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The Crying Game / TRANSGENDER DISCUSSION
(10-03-2014, 01:11 AM)username Wrote: Shesus. I suppose forcing him to do anything that doesn't address his diagnosis would be considered cruel and unusual punishment.

I'm all for cruel and unusual punishment in a lot of cases. Next up...transgender prisons.

Well, I haven't heard anything about transgender prisons YET, but...

Chelsea Manning's sex change operation was approved to be footed by the tax payers.

And, today, a federal judge is forcing the California Corrections Dept to foot the bill for a sex change for this murderer:

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U.S. District Judge Jon Tigar in San Francisco ruled that denying the surgery to 51-year-old Michelle-Lael Norsworthy violates her constitutional rights. Her birth name is Jeffrey Bryan Norsworthy.

The ruling marks just the second time nationwide that a judge has issued an injunction directing a state prison system to provide the surgery.

The previous order in a Massachusetts case was overturned last year and is being appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court.

In his ruling in California, Tigar cited testimony that the surgery has actually been performed just once on an inmate, an apparent reference to a person who castrated himself in Texas then was given the surgery out of necessity.

Norsworthy, who was convicted of murder, has lived as a woman since the 1990s and has what Tigar termed severe gender dysphoria - a condition that occurs when people's gender at birth is contrary to the way they identify themselves.

"The weight of the evidence demonstrates that for Norsworthy, the only adequate medical treatment for her gender dysphoria is SRS," Tigar wrote, referring to sex reassignment surgery.


http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me...story.html
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I hope the CA Corrections Dept appeals and this decision gets overturned.

Treat the murderer's condition with meds and therapy -- fine, same as for mentally ill or physically ill prisoners.

But, Jesus Christ, I think gender reassignment therapy is going way too far.

