Presidential race 2016

[Duchess]

I recently read part of a dissertation where a PhD candidate had written that the one thing all Trump supporters have in common are their authoritarian inclinations. As far as I can tell it means they are all sheep.

Here is one of his quotes -

Authoritarianism is not a new, untested concept in the American electorate. Since the rise of Nazi Germany, it has been one of the most widely studied ideas in social science. While its causes are still debated, the political behavior of authoritarians is not. Authoritarians obey. They rally to and follow strong leaders. And they respond aggressively to outsiders, especially when they feel threatened. From pledging to “make America great again” by building a wall on the border to promising to close mosques and ban Muslims from visiting the United States, Trump is playing directly to authoritarian inclinations.

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[username]

Read an article this morning about some Republicans feeling compelled to line up behind Trump for the benefit of the party. I have a cartoon in my head of a giant horse's ass with Palin in a bikini holding a shot gun behind it, Boehner with a box of tissues, Reagan being carried in a casket....

[blueberryhill]

I think he has a shot only because have you seen the rest of the republican nominees? Would you prefer that fat pig Christie or Cruz or the black guy who talks with his eyes closed like he's nodding out on drugs ? They're no better. This is what we have to deal with, lady. Hillary isn't promised anything, although I think she is promised more than any of them and probably will end up with it.

Well, i have already discounted the other guys and one gal....I picture them all piling out of a clown car. They are all ding bats.....but it takes a special idiot to follow Trump....I see such well written, articulate articles about the syndrome of people who follow dumb shits like Duchess said....I don't have the expertise to transfer that good stuff to Mock. I usually wait for Hair to explain it.....so he is the one most discussed and according to the "polls," is ahead......

I think you should vote...I can remember saying, "well, he is the lesser of the two evils, etc.....which is why our country is so divided in 2016...I still don't think Trump will win, if everyone votes.

I will probably vote for Hillary.....there are some things I disagree with her about, but I mostly agree with her platform. It is like a love relationship. Would be nice to find all the qualities you want in one person, but that is rare, so we accept someone, faults and all, because, overall, they have your back. I don't care what she believed 5 years ago as long as she is willing to work for what the people want today.....I am such a strong proponent of women's rights and think she will do the equal pay thing, etc.....It is high time, we pay teachers and nurses (traditionally women's jobs) what they deserve and quit paying them less than their male counterparts......

Well, sorry, I digressed a bit..........I think it is a possibility that Bernie will overtake Hillary in the polls as time progresses. I think he is just now getting his feet wet....and that his campaign will become more organized and sophisticated as time marches on.....

In closing, did anyone see Obama's comment on TV last week, saying it must have been men who implemented a law which taxes tampons as a luxury item.......he did say it as I witnessed this, but i didn't check to see if this tax is legit.....

[Duchess]

Donald Trump quickly pulled a new veteran-focused campaign spot after commenters pointed out that the footage included Russian veterans, not American.

"Our great veterans are being treated terribly," Trump says in the commercial. "The corruption in the Veteran's administration, the incompetence is beyond. We will stop that."

The ad then cuts from Trump sitting at his desk to footage of faceless decorated veterans ... who happen to be Russian.

Oops.

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[Duchess]

Reuters is reporting that Donald Trump said he could stand in the middle of 5^th Avenue and shoot somebody and he still wouldn't lose any supporters. Great, just great.

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[HairOfTheDog]

Reuters is reporting that Donald Trump said he could stand in the middle of 5^th Avenue and shoot somebody and he still wouldn't lose any supporters. Great, just great.

The weird thing is, I don't even think this is another case of Trump fiction. I think this particular claim is probably accurate.

[HairOfTheDog]

As ridiculous as Trump is I think he even thinks Palin is a fucking moron. I could see it on his face while she was talking. She's definitely on the top 10 list of most annoying people in the world, I'd like to just punch her in the face while she's talking.

