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Presidential race 2016
So far in tonight's primaries and caucuses, Trump and Clinton are smoking their competitors again.

Hillary got over 60% of the Arizona Democratic vote, so she'll get that percentage of the 78 Democratic delegates and Sanders will get the remainder. It's good to see a record number of voters turning out tonight for the Democrats (same for the Republicans).

Arizona is winner-take-all for the Republicans, so Trump snatched up the full 58 delegates.

Cruz is expected to win Utah tonight; Trump scores poorly with Mormons. If Cruz wins over 50% of the Republican vote, he'll take all 40 of the state's Republican delegates.

If Cruz doesn't get more than half the Utah Republican vote, delegates will be distributed proportionally.

If Kasich gets enough votes, he could prevent Cruz from reaching the 50% requirement for winner-take-all in Utah. Kasich got about 10% of the vote in Arizona.
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Do y'all think family members are fair game when candidates are trashin' the opposition? I ask because I just read that Donald is threatening to "spill the beans" on Ted Cruz' wife. He's pissed because a super pac put out a commercial starring his wife in a very provocative pose. I fully expect him to do the same in regards to Bill & Hillary.
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Cruz won all of Utah's delegates last night; Jeb Bush has just endorsed him.

It's surreal watching established Republicans line up behind Cruz, but I guess it makes sense if they consider any option better than Trump, Clinton or Sanders. I think Graham, and Romney, and Bush and all would probably rather get behind Kasich, but he's too far behind Trump and endorsements don't seem to carry as much weight with the public as they used to.

And, Bernie Sanders won in Utah and Idaho last night. He's still far behind in earned delegates, but staying in the game and putting his message out there. He's consistently earning more campaign donations than Clinton from month to month.
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(03-23-2016, 05:55 AM)Duchess Wrote: Do y'all think family members are fair game when candidates are trashin' the opposition? I ask because I just read that Donald is threatening to "spill the beans" on Ted Cruz' wife. He's pissed because a super pac put out a commercial starring his wife in a very provocative pose. I fully expect him to do the same in regards to Bill & Hillary.

I think since Hillary uses Bill's record often in her speeches and campaigning that he's fair play. She's going to have a hard time beating up Trump about his misogynist remarks, of which there are many, because of Bill's past behavior and the allegations against him. I hope she avoids that trap and just focuses on how she's going to advance women's issues.

The anti-Trump PAC's swipe at Trump's wife is different. I think it's low and was probably an attempt to sway evangelicals away from Trump.

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I don't know if that ad succeeded in turning off any religious would-be Trump voters, but think it probably turned on some voters and Trump can make it work to his benefit.

If Trump really has any beans to spill about Cruz's wife in retaliation, I'd be surprised. We already know the woman married Ted Cruz anyway.
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(03-21-2016, 08:44 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:
(03-21-2016, 06:14 PM)Blindgreed1 Wrote:
45 years has passed and the problems are the same, only those same problems are bigger problems now than they were then, and by today's standards this song would never get air play if it was just released because it isn't PC.

I agree that some of the problems today are the same in nature as 45 years ago, on a larger scale.

But, I don't agree at all about that song not being PC enough to get airplay these days.

Listen to the radio and tv -- rap and hip hop lyrics, hard rock lyrics, classic rock lyrics (including protest songs), talk radio/show topics and verbiage......much of it not what I think would qualify as "PC" to those who choose to use that term left and right with little discernment.

That song is actually very PC today and it's tame compared to what's on a lot of the airwaves now (and it still gets play on my local classic rock station).
They wouldn't play it with the words God Damned and fairies. That's a fact. They may play it with those words stricken, but not as it aired previously. Much the same way that the Who's who the fuck are you is stricken where previously it wasn't.
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(03-23-2016, 09:52 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:
(03-23-2016, 05:55 AM)Duchess Wrote: Do y'all think family members are fair game when candidates are trashin' the opposition? I ask because I just read that Donald is threatening to "spill the beans" on Ted Cruz' wife. He's pissed because a super pac put out a commercial starring his wife in a very provocative pose. I fully expect him to do the same in regards to Bill & Hillary.

I think since Hillary uses Bill's record often in her speeches and campaigning that he's fair play. She's going to have a hard time beating up Trump about his misogynist remarks, of which there are many, because of Bill's past behavior and allegations against him. I hope she avoids that trap and just focuses on how she's going to advance women's issues.

The anti-Trump PACs swipe at Trump's wife is different. I think it's low and was probably an attempt to sway evangelicals away from Trump.

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I don't know if that ad succeed in turning off any religious would-be Trump voters, but think it probably turned on some voters and Trump can make it work to his benefit.