How many upstanding citizens who never murdered anybody would love to be able to afford hormone therapy, counseling, etc...much less sex reassignment surgery? More than a few, that's for sure. Forcing the state to carry out and foot the bill for this sex change is like rewarding Norsworthy for murder, IMO. It's bullshit.
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RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-16-2014, 06:06 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 09-16-2014, 06:10 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-16-2014, 06:18 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 09-16-2014, 06:26 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-16-2014, 07:09 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 09-16-2014, 07:23 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-16-2014, 09:33 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 09-16-2014, 10:00 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by IroningBroad - 09-16-2014, 10:52 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-16-2014, 09:36 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by rothschild - 01-31-2021, 11:49 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 02-01-2021, 07:44 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by rothschild - 02-01-2021, 05:10 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 02-01-2021, 06:37 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by cannongal - 02-02-2021, 01:38 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 02-02-2021, 07:39 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 09-16-2014, 06:37 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by IroningBroad - 09-16-2014, 06:57 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-16-2014, 07:07 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by SIXFOOTERsez - 09-16-2014, 10:15 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 09-16-2014, 07:02 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by ramseycat - 09-16-2014, 07:29 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Maggot - 09-16-2014, 10:08 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 09-16-2014, 10:26 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Maggot - 09-16-2014, 10:46 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by IroningBroad - 09-16-2014, 10:55 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Maggot - 09-16-2014, 11:02 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Cutz - 09-17-2014, 09:41 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-17-2014, 12:45 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by IroningBroad - 09-17-2014, 03:59 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-17-2014, 06:27 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 09-17-2014, 06:46 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Cutz - 09-19-2014, 11:20 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by IroningBroad - 09-19-2014, 04:56 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Cutz - 09-19-2014, 05:07 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by IroningBroad - 09-19-2014, 05:08 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by username - 09-20-2014, 10:58 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Blindgreed1 - 09-19-2014, 05:11 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by IroningBroad - 09-19-2014, 05:31 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by username - 09-17-2014, 04:37 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by FAHQTOO - 09-17-2014, 04:40 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 09-17-2014, 04:47 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-17-2014, 06:48 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 09-17-2014, 06:53 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-17-2014, 07:06 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 09-17-2014, 07:05 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by blueberryhill - 09-17-2014, 07:08 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 09-17-2014, 07:22 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by IroningBroad - 09-17-2014, 07:40 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Cheyne - 09-17-2014, 07:45 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by IroningBroad - 09-17-2014, 07:44 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by blueberryhill - 09-17-2014, 07:45 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 09-17-2014, 07:46 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by blueberryhill - 09-17-2014, 07:59 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 09-17-2014, 08:39 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by blueberryhill - 09-17-2014, 10:29 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 09-17-2014, 11:28 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by blueberryhill - 09-18-2014, 12:31 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by username - 09-18-2014, 01:36 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-18-2014, 02:03 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 09-18-2014, 06:32 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Midwest Spy - 09-18-2014, 10:10 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-18-2014, 12:17 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 09-18-2014, 04:33 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-18-2014, 08:34 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 09-18-2014, 12:21 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-18-2014, 02:12 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 09-18-2014, 03:15 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-18-2014, 08:43 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by IroningBroad - 09-18-2014, 07:03 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 09-18-2014, 07:09 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-18-2014, 08:37 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 09-19-2014, 06:13 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Cutz - 09-19-2014, 11:24 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 09-19-2014, 02:55 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Blindgreed1 - 09-19-2014, 02:58 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-19-2014, 05:03 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by FAHQTOO - 09-18-2014, 07:15 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by IroningBroad - 09-18-2014, 08:08 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-18-2014, 08:38 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 09-18-2014, 09:01 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-18-2014, 10:31 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Carsman - 09-19-2014, 01:13 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 09-19-2014, 11:26 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-19-2014, 12:08 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 09-19-2014, 12:09 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 09-19-2014, 04:07 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Blindgreed1 - 09-19-2014, 04:41 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Blindgreed1 - 09-19-2014, 04:45 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 09-19-2014, 04:50 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 09-19-2014, 04:56 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-19-2014, 05:04 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 09-19-2014, 05:11 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Blindgreed1 - 09-19-2014, 05:16 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Cutz - 09-20-2014, 12:28 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 09-19-2014, 05:22 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Blindgreed1 - 09-19-2014, 05:32 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-19-2014, 06:01 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by IroningBroad - 09-19-2014, 06:13 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 09-20-2014, 10:43 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-20-2014, 12:45 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Midwest Spy - 09-20-2014, 12:48 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Cutz - 09-20-2014, 10:49 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 09-20-2014, 11:29 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by username - 09-20-2014, 11:34 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 09-20-2014, 01:15 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-20-2014, 01:29 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by IroningBroad - 09-20-2014, 06:29 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-20-2014, 07:59 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Carsman - 09-21-2014, 01:42 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-21-2014, 02:23 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Cutz - 09-20-2014, 06:53 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by IroningBroad - 09-20-2014, 06:59 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 09-21-2014, 05:23 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Carsman - 09-21-2014, 09:54 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-21-2014, 01:42 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 09-21-2014, 02:21 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 09-21-2014, 04:48 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by SIXFOOTERsez - 09-21-2014, 06:10 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by FAHQTOO - 09-22-2014, 03:31 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 10-02-2014, 06:17 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 10-02-2014, 07:21 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 10-02-2014, 06:42 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 10-02-2014, 07:13 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 10-02-2014, 08:49 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Cutz - 10-02-2014, 10:57 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by blueberryhill - 10-02-2014, 11:51 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 10-03-2014, 12:09 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by username - 10-03-2014, 01:11 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 04-03-2015, 02:21 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 04-03-2015, 02:24 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 04-03-2015, 03:13 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 04-03-2015, 02:31 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Maggot - 04-03-2015, 04:37 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by FAHQTOO - 04-03-2015, 04:55 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 04-03-2015, 05:45 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Jimbone - 04-03-2015, 07:22 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 04-03-2015, 08:01 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Jimbone - 04-03-2015, 10:08 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 04-03-2015, 11:04 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by aussiefriend - 04-04-2015, 01:58 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 04-04-2015, 12:43 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Donovan - 04-04-2015, 06:37 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 04-04-2015, 08:57 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by blueberryhill - 04-04-2015, 09:05 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Donovan - 04-04-2015, 09:45 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 04-04-2015, 09:53 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 04-04-2015, 10:38 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 04-04-2015, 10:40 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 04-04-2015, 12:02 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by aussiefriend - 04-04-2015, 10:51 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 04-04-2015, 11:03 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by aussiefriend - 04-04-2015, 11:34 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by aussiefriend - 04-04-2015, 01:06 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Donovan - 04-04-2015, 01:09 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 04-04-2015, 01:22 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 04-04-2015, 01:31 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 04-05-2015, 04:46 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 04-04-2015, 01:21 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 04-04-2015, 01:37 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Jimbone - 04-04-2015, 02:20 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 04-04-2015, 02:53 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 04-04-2015, 03:27 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 04-04-2015, 04:09 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 04-04-2015, 04:39 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 04-04-2015, 04:48 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by aussiefriend - 04-04-2015, 08:31 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by blueberryhill - 04-04-2015, 09:24 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Jimbone - 04-04-2015, 10:28 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by blueberryhill - 04-05-2015, 12:44 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 04-05-2015, 04:48 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Jimbone - 04-05-2015, 12:09 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by blueberryhill - 04-05-2015, 04:34 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 04-05-2015, 12:24 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 04-05-2015, 01:25 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 04-05-2015, 05:07 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 04-05-2015, 06:21 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 04-05-2015, 06:32 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 04-05-2015, 06:33 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 04-05-2015, 07:01 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 04-05-2015, 08:27 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 04-06-2015, 12:30 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by aussiefriend - 04-07-2015, 05:36 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Maggot - 04-07-2015, 05:58 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by aussiefriend - 04-07-2015, 06:14 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Maggot - 04-07-2015, 09:44 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by aussiefriend - 04-07-2015, 06:38 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 04-24-2015, 09:28 PM