DPD Chick Wrote:Sinister Wrote:AnonyMoose Wrote:Racking a shotgun says "here is where I am" and says "open fire before I do". Yes, I know this. Which is why I did so from behind the fridge which was near the front door where I lived. I'm not a complete idiot.
Well, maybe about some things I am a total fool......yanno, Moose? exactly. like I'm standing at the top of my stairs in front of the door yelling 'come get me' racking it. ::doh::
Anyone who keeps an unloaded weapon in their home is a fucking idiot. A trigger lock or gun safe if you have children, but an unloaded weapon is about as useful as a fucking 1⁄ 24 scale NASCAR model when it comes to a shootout. Might as well have a bullhorn and yell "I am right here loading my weapon - please shoot in this direction." Wanna know why perps win a lot of shootouts? Stupid victims is why.
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I think the point that was trying to be made was that if you know the person at the door isn't armed, like a Jehovah Witness moron, the sound could just be used as a very effective deterrent or warning when you do NOT want to fire the weapon.
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AnonyMoose Wrote:DPD Chick Wrote:Sinister Wrote:AnonyMoose Wrote:Racking a shotgun says "here is where I am" and says "open fire before I do". Yes, I know this. Which is why I did so from behind the fridge which was near the front door where I lived. I'm not a complete idiot.
Well, maybe about some things I am a total fool......yanno, Moose? exactly. like I'm standing at the top of my stairs in front of the door yelling 'come get me' racking it. ::doh:: Anyone who keeps an unloaded weapon in their home is a fucking idiot. A trigger lock or gun safe if you have children, but an unloaded weapon is about as useful as a fucking 1⁄24 scale NASCAR model when it comes to a shootout. Might as well have a bullhorn and yell "I am right here loading my weapon - please shoot in this direction." Wanna know why perps win a lot of shootouts? Stupid victims is why. my glock is much quieter (and loaded thank you) but the sound of the 20 gauge sound is a deterrent. It's also unloaded because it's also used for hunting purposes all the other hunting weapons are unloaded as well.
Middle Finger Wrote:I think the point that was trying to be made was that if you know the person at the door isn't armed, like a Jehovah Witness moron, the sound could just be used as a very effective deterrent or warning when you do NOT want to fire the weapon. If God Squad is at your door, you don't need a shotgun. If I take my weapon off safe, I am damn fucking sure firing it. The purpose of a sidearm or shotgun is to kill people, not to scare them away. If you want to scare someone, wear a FrankenConch mask.Firearms are for killing. Anyone who does not get that simple fact needs to stay away from firearms.
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AnonyMoose Wrote:Middle Finger Wrote:I think the point that was trying to be made was that if you know the person at the door isn't armed, like a Jehovah Witness moron, the sound could just be used as a very effective deterrent or warning when you do NOT want to fire the weapon. If God Squad is at your door, you don't need a shotgun. that's right just tell them you're catholic
Where did you get the impression that my weapon is ever unloaded, Moose?
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Middle Finger Wrote:I think the point that was trying to be made was that if you know the person at the door isn't armed, like a Jehovah Witness moron, the sound could just be used as a very effective deterrent or warning when you do NOT want to fire the weapon. +1 for not being an imbecile and getting the point.
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AnonyMoose Wrote:If God Squad is at your door, you don't need a shotgun. If I take my weapon off safe, I am damn fucking sure firing it. The purpose of a sidearm or shotgun is to kill people, not to scare them away. If you want to scare someone, wear a FrankenConch mask.Firearms are for killing. Anyone who does not get that simple fact needs to stay away from firearms. That is one of the most idiotic things I've seen you say yet. Firearms (in relation to home use) are meant to be for defensive purposes, not to go on the offense. If it comes off safe you fire it? So I take it you clean your guns while they're loaded with the safety on? Let me know how that works out for ya. And my final question is, with all this talk, have you actually ever had to shoot a person?
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Momster Wrote:I do not answer the door unless you were invited to my home. RUDE
That's me. I have had people say "I stopped by and your car was in the driveway but you didn't answer." Ah yea, that's because I didn't invite you over. If I am not expecting someone, Irarely answer the door. If you are lucky enought to catch me in a good mood, I might. But since I am never in a good mood....
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Middle Finger Wrote:I think the point that was trying to be made was that if you know the person at the door isn't armed, like a Jehovah Witness moron, the sound could just be used as a very effective deterrent or warning when you do NOT want to fire the weapon. Exactly. What the fuck kind of fantasy land does Moose live in that he thinks people need semi-automatic weapons and night vision goggles??? We are talking about the run of the mill idiot that comes to the door selling vacuums or some such shit. Not an all out war in the front yard. Geesh. Moose = ::nuts::
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Sinister Wrote:Duchess Wrote:Yup, unannounced, uninvited...She knows that we always open our home to friends on game day & she does not take the hint that I don't want her here, now I am being forced to be rude, damnit !! When she gets there, call me and get her on the phone. I can explain manners to her in no uncertain terms. "Hey! Fishlips! Phone call for you!"
"But... I like... totally ya know, didn't hear the phone ring"
"OH sorry, that's because I had it on 'mute', here ya go"
"*giggle* Oh! Ok, gee, I wonder who could be calling me? *giggle giggle*"
(enter voice of satan)
"THIS..... IS..... SATAN....."
