04-04-2015, 01:09 PM
I think if a person identifies as female, as this woman clearly has for twenty-five years per your OP, then insisting on calling her "HIM" is a passive-aggressive form of prejudice. So is incarcerating her in a men's prison. There are men and women here on this message board who have self-identified by gender. We accept those definitions even though, with one or two notable exceptions, nobody has seen anyone's genitalia on this board.
Put it away, Clang, that was NOT an invitation.
Once in my early days here I argued with HotD under the premise she was a man posting as a woman. Although that was mostly trolling and tongue-in-cheek, it suits this debate as follows: during the course of the argument HotD sent me an actual picture purporting to be her, fully clothed and clearly gender-female.
However, using the criteria evidenced above against the prisoner in question, I by rights should have demanded to see her vagina as the only acceptable proof of gender identity.
Are you prepared to show us your goods, HotD? You can PM me and I will verify you are, once and for all, a woman since that seems to be the accepted form of proof we're all talking about. I will make that sacrifice for the common good. I'm selfless like that.
As for the prisoner in question: if the blurb you found is accurate, she definitely sounds like what I described before, a person who made a horrifically bad drunken decision that killed somebody and fucked her whole life over. Some people believe that's enough reason to throw her away and lose the key. I say again, if that is our intent why not just kill everyone we convict and stop pretending we are a civilized people?
Put it away, Clang, that was NOT an invitation.
Once in my early days here I argued with HotD under the premise she was a man posting as a woman. Although that was mostly trolling and tongue-in-cheek, it suits this debate as follows: during the course of the argument HotD sent me an actual picture purporting to be her, fully clothed and clearly gender-female.
However, using the criteria evidenced above against the prisoner in question, I by rights should have demanded to see her vagina as the only acceptable proof of gender identity.
Are you prepared to show us your goods, HotD? You can PM me and I will verify you are, once and for all, a woman since that seems to be the accepted form of proof we're all talking about. I will make that sacrifice for the common good. I'm selfless like that.
As for the prisoner in question: if the blurb you found is accurate, she definitely sounds like what I described before, a person who made a horrifically bad drunken decision that killed somebody and fucked her whole life over. Some people believe that's enough reason to throw her away and lose the key. I say again, if that is our intent why not just kill everyone we convict and stop pretending we are a civilized people?