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THE DEMS PLAN A COMEBACK
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I believe Perez is the one that got the suit against the Black panthers dropped for intimidatingly standing outside the voting stations in Chicago for Obama's second term.






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(02-26-2017 06:56 PM)Duchess Wrote:  Ahahaha! I like his dry sense of humor and can totally hear him saying that in a deadpan manner.

Bernie is always a worthwhile watch and listen, in my opinion. He's direct, on message, and sometimes hilarious (especially when he's on the reverse troll).

I saw him interviewed by Anderson Cooper the other night and agreed with everything he said in the interview below; that hardly ever happens with any politician.

Remember when Trump said during the campaign that "it's gonna be so easy to repeal and replace Obamacare"?

Well, that was obviously a lie or terribly naive. In any case, Trump changed his tune the other day and said something like, "who knew health care could be so complicated?" Considering it's a major issue that's been challenging administrations for decades, the real question is who besides Trump didn't know that? That's the backdrop for the short interview clip below.








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I don't think I've ever heard Bernie laugh before. He always has a frowny face.

How could anyone NOT know how complicated that issue is.

How do other places manage healthcare and America can't? I don't think I've ever looked into that.






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I think Trumps comment on the complicated state of health care was meant to be Snarky.
It is complicated in the US because its been made that way by politicians, insurance companies and fucking lawyers





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(02-28-2017 03:20 PM)Duchess Wrote:  I don't think I've ever heard Bernie laugh before. He always has a frowny face.

How could anyone NOT know how complicated that issue is.

How do other places manage healthcare and America can't? I don't think I've ever looked into that.

In a nutshell, health care is a public service in other developed countries, funded by taxes. That's essentially what some U.S. Democratic politicians mean when they suggest that "single payer" and "a public option" should be part of the U.S. healthcare system. (Trump was an advocate for "single payer" before he ran for president too.)

I like the idea a lot. Lower and middle income Americans shouldn't lose health care coverage when they switch jobs or leave the work force, and American businesses shouldn't have to bear so much employee health-care burden, in my opinion.

In most, if not all, of the other developed countries....... private health care coverage is also available for those who want it and can afford it.

That's a very simplistic and top level answer to the question based on what I've read, heard, and experienced in this business.





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(02-28-2017 03:29 PM)SIXFOOTERsez Wrote:  I think Trumps comment on the complicated state of health care was meant to be Snarky.
It is complicated in the US because its been made that way by politicians, insurance companies and fucking lawyers

Which of his conflicting comments did you interpret as being snarky?

The one he often repeated on the campaign trail, where he said it was gonna be a piece of cake to rip up Obama care on day 1 and replace it with something very special and everyone's gonna love it?

Or, the comment he just made in regards to why he can't keep his promise, seeing that it's a complicated issue after all?





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(02-28-2017 03:20 PM)Duchess Wrote:  

How do other places manage healthcare and America can't? I don't think I've ever looked into that.

just one of the many things you never looked into; couldn't have anything to do with size of population





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Hey Pappy! How 'bout those Republicans. Hehehe






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(03-02-2017 09:58 AM)pyropappy Wrote:  
(02-28-2017 03:20 PM)Duchess Wrote:  

How do other places manage healthcare and America can't? I don't think I've ever looked into that.

just one of the many things you never looked into; couldn't have anything to do with size of population

I'm not following you, pappy.

China has public healthcare and they've got almost 5x the population of the U.S.

India also has public healthcare and a larger population than the U.S.





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America has health care and its very good in fact people come from other countries to be treated here for free.






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(03-02-2017 03:31 PM)Maggot Wrote:  America has health care and its very good in fact people come from other countries to be treated here for free.

And some of them are even legal!






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(03-02-2017 03:31 PM)Maggot Wrote:  America has health care and its very good in fact people come from other countries to be treated here for free.

I don't disagree that the U.S. generally has good healthcare.

The point is that not every American has access to that healthcare like the citizens of many other developed countries.

Fortunately, Obama's ACA helped provide access to millions more Americans; particularly those who couldn't afford health insurance or who couldn't get it because insurers turned down people with pre-existing conditions.

And, yeah, U.S. doctors and medical researchers do work pro-bono on some cases; same as in India, China, and other countries with a public health option available to all their citizens (which is not tied to employment/employer, as is frequently the case in the U.S.).





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Do they need a car? Because there are plenty out there. To drive to their free health care I mean. Who registers "the car"? The state? And gets it inspected and stuff.






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My jibberish translator is on the fritz, Mags.

I don't know what the hell you're trying to say, though I assume you're attempting to associate public healthcare with communism or full-bore socialism, like you have in the past.

If you're seriously asking a question and interested in a response, hit me again with a coherent inquiry.





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