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Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered
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Question: If Ms.Z & Ms.T was supposed to be picked up by Lisa & Johnny around 11, why did he call my mom around 10 at night to get money from her, he would of had to drive 20 mins there and back and showed he had a car available to meet Johnny and Lisa at her house. If they were going to do percocets why would Lisa and Johnny want to drive all the way there to pick them up drive them back to the house just to do free drugs with Mr.Z and Ms.T? why didn't Mr.Z and Ms.T call the cops when she heard something bad had taken place at the very beginning? why did Mr.Z and Ms.T drive 20 mins to the house when they heard what happened on the phone? if they did that it seems to struggle with 2 people in the house, ran sack the house, tie them up and from what I hear very tight with a lot of tape around there arms and legs and search the house for money would have taken longer then 20 mins so by the time Mr.Z and Ms.T got there the killers were still in the house. the neighbors didn't here anyone speed away so these people just walked out of the house with nothing? and drove away all quite.





02-04-2011 10:11 AM
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Unknown, i am making you a member now. so you can PM me when you wish.
as i said a few minutes ago, i have an opinion about this, but will wait for a little more info on certain parties before i express that opinion.






02-04-2011 10:19 AM
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Ladycop,

You're ignoring the one huge indication that implies this was a professional hit: FBI involvement.

If you can come up with one alternative that would cause the feds to get involved, I'd love to hear it.

This was a pro saying loud and clear, "Johnny fucked me. This is what I do to to people who fuck me. This is what I do to the loved ones of the people who fuck me. Don't fuck me."

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02-04-2011 10:20 AM
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there are other criteria for FBI involvement.
and so far, the only person i have heard say the Feds are involved, is Johnny's mother.
no statement from police yet, which is needed badly.






02-04-2011 10:22 AM
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This is likely going to take a while to pan out.

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02-04-2011 10:27 AM
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i think the police know who their suspects are and are waiting for some test results.

the FBI makes itself available to assist local and state authorities in murder investigations upon request when it's superior investigative resources (laboratory analysis, DNA, etc) can be of vital assistance.






02-04-2011 10:29 AM
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This is purely spectating, but if it was a hit how did the killers know the parents were away? cause that seems like the perfect time to do that. how did they show up at the perfect time when they were about to walk out the door? How did they know were johnny was staying with Lisa when I'm sure they wouldn't of be having friends over doing drugs in the straub's house while the parents were there? Johnny only invited Mr.Z and Ms.T over to the house the day before because the parents were out of town. The straubs house isn't a hang out spot. Mr.Z and Ms.T knew the layout of the house from being over there the night before. knew the parents were going to be gone, knew when they were home, were at the scene withing 20-25 mins of taking place. Either they told someone, or did it themselves.





02-04-2011 10:33 AM
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what about the alleged statements Johnny was overheard making while he was on the cell phone?

"Who are you?" "What are you doing here?" "Why are you here?"

Those statements point to him having no idea who the killers were. If Johnny didn't know who the people were, it's even less likely that the cops know by now, or even have suspects.

The combination of the cops not saying anything + nothing being leaked, that points to nobody having any real clue who did this.

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02-04-2011 10:34 AM
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Pinky: what about the alleged statements Johnny was overheard making while he was on the cell phone?


there is only the word of one person ( the mother got it second-hand) who says they heard that.
that person's credibility may be questioned.






02-04-2011 10:37 AM
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Ahh here's the catch to that. I talked to Mr.Z mom and asked her what did Ms.T tell you what happened on the phone call. She states she was talking to johnny about him heading out the door then she hears johnny say Hey bro what are you doing here? In a more serious tone. then hears him say who the fuck are you! she then states they were says something to johnny but couldn't make out who it was andt hen hears johnny yelling and the phone went dead. I asked could you hear anything from Lisa, she said she didn't hear anything from Lisa.





02-04-2011 10:41 AM
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and what about the last part of that post...?

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02-04-2011 10:42 AM
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what do you mean?





02-04-2011 10:45 AM
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the person who was on the phone was a heroin dealer! Yes her credibility is shit! Her Ex-Boyfriend just got out of prison for Robbery. I wouldn't believe anything out of her mouth. Also, she lives with Mr.Z mom. Mr.Z mom told me this a month before the murder. Told me two weeks ago that here son is going thru percocets withdraws and has been stealing from her probley to support the habit since he has no job.





02-04-2011 10:49 AM
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a note here: please do not post anybody's name as a possible suspect until LE says they are. just a caution, thanks. Smiley_emoticons_smile






02-04-2011 10:51 AM
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