"Um hello? like who is this? Ya know? Like I totally don't know you!"
....
"I SAID... This Is SATAN... I have a MESSAGE for you from the UNDERWORLD"
"ohmygod! The Underworld? Like, isn't that the club I was supposed to go to last weekend?"
::bang::
Maggot Wrote:AnonyMoose Wrote:DPD Chick Wrote:that is the greatest sound and it does work Racking a shotgun says "here is where I am" and says "open fire before I do".Racking a shotgun puts you in a position of being reactive instead of proactive and takes away your position of control. You are MUCH better off having an already chambered, sound supressed submachine gun and night vision.
I highly recommend each and every person that thinks a hostile condition could happen in their lives read Sun Tzu's The Art of War. Wow! I caint believe someone else has read that book!  Great book on war and tactics. Sun Tzu was a master. I even have it in PDF
Middle Finger Wrote:I think the point that was trying to be made was that if you know the person at the door isn't armed, like a Jehovah Witness moron, the sound could just be used as a very effective deterrent or warning when you do NOT want to fire the weapon. Exactly
AnonyMoose Wrote:If God Squad is at your door, you don't need a shotgun. NEEDING and WANTING are two different things.
I no longer have a shotgun (my husband kept the one we had, and I don't really want it around my son anyway) but it's more FUN to scare the piss out of trespassers while making a point that they won't try to hit you up again.
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AnonyMoose Wrote:Middle Finger Wrote:I think the point that was trying to be made was that if you know the person at the door isn't armed, like a Jehovah Witness moron, the sound could just be used as a very effective deterrent or warning when you do NOT want to fire the weapon. If God Squad is at your door, you don't need a shotgun. If I take my weapon off safe, I am damn fucking sure firing it. The purpose of a sidearm or shotgun is to kill people, not to scare them away. If you want to scare someone, wear a FrankenConch mask.Firearms are for killing. Anyone who does not get that simple fact needs to stay away from firearms.
Let me rephrase that since you took my Jehovah Witness example so literally. I meant if someone is at the door, like a drunken fool late at night, or just someone you don't know but it hanging too long or something, you can use that sound as a warning, or deterrent, or way to scare them without firing. You may not want to actually FIRE your weapon, for one reason or the other, but still want to scare them or let them know you are armed. Sometimes you don't want to actually shoot the dopey trouble-making teenager or adult that needs more incentive to leave.
 
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A dog growling and snapping would be just as good.........or my Mother-in-law.
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[user=33]Maggot[/user] wrote:
Quote:A dog growling and snapping would be just as good.........or my Mother-in-law.
And in my case, one in the same.
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She's has hated me since she came in the house without knocking and caught us fucking on the floor. She couldn't close that door fast enough and the sight of my white ass has hopefully scarred her for life.::b33::
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DPD Chick Wrote:AnonyMoose Wrote:Middle Finger Wrote:I think the point that was trying to be made was that if you know the person at the door isn't armed, like a Jehovah Witness moron, the sound could just be used as a very effective deterrent or warning when you do NOT want to fire the weapon. If God Squad is at your door, you don't need a shotgun. that's right just tell them you're catholic Just train your dogs to urinate on them. And post no-trespassing signs so they can't sue when your dogs turn their pant legsyellow.
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AnonyMoose Wrote:DPD Chick Wrote:AnonyMoose Wrote:Middle Finger Wrote:I think the point that was trying to be made was that if you know the person at the door isn't armed, like a Jehovah Witness moron, the sound could just be used as a very effective deterrent or warning when you do NOT want to fire the weapon. If God Squad is at your door, you don't need a shotgun. that's right just tell them you're catholic Just train your dogs to urinate on them. And post no-trespassing signs so they can't sue when your dogs turn their pant legsyellow.
Sad part Moose is that anyone can sue you for hurting them in any way shape or form while on your property. Tresspassers, burglars or murders or not.
Good thing that goes by state but the retarded state I live in says you can get sued. Example: A burlgar is stupid enough to break a window and come in that way and cuts himself on the glass pretty badly to need stitches and possibly artery repair. The dumb fuck who was too inept to clear the glass out while robbing me CAN sue ME for his injuries.
Example 2: I had a farm. Posted no tresspassing and no hunting all over. Kept the signs updated too. If someone decided to come steal my horses and got hurt by said horse he was stealing, I can get sued and be held liable for having "an attractive nuisance" on the property.
I did manage to get that law changed and now equine related lawsuits are hard to prosecute as long as you have the mandatory government worded sign on your property and for safekeeping I put one on my trailer too.
Forget dog bites. Unless you got a slick lawyer and can prove that the person provoked the dog to bite (or piss on said leg), you're 100% liable off the bat. Especially in states like mine where you have insurance companies with "bad dog lists" and you have one of those 'bad dogs'.
The list of stupidity goes on. I have said out loud many times to many township cops that if anyone is stupid enough to break into my home and my dogs kill them, I have a meat grinder and dogs eat a raw diet now. I will not go to jail for an idiot. He'll just go missing and no parts will be found. I dont think DNA stays useable in dog shit.
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