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Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered
(03-28-2011, 10:32 PM)shitstorm Wrote:
(03-28-2011, 09:55 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote: [quote='shitstorm' pid='150380' dateline='1301361246']
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I think when pushed everyone would do things that circumstances demand. We call some heros and others criminals. When I see the group of thugery examined as possible suspects I (IMO) think they are capable of murder. And if circumstances escalated to demand that solution I think if a bag were handy, so be it. Some people have no impulse control and it takes little for them to escalate a disagreement into a fight and a fight into murder. The criminal mind blames others for their behaviour thus excusing themselves from the responsibility of their own actions. I think that makes it easier to be unreasonable.

I'm no profiler, and don't know much about the criminal mind, but a sadistic torture killing doesn't seem like a spur of the moment kind of thing to me. I believe I'm in the minority here in thinking that these premeditated murders. I've heard of lots of people being killed in robberies and never heard of torture in one of those cases. I would think that most anyone who would be crazy enough to go into someone's home to rob them of drugs and/or money would certainly be the type of person of person to carry a hand gun. Taking the time and effort to torture two people is beyond the usual robbery getting out of hand.
I also believe it was premeditated. Unless you are a serial killer or rapist,
I just dont see anyone driving out to the suburbs with duct tape and plastic
bags to kill someone, when you can get a gun anywhere anymore, and there are knives in the kitchen, and, in most garages something heavy
enough or big enough to kill with.
Premeditated? I think so.
Johnny and Lisa the targets? I think so.
Were they meant to die? Im really not believing the whole "it was an
accident...a point taken too far" theory. Its too far fetched and way too
CSI for me.
I think what happened is alot more simple than our discussions while waiting
for LE to talk/move have made this into. I would think that the truth
is probably in the earlier theories posted on this forum...back when
everyone was posting their gut feeling, then trying to prove it somehow....
its all the minutae thats got this so far fetched....

You are missed...RIP Lady Cop
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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - by MichelleMarie - 02-05-2011, 01:52 AM
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - by TigersBaseball - 02-17-2011, 11:09 AM
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - by imsuchawildflower - 03-29-2011, 05:50 PM
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - by blackmagic419 - 10-27-2011, 12:47 AM
Revisiting - by koko - 08-25-2019, 03:01 AM
RE: Revisiting - by koko - 08-25-2019, 03:09 AM
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - by hauntedlurker - 05-30-2021, 12:38 AM
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub case part 2 - by loveology11 - 10-10-2011, 02:57 PM
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub case part 2 - by loveology11 - 10-11-2011, 01:52 PM