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The Crying Game / TRANSGENDER DISCUSSION
(12-12-2015, 11:16 PM)blueberryhill Wrote: Re CJ and receiving a "woman"s award.....

I support the transgender community 100%. I think each of us should try to match our brain to our genitalia. CJ has said she is/was seeking voice training so her voice wouldn't be so masculine. I don't understand why she doesn't take female hormones which will soften voice, give her a more feminine look. A true transitional person will seek to change their genitalia....CJ is not taking hormones and she has stated that she will not do the sex change surgery....
I am getting mixed signals from this person and do not think she is all that authentic.

Until she trades her penis for a vagina, she will never know what it feels like to be a woman. In no way can she relate to that in her current state. I do not think she should have won an award meant for a woman......I don't think my opinion has anything to do with discrimination, but don't think she deserved the award. There are many transitioning adults who are not recognized for their actions. To be a true role model for the transgendered population, she needs to do the complete transition. Just my opinion......

I hope no one suggests that it doesn't take hormones or a vagina to truly understand what it is like to be a woman, but putting on a dress, growing your hair, having your Adam's apple removed, having breast implants, does not a woman make.

Transgenders contend that it's impossible to match their brains to their genitalia, and it's painful and inauthentic to keep trying.

So, they change their appearance, lifestyle, and gender identity to match their brains. Many transgenders never have sexual reassignment surgery though. They get the relief and satisfaction they seek without it (or they're unable to have the surgery).

Even if a trans woman has the male genitalia removed and undergoes vaginoplasty, she'll never have a natural vagina or experience female puberty, ovulation, the option of pregnancy and breastfeeding... So, a lot of people would never consider her a woman even if she had the sexual reassignment surgery.