I just watched ^ Palin's endorsement speech. Jesus Christ, she needs to switch to whatever Carson's popping. Trump definitely has a "make it stop" look on his face all the way through it; hilarious.


^ The SNL spoof is funny, but not as stupid-funny as the real deal.

[Maggot]

Hillary reminds me of an old lady that has a hard time getting her voicemails out of the phone. She could use the stupidity factor in the e-mail caper if she wasn't smarter than everyone else in the world.

[blueberryhill]

Hillary reminds me of an old lady that has a hard time getting her voicemails out of the phone. She could use the stupidity factor in the e-mail caper if she wasn't smarter than everyone else in the world.

Sorry Maggs, but you sound like an old man still harping on what some woman has done in the past. You must let this go; in the overall scheme off things, this matters not. We need to focus on the important stuff....She is not stupid....I just think there are some men who have problem with women in an authority position....e.g. the entire (almost) Congress......
Those old farts have to keep bringing up the same old crap......let's try to move on from here and come together as a Nation Ole' mighty one, with much wisdom, who is your pick for President? I will for sure, not vote for him........Is there any man on Mock who would vote for Hillary?
Probably not.........

[Donovan]

I'm totally voting HRC. Bernie is a good pipe dream, but he's way too strident and self-righteous to get anything done in Washington. Not to mention, his main experience is as the leader of a tiny, mostly rural lily-white northern state. Hillary has been the Secretary of State. And a senator. And an active, integral first lady. She's a smart, dedicated, ruthless, shrewd, canny politician and wants this job worse than any other qualified candidate. That's exactly the kind of qualifications you want for the Presidency. We had a smart pollyanna once, his name was Carter and they ate him alive. In these days we have no room for philosopher kings.

[Maggot]

I might vote for Bernie if the right person was VP Bernie looks like he will have a stroke any second.


Interviewer: Hillary have you seen 13 hours yet?
Hillary: Yes, but I slept through it.

[sally]

I'm feeling the Bern. That would be my first choice.

[blueberryhill]

I'm feeling the Bern. That would be my first choice.

I think he is a likeable guy and really cares for others, but think he does lack experience; sometimes caring is not enough.
I still thinks Hillary has the experience....She can be just as tough as any man and she is smart enough to do what the people want.......well, most of them....I won't take time to list them here, as I am having another very distressing day....I am not trying to hi jack this thread, but how do I deal with a 15 year old girl who is out of control?...and I counseled teens for 19 years and I am at a loss....

[blueberryhill]

P.S.
I am having a glass of wine at 3:42 in the afternoon, that is how stressed I am.......

[Blindgreed1]

P.S.
I am having a glass of wine at 3:42 in the afternoon, that is how stressed I am.......

So is Hillary

[sally]

I thought everyone did that.

[Blindgreed1]

I thought everyone did that.

If they don't, they probably will after the primaries. We're pretty much screwed. There really aren't any great choices to vote on in the primary. Once the primary is over it's up to the electoral college so I really don't see this ending well.

[HairOfTheDog]

I caught most of the Democratic Town Hall last night.

It wasn't really a debate, in that the three candidates weren't on stage together. But, they were asked some similar questions and asked to address their competitors' views and criticisms. I liked the audience questions. I also liked that the fact-check on the candidates' key points came back "True".

My view is that if you want the person with the most executive level experience who is pretty aggressive on foreign relations, but moderate to liberal on social and economic policies, Hillary is the pick. She's more aggressive on Syria, gun control, and such than Obama, but would build or expand on a lot of his policies, including affordable health care.

If you want someone who is truly committed to changing the system and giving more power, opportunity and voice back to the middle and lower income classes and disenfranchised (without fear of reaming the super rich control mongers), Bernie is the man. He's not got executive level experience like Hillary, but he has a hell of a lot of political experience having been a mayor for over a decade, a Congressperson for 20 years, a Senator for 10 years, and serving on congressional budget and veteran's affairs committees -- all as an Independent, without catering to either party.

