The Crying Game / TRANSGENDER DISCUSSION

[blueberryhill]

Just to be clear - you're saying it's a choice and people aren't born that way?

I'm simply saying there is no physiological testing that can confirm it. It is diagnosed only by criteria set in the DSM-5, which is set by the American Psychiatric Association.

There is no 'extra chromosome' marker, born that way test, or other biologic evidence as BBH suggested. Hell, even the DSM-5 diagnostic guidelines make that clear because the evidence or hypotheses correlating are extremely weak at best. She can defend it to her death, I was just looking for the backup to that defense - which as of now, doesn't exist.

Contrary to her claim, it is treated as a psychological disease, not a physiological one.

I have no idea whether people are born with, develop, or just make it up. And neither does anyone else. Sure we all have our opinions about it, but we don't know. Put ten psychiatrists/psychologists in a room with someone and you will likely not get them all to agree on a gender dysphoria diagnosis.

Just like this thread.

Mr. Bone,
You didn't show up for our duel; oh well, I don't like to get up early, either.
I have not kept updated on the issue of gender identity, but I used to watch a program of a Doctor who performed these "sex changes." I know I should have looked up her name. She herself was a male and now she is female and used to operate out of Trinidad, Colorado, but think she may have moved her practice to the West coast somewhere. She had her patients go through at least a year of living as the gender you wanted to be, psychological testing, etc., before the actual surgery. According to her patients, the results, i.e, changing penis into clitoris and vice versa were a specialty of hers and she did a magnificent job....
I decided to look up this subject to see what latest thinking is; I found some info on web site, American Psychological Association. Use this link for some, hopefully, updated info.

www.apa.org/topics/lgbt/transgender.aspx

I will just scream if this link doesn't work...