Anyway, I didn't read your view as being discriminatory blueberry. I think what defines somebody as a man or a woman is subjective and probably more consistent within the transgender community and within the non-trans community than across the two. All valid.
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RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-16-2014, 06:06 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 09-16-2014, 06:10 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-16-2014, 06:18 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 09-16-2014, 06:26 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-16-2014, 07:09 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 09-16-2014, 07:23 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-16-2014, 09:33 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 09-16-2014, 10:00 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by IroningBroad - 09-16-2014, 10:52 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-16-2014, 09:36 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by rothschild - 01-31-2021, 11:49 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 02-01-2021, 07:44 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by rothschild - 02-01-2021, 05:10 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 02-01-2021, 06:37 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by cannongal - 02-02-2021, 01:38 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 02-02-2021, 07:39 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 09-16-2014, 06:37 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by IroningBroad - 09-16-2014, 06:57 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-16-2014, 07:07 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by SIXFOOTERsez - 09-16-2014, 10:15 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 09-16-2014, 07:02 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by ramseycat - 09-16-2014, 07:29 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Maggot - 09-16-2014, 10:08 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 09-16-2014, 10:26 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Maggot - 09-16-2014, 10:46 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by IroningBroad - 09-16-2014, 10:55 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Maggot - 09-16-2014, 11:02 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Cutz - 09-17-2014, 09:41 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-17-2014, 12:45 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by IroningBroad - 09-17-2014, 03:59 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-17-2014, 06:27 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 09-17-2014, 06:46 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Cutz - 09-19-2014, 11:20 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by IroningBroad - 09-19-2014, 04:56 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Cutz - 09-19-2014, 05:07 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by IroningBroad - 09-19-2014, 05:08 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by username - 09-20-2014, 10:58 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Blindgreed1 - 09-19-2014, 05:11 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by IroningBroad - 09-19-2014, 05:31 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by username - 09-17-2014, 04:37 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by FAHQTOO - 09-17-2014, 04:40 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 09-17-2014, 04:47 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-17-2014, 06:48 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 09-17-2014, 06:53 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-17-2014, 07:06 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 09-17-2014, 07:05 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by blueberryhill - 09-17-2014, 07:08 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 09-17-2014, 07:22 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by IroningBroad - 09-17-2014, 07:40 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Cheyne - 09-17-2014, 07:45 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by IroningBroad - 09-17-2014, 07:44 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by blueberryhill - 09-17-2014, 07:45 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 09-17-2014, 07:46 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by blueberryhill - 09-17-2014, 07:59 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 09-17-2014, 08:39 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by blueberryhill - 09-17-2014, 10:29 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 09-17-2014, 11:28 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by blueberryhill - 09-18-2014, 12:31 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by username - 09-18-2014, 01:36 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-18-2014, 02:03 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 09-18-2014, 06:32 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Midwest Spy - 09-18-2014, 10:10 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-18-2014, 12:17 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 09-18-2014, 04:33 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-18-2014, 08:34 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 09-18-2014, 12:21 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-18-2014, 02:12 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 09-18-2014, 03:15 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-18-2014, 08:43 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by IroningBroad - 09-18-2014, 07:03 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 09-18-2014, 07:09 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-18-2014, 08:37 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 09-19-2014, 06:13 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Cutz - 09-19-2014, 11:24 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 09-19-2014, 02:55 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Blindgreed1 - 09-19-2014, 02:58 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-19-2014, 05:03 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by FAHQTOO - 09-18-2014, 07:15 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by IroningBroad - 09-18-2014, 08:08 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-18-2014, 08:38 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 09-18-2014, 09:01 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-18-2014, 10:31 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Carsman - 09-19-2014, 01:13 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 09-19-2014, 11:26 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-19-2014, 12:08 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 09-19-2014, 12:09 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 09-19-2014, 04:07 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Blindgreed1 - 09-19-2014, 04:41 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Blindgreed1 - 09-19-2014, 04:45 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 09-19-2014, 04:50 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 09-19-2014, 04:56 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-19-2014, 05:04 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 09-19-2014, 05:11 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Blindgreed1 - 09-19-2014, 05:16 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Cutz - 09-20-2014, 12:28 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 09-19-2014, 05:22 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Blindgreed1 - 09-19-2014, 05:32 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-19-2014, 06:01 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by IroningBroad - 09-19-2014, 06:13 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 09-20-2014, 10:43 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-20-2014, 12:45 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Midwest Spy - 09-20-2014, 12:48 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Cutz - 09-20-2014, 10:49 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 09-20-2014, 11:29 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by username - 09-20-2014, 11:34 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 09-20-2014, 01:15 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-20-2014, 01:29 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by IroningBroad - 09-20-2014, 06:29 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-20-2014, 07:59 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Carsman - 09-21-2014, 01:42 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-21-2014, 02:23 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Cutz - 09-20-2014, 06:53 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by IroningBroad - 09-20-2014, 06:59 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 09-21-2014, 05:23 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Carsman - 09-21-2014, 09:54 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 09-21-2014, 01:42 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 09-21-2014, 02:21 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 09-21-2014, 04:48 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by SIXFOOTERsez - 09-21-2014, 06:10 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by FAHQTOO - 09-22-2014, 03:31 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 10-02-2014, 06:17 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 10-02-2014, 07:21 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 10-02-2014, 06:42 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 10-02-2014, 07:13 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 10-02-2014, 08:49 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Cutz - 10-02-2014, 10:57 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by blueberryhill - 10-02-2014, 11:51 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 10-03-2014, 12:09 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by username - 10-03-2014, 01:11 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 04-03-2015, 02:21 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 04-03-2015, 02:24 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 04-03-2015, 03:13 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 04-03-2015, 02:31 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Maggot - 04-03-2015, 04:37 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by FAHQTOO - 04-03-2015, 04:55 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 04-03-2015, 05:45 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Jimbone - 04-03-2015, 07:22 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 04-03-2015, 08:01 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Jimbone - 04-03-2015, 10:08 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 04-03-2015, 11:04 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by aussiefriend - 04-04-2015, 01:58 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 04-04-2015, 12:43 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Donovan - 04-04-2015, 06:37 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 04-04-2015, 08:57 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by blueberryhill - 04-04-2015, 09:05 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Donovan - 04-04-2015, 09:45 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 04-04-2015, 09:53 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 04-04-2015, 10:38 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 04-04-2015, 10:40 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 04-04-2015, 12:02 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by aussiefriend - 04-04-2015, 10:51 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 04-04-2015, 11:03 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by aussiefriend - 04-04-2015, 11:34 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by aussiefriend - 04-04-2015, 01:06 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Donovan - 04-04-2015, 01:09 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 04-04-2015, 01:22 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 04-04-2015, 01:31 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 04-05-2015, 04:46 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 04-04-2015, 01:21 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 04-04-2015, 01:37 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Jimbone - 04-04-2015, 02:20 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 04-04-2015, 02:53 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 04-04-2015, 03:27 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 04-04-2015, 04:09 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 04-04-2015, 04:39 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 04-04-2015, 04:48 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by aussiefriend - 04-04-2015, 08:31 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by blueberryhill - 04-04-2015, 09:24 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Jimbone - 04-04-2015, 10:28 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by blueberryhill - 04-05-2015, 12:44 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Duchess - 04-05-2015, 04:48 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Jimbone - 04-05-2015, 12:09 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by blueberryhill - 04-05-2015, 04:34 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 04-05-2015, 12:24 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 04-05-2015, 01:25 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 04-05-2015, 05:07 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 04-05-2015, 06:21 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 04-05-2015, 06:32 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 04-05-2015, 06:33 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by Clang McFly - 04-05-2015, 07:01 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by sally - 04-05-2015, 08:27 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 04-06-2015, 12:30 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by aussiefriend - 04-07-2015, 05:36 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Maggot - 04-07-2015, 05:58 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by aussiefriend - 04-07-2015, 06:14 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by Maggot - 04-07-2015, 09:44 AM
RE: The Crying Game - by aussiefriend - 04-07-2015, 06:38 PM
RE: The Crying Game - by HairOfTheDog - 04-24-2015, 09:28 PM
RE: The Crying Game / TRANSGENDER DISCUSSION - by HairOfTheDog - 12-13-2015, 11:47 AM