I think Bernie's much more experience-qualified than any Republican candidate still left in the race, except Kasich. And, he is sincerely committed to major systematic and social reform. And I think Maggot's right that Bernie's attractiveness to voters will depend more on his vice presidential choice than it will for some candidates though. Bernie seems very sharp and spry to me, and not much older than Trump and Hillary. But, to really accomplish some of his key reform goals, he's gonna need more than one term and his VP will need to be able to work bi-partisan and have a stellar ability to influence. In my opinion.

[FAHQTOO]

I caught most of the Democratic Town Hall last night.

It wasn't really a debate, in that the three candidates weren't on stage together. But, they were asked some similar questions and asked to address their competitors' views and criticisms. I liked the audience questions. I also liked that the fact-check on the candidates' key points came back "True".

My view is that if you want the person with the most executive level experience who is pretty aggressive on foreign relations, but moderate to liberal on social and economic policies, Hillary is the pick. She's more aggressive on Syria, gun control, and such than Obama, but would build or expand on a lot of his policies, including affordable health care.

If you want someone who is truly committed to changing the system and giving more power, opportunity and voice back to the middle and lower income classes and disenfranchised (without fear of reaming the super rich control mongers), Bernie is the man. He's not got executive level experience like Hillary, but he has a hell of a lot of political experience having been a mayor for over a decade, a Congressperson for 20 years, a Senator for 10 years, and serving on congressional budget and veteran's affairs committees -- all as an Independent, without catering to either party.

I think Bernie's much more experience-qualified than any Republican candidate still left in the race, except Kasich. And, he is sincerely committed to major systematic and social reform. And I think Maggot's right that Bernie's attractiveness to voters will depend more on his vice presidential choice than it will for some candidates though. Bernie seems very sharp and spry to me, and not much older than Trump and Hillary. But, to really accomplish some of his key reform goals, he's gonna need more than one term and his VP will need to be able to work bi-partisan and have a stellar ability to influence. In my opinion.

I guess you caught the part where the young man asked her about her dishonesty and she babbled on and on about how great it is that the youngsters are getting involved.
No answer for her dishonesty though.
At least she skirted around it instead of lieing about being a liar.
The woman is a complete sociopath.

[Blindgreed1]

I caught most of the Democratic Town Hall last night.

It wasn't really a debate, in that the three candidates weren't on stage together. But, they were asked some similar questions and asked to address their competitors' views and criticisms. I liked the audience questions. I also liked that the fact-check on the candidates' key points came back "True".

My view is that if you want the person with the most executive level experience who is pretty aggressive on foreign relations, but moderate to liberal on social and economic policies, Hillary is the pick. She's more aggressive on Syria, gun control, and such than Obama, but would build or expand on a lot of his policies, including affordable health care.

If you want someone who is truly committed to changing the system and giving more power, opportunity and voice back to the middle and lower income classes and disenfranchised (without fear of reaming the super rich control mongers), Bernie is the man. He's not got executive level experience like Hillary, but he has a hell of a lot of political experience having been a mayor for over a decade, a Congressperson for 20 years, a Senator for 10 years, and serving on congressional budget and veteran's affairs committees -- all as an Independent, without catering to either party.

I think Bernie's much more experience-qualified than any Republican candidate still left in the race, except Kasich. And, he is sincerely committed to major systematic and social reform. And I think Maggot's right that Bernie's attractiveness to voters will depend more on his vice presidential choice than it will for some candidates though. Bernie seems very sharp and spry to me, and not much older than Trump and Hillary. But, to really accomplish some of his key reform goals, he's gonna need more than one term and his VP will need to be able to work bi-partisan and have a stellar ability to influence. In my opinion.

I guess you caught the part where the young man asked her about her dishonesty and she babbled on and on about how great it is that the youngsters are getting involved.
No answer for her dishonesty though.
At least she skirted around it instead of lieing about being a liar.
The woman is a complete sociopath.

Classic non-answer from a professional politician. I think that's the executive level experience HoTD was referring to.