The Crying Game / TRANSGENDER DISCUSSION

[HairOfTheDog]

I think people's psychologies play a significant role in determining who we truly are and I acknowledge that transgenderism is real. I understand that you don't acknowledge transgenders exist, at least you didn't upthread. And, I don't feel motivated to advise other people on what pronouns they should use when referring to transgender individuals, but I understand that you do. And so on...

With regard to pronoun usage, I was following what I thought was their lead. The Diane Sawyer interview was all male pronouns... did it switch now in Vanity Fair?

You clearly stated that there was no need to refer to Jenner as "she" BECAUSE, you said, Jenner is a man. That's your opinion and that's fine, no need to bullshit about it now.

And yes, it was covered upthread that Jenner was going by "Bruce" and was fine with being referred to as "he" until he officially announced his transition. He also said he didn't care if people messed up and referred to him as "he" afterwards either.

The whole pronoun thing was also discussed upthread when I went back and forth with Donovan for chastising those of us who disagreed with his contention that convicted male murderers who claim to identify as women should always be referred to as "she" and get sex reassignment surgery courtesy of the tax payers.