, OKAY...DON'T SHOW ME YOUR ERECTION...

Lt. Brian Larkin of the Manassas City police announced yesterday,
“We are not going to pursue it (the erect penis injection/photo).” He said the police planned to allow the search warrant, obtained last week, to expire. He would not say why the decision had been made to abandon the warrant or discuss the reasons for the search.

But, neither the Mansassas PD nor the prosecutors have announced any plan to drop the child pornography charges.

The teen is due back in court on Tuesday. If police didn't find evidence of him distributing photos of the girl (she allegedly sent racy shots of herself to him, according to his defense lawyer) to his football team or posting them on the internet or something like that -- and he didn't send the girl or anyone else porn involving minors other than himself -- I expect to see the case dismissed in the wake of all the negative media exposure.

On a separate but related note, it rubs me the wrong way that it's almost commonplace for minors to be sexting, emailing, and posting sexual electronic images of themselves. I don't object on moral grounds, but instead because at that age I don't think a lot of them have the forethought to consider that what was meant for one person's eyes can end up being seen by literally thousands of eyes and be non-retractable if the original recipient feels like being a dick.

Still, applying laws that were meant to protect minors from others to try to punish them for their own actions is gonna wind up backfiring. We don't know for sure if that's what happened here, but it's happened before and is largely unsupported by the public.





07-11-2014 10:13 PM
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Is that the voice of reason I hear?





07-11-2014 10:47 PM
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(07-11-2014 10:13 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:  (she allegedly sent racy shots of herself to him, according to his defense lawyer)

it rubs me the wrong way that it's almost commonplace for minors to be sexting, emailing, and posting sexual electronic images of themselves. I don't object on moral grounds, but instead because at that age I don't think a lot of them have the forethought to consider that what was meant for one person's eyes can end up being seen by literally thousands of eyes and be non-retractable if the original recipient feels like being a dick.
So, allegedly, she manufactured and dist. child porn. Exactly the can of worms I'm surprised prosecutors opened.

I worked at a HS and the kids sexting thing was very astonishing and unsettling to me. I accidentally found dick pics on a 15 yo. girl's phone while looking at meme's and funny pics. Dudes would try to show me pics of girls. Of course all I can think is 1) this girl is underage, 2) 5050 she goes to this school. Was really disturbing.

Not only is it meant to be "for your eyes only" when it's really not, I also worry that's what young girls think they have to do to make boys like them. 'If you wanna be popular, you have to send naked butt pix to the football team.' Children under the age of 16 shouldn't ever have gotten cell phones. Corruption of a generation.





07-11-2014 11:03 PM
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(07-11-2014 11:03 PM)Cutz Wrote:  So, allegedly, she manufactured and dist. child porn. Exactly the can of worms I'm surprised prosecutors opened.

Unless that alleged picture is one of the reasons that they opened the can of worms? Aside from his erect penis, what else was on the boy's videos and where else did he send them? And, who asked him to stop sending them and why didn't he?

I saw an interview with the boy's aunt, attorney, and court guardian yesterday -- the boy was in the room, but couldn't speak about the case.

STORY AND VIDEO:
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/...00001.html

If they're telling the whole story, won't be surprised if the judge tosses this case outta court on Tuesday (or asks the prosecutors to reduce down to some misdemeanor charge.) Hopefully, we'll learn more after Tuesday's court appearance.

(07-11-2014 11:03 PM)Cutz Wrote:  Not only is it meant to be "for your eyes only" when it's really not, I also worry that's what young girls think they have to do to make boys like them. 'If you wanna be popular, you have to send naked butt pix to the football team.' Children under the age of 16 shouldn't ever have gotten cell phones. Corruption of a generation.

Used to be that HS girls who had sex with anyone other than a committed long-term boyfriend (and, in some places before marriage, period) were largely considered sluts and the girls typically tried to keep it secret. If it was with a girlfriend, the boys were more discreet about having sex; "my girl" kinda thing --- all generally speaking, in my experience.

Back then, there were some girls who slept with boys because they wanted to be liked, rather than for their own pleasure. I'm sure that's still the case. And, now, there are also HS girls who send naked pics to boys in order to be liked, not because they're exhibitionists.

Just like "back then" there are those boys who demand or encourage that kind of thinking and behavior from girls and really won't be interested (for the moment) in the girls who don't put-out or pony-up. Those kind of boys making their way out into the adult world are at least as worrisome to me as the girls who feed them.