If Trump really has any beans to spill about Cruz's wife in retaliation, I'd be surprised. We already know the woman married Ted Cruz anyway.
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I know this woman. She has a restaurant in Catalina which is about a 15 minute drive for me.
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(03-23-2016, 11:00 AM)Blindgreed1 Wrote: They wouldn't play it with the words God Damned and fairies. That's a fact. They may play it with those words stricken, but not as it aired previously. Much the same way that the Who's who the fuck are you is stricken where previously it wasn't.

Alvin Lee 109 wrote those lyrics about what he was seeing and hearing when he and the band were playing a lot in the U.S. -- all the goings-on surrounding the Vietnam War at the time. He was part of the 'make love, not war' movement. The opening verse refers to "dykes and fairies", not "god damned fairies".

Anyway, I've never heard any of Alvin's words be stricken or dubbed when the song is played on the radio today. But, yeah, I've heard the "fuck" scrubbed from Who the Fuck are You, way back when and sometimes still do.
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(03-23-2016, 11:41 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:
(03-23-2016, 11:00 AM)Blindgreed1 Wrote: They wouldn't play it with the words God Damned and fairies. That's a fact. They may play it with those words stricken, but not as it aired previously. Much the same way that the Who's who the fuck are you is stricken where previously it wasn't.

Alvin Lee 109 wrote those lyrics about what he was seeing and hearing when he and the band were playing a lot in the U.S. -- all the goings-on surrounding the Vietnam War at the time. He was part of the 'make love, not war' movement. The opening verse refers to "dykes and fairies", not "god damned fairies".

Anyway, I've never heard any of Alvin's words be stricken or dubbed when the song is played on the radio today. But, yeah, I've heard the "fuck" scrubbed from Who the Fuck are You, way back when and sometimes still do.
Clearly you need to listen a bit closer my dear.
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I could listen to that song or read the lyrics, as penned by Alvin Lee, a million more times with laser focus, Gunnar.

And, still, I'll never hear nor see "god damned fairies" because "god damned' ain't there. That's an indisputable fact.

The 45-year-old lyrics won't change just because you can't simply stand corrected when you're wrong.
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(03-23-2016, 12:06 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: I could listen to that song or read the lyrics, as penned by Alvin Lee, a million more times with laser focus, Gunnar.

And, still, I'll never hear nor see "god damned fairies" because "god damned' ain't there. That's an indisputable fact.

The 45-year-old lyrics won't change just because you can't simply stand corrected when you're wrong.
You should have seen them live. You'd have a better understanding.
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I remember when that song came out and the first album it came out on, I probably still have it and God damned is not in there.
He ain't heavy, he's my brother.
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hah

You're so full of shit and deflective, Gunnar. You can't even acknowledge you're wrong or just move on over something so minor as you mistaking a song's lyrics.

If you're contending that you saw 10 Years After live and Alvin Lee, for some reason, edited his own words for that show..............it still has nothing to do with airplay.

Anyway, that's one of my favorite songs, I loved Alvin Lee, and I know for a fact that he refused to ever play that song live.
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(03-23-2016, 12:25 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: hah

You're so full of shit and deflective, Gunnar. You can't even acknowledge you're wrong or just move on over something so minor as you mistaking a song's lyrics.

If you're contending that you saw 10 Years After live and Alvin Lee, for some reason, edited his own words for that show..............it still has nothing to do with airplay.

Anyway, that's one of my favorite songs, I loved Alvin Lee, and I know for a fact that he refused to ever play that song live.
That's really sweet.
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He was a really sweet guitar player; jazz, rock, roll, blues.... And, he was hot.

Too bad he's dead, or else I'd write to him and ask him to pen a derivative song about you Gunnar.

It would be titled, "I'd Love to Change the Words".
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(03-23-2016, 12:31 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: He was a really sweet guitar player; jazz, rock, roll, blues.... And, he was hot.

Too bad he's dead, or else I'd write to him and ask him to pen a derivative song about you Gunnar.

It would be titled, "I'd Love to Change the Words".
That's really sweet.
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You bet -- I'm as sweet as Tupelo honey alright.

Or, as you'd probably say, "she's as sweet as two pillows of honey."

I hear the "pillows" version is the one Van plays in concert. Smiley_emoticons_smile
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(03-23-2016, 12:53 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: I'm as sweet as Tupelo honey


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(03-23-2016, 12:31 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: He was a really sweet guitar player; jazz, rock, roll, blues.... And, he was hot.

Too bad he's dead, or else I'd write to him and ask him to pen a derivative song about you Gunnar.

It would be titled, "I'd Love to Change the Words".

hah
He ain't heavy, he's my brother.
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(03-23-2016, 12:53 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: You bet -- I'm as sweet as Tupelo honey alright.

Or, as you'd probably say, "she's as sweet as two pillows of honey."

I hear the "pillows" version is the one Van plays in concert. Smiley_emoticons_smile
Is Van hot as well?
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