Anyway, cell phones, internet and other technology has put a lot of the things at kids' fingertips that weren't at all accessible just a generation ago and I think that plays heavily into the "in-your-face" and "casual" and "game" kind of thinking by some teens, when it comes to sexuality. If parents don't want their kids to view sex and sexuality that way, they need to be engaged and talking to them about sexuality in today's terms. Some parents are all over it, from what I've seen. Other parents are too busy sexting themselves to be bothered.

I don't think cell phones and technology have corrupted a generation, but I do agree that they are contributing factors to a change in societal standards. In 10 years, it might be so commonplace to have naked photos of yourself floating around somewhere (for anyone under 30 ys old) that no one even blinks an eye and there's no real shame attached to it anyway. Is that wrong? IDK.





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(07-12-2014 10:21 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:  In 10 years, it might be so commonplace to have naked photos of yourself floating around somewhere (for anyone under 30 ys old) that no one even blinks an eye and there's no real shame attached to it anyway. Is that wrong? IDK.
Girls, or boys for the matter, that enjoy sharing naked photos can accept the consequences. Not my place to judge. It could be commonplace and acceptable in 10 years, but today it can be scandalous. I'd imagine there'd be casualties during the transition. Just makes me feel bad for the girls that only do it for peer pressure. The same as I feel bad for girls that slept with guys hoping to be popular and ended up pregnant.





07-12-2014 03:15 PM
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Been a lot more than ten years, thats what most of AOL was about back in the day and thats been near ten years ago.
I don't think it will get any more acceptable for your nude photos to b e out there than it is now, probably going to be less so.





07-12-2014 09:52 PM
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I don't understand where you're coming from, Six.

When a behavior becomes more common or more publicly acknowledged, it typically becomes more acceptable by society from decade to decade (not acceptable to "all", but more acceptable to "most").

I remember when only "freaks" used a dating service. Now, internet dating services are the most common way singles meet potential dates.

I remember when it was embarrassing for a lot of parents to admit that their son or daughter was living with his/her significant other without being married. Now, it's not generally considered a big deal and more people of every age seem to consider it practical to test cohabitation compatibility before making a lifetime commitment.

I remember when there was a stigma attached to a girl/woman having a baby out of wedlock -- generally speaking, that's less the case now.

I remember when looking at or watching porn was something most people didn't much acknowledge publicly and was viewed as rather dirty/shameful. Now, porn is mainstream entertainment talked about openly and available at every turn.

Ten years ago, I would have thought it was very weird for a teen boy to take pictures of his erect penis and give them to a teen girl. Twenty years ago, even weirder. I think it's already become more acceptable from decade to decade for people to have nudes floating about; that's evident from the number of people supporting the male teen in the OP case on the grounds that he's just a kid doing what kids do these days.

Nearly 25% of female teens and 20% of male teens send, text, or post nudes or semi-nudes; of which nearly 45% are shared with others (according to FBI stats). Those percentages grow from year to year (and there are now services like Snapchat popping up and kinda catering to that market).

What do you think is going to happen to reverse the trend over the next 10 years, Six?





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(07-12-2014 11:34 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:  Ten years ago, I would have thought it was very weird for a teen boy to take pictures of his erect penis and give them to a teen girl. Twenty years ago, even weirder.
Yeah, back then it was all about the flaccid penis. It was all, "show it before you grow it." Weird how trends change.





07-12-2014 11:42 PM
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(07-12-2014 11:42 PM)Cutz Wrote:  
(07-12-2014 11:34 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:  Ten years ago, I would have thought it was very weird for a teen boy to take pictures of his erect penis and give them to a teen girl. Twenty years ago, even weirder.
Yeah, back then it was all about the flaccid penis. It was all, "show it before you grow it." Weird how trends change.

You're such a stickler.





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I remember thirty years ago if girls were in a group, it was all eww eww, why would we want to see your dick..

Amazing how many girls wanted a peek, or a squeeze, or... when they had you alone though.





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True, now most of them DO want a look.
I blame the internet, and Obama





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(07-13-2014 12:27 AM)crash Wrote:  I remember thirty years ago if girls were in a group, it was all eww eww, why would we want to see your dick..

Amazing how many girls wanted a peek, or a squeeze, or... when they had you alone though.

Who were these "eww, eww" girls who didn't want to ogle or play with your penis in a group setting?

What a buncha prudes!!!

P.s. how did showing a group of girls your dick come up in the first place? Smiley_emoticons_fies





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We've had Members who didn't bat an eye over posting their bared breasts or full body nudes. I have nothing to say against that, I'm all for whatever promotes posting.






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