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(02-10-2011, 10:54 AM)Freshbait78 Wrote: I also want to add that the girl people are quoting today that said she had just seen Johnny hours before, went swimming with days before etc, was just with Tiffany. Tiffany posted pictures of her, this friend people are quoting & 2 males, 11 hours ago.
(My first post so, Hi everyone) I also just seen those photos, and then checked out the young girls page/pictures, which led me to her bf's page/photos. It concerns me that one photo shows a group of guys, and one has a gun in his hands. Also, numerous photos of these guys throwing gang signs. I found it odd that JC Mom is a friend of this person, but LS is not.(to the best of my lurking, JC does not have a fb page) NOT surprising to me, is that T is listed as a friend to many of the hoodlum/gang bangers linked to these people. And how stupid these people are for posting photos of this nature, as well as their drug talk on a public social network!! (although good for investigators... 
I've been following this thread, because it's so close to my home! It makes me nervous that whom ever did this, is still at large. I can't even bring myself to speculate, because I would drive myself crazy trying to figure it out. My father is a retired local Homicide Detective...sure wish he wasn't retired right now, and had some inside insight on the case! Each morning, I log online to check if someone has been arrested in the case. Hopefully soon we'll have answers, for both the families sake, as well as the residents living in this area.
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hello Aileen, welcome to Mock and thanks for posting~~
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Hey there,
I am new to this Forum, and have been following this thread all week. (LadyCop – Very interesting site – much respect for you) I have worked in the legal field for a very long time, my scenarios are just a little different than some have said. I do have a question with regards to Ms. Tiffany's children. Is there a chance that Mr. Johnny Clarke was the father of any of these children? Or was she at all romantically involved with Mr. Clarke? (I understand she has a boyfriend, but a girl with that many children and that many fathers...I think anyone would question this scenario)
My other issue is this, we have only heard of this one girl “Tiffany”. What did this other girl say that actually called the mother? From what I read the mother is hearing “third party” information. I would love to hear what “Tiffany” stated to this girl who actually called the Mom.
AND does anyone else get that the Mom disbelieves Tiffany and questions her judgment?
SORRY for all the questions…I have been reading this thread for days…and I am very intrigued with this case.
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hi LytoMe, welcome to Mock and thankyou very much! 
i will say that i doubt the father was involved with tiffany, but i think he had an affair with the female sherita(sharita) who was a party in the stalking matter with maytee. kind of need a cast program here, but it should come out in discovery. just my personal surmise/opinion.
sorry, it's a little tough to read that font.
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maytee's page:
RIP Johnny Johnnyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ;,,,,,,,(
32 minutes ago
RIP Johnny Love u sweetness comin to see u now ;,,,,,,,( johnnyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
40 minutes ago via iPhone ·
so is she alluding to her own death to see him? what about her other 2 sons? they must be a total mess with this going on. i am afraid the funeral will be real dramarama show, more than the usual grief and sorrow.
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(02-10-2011, 11:45 AM)Lady Cop Wrote: maytee's page:
RIP Johnny Johnnyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ;,,,,,,,(
32 minutes ago
RIP Johnny Love u sweetness comin to see u now ;,,,,,,,( johnnyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
40 minutes ago via iPhone ·
so is she alluding to her own death to see him? what about her other 2 sons? they must be a total mess with this going on. i am afraid the funeral will be real dramarama show, more than the usual grief and sorrow.
Maybe going to the funeral home for last minute arrangements or a pre funeral family showing?
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Is mom's LEGAL name really "Maytee La Cubano Clarke"?
It sounds just a little too "West Side Story".
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Did anyone watch Maytees interview with Jane Velez? I found this statement from her interesting. She stated that everyone always entered the home thru the garage and there was a box where they kept a spare key that the kids would use to enter the house also stating she had seen where it was. My question is.... When she went to the home why didnt they use the key to enter? Give me some feedback after you watch it.
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(02-10-2011, 11:52 AM)concerned Wrote: Did anyone watch Maytees interview with Jane Velez? I found this statement from her interesting. She stated that everyone always entered the home thru the garage and there was a box where they kept a spare key that the kids would use to enter the house also stating she had seen where it was. My question is.... When she went to the home why didnt they use the key to enter? Give me some feedback after you watch it.
perhaps that key was already in the house. the one found under Lisa's body.
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I ragards to T... Well shes been passed around more than the mashed potatoes on Thanksgiving day.... If you know what I mean.
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Another things that is on my mind about that phone call with Tiffany and Johnny.... If she was on the phone with Johnny when he and Lisa were on their way out the door and the attack happened why is their no mention of hearing Lisa screaming? Dont you think a young woman would have started screaming? Odd? IMO this sounds more like an alibi for her. Is it possible Johnny had already picked them up and they were actually at the house when it all came down getting picked up a little later? Just a thought.
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could be Im surprised the reporter didnt ask her.
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It is just a little to quiet here in Toledo. That is giving me some hope that the county is onto something.
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Where did Lisa work and are there security cameras?
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(02-10-2011, 12:03 PM)BlueTiki Wrote: Where did Lisa work and are there security cameras?
She worked at T.G. I. F., not sure about the cameras.
"Three great forces rule the world: stupidity, fear and greed."
- Albert Einstein
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(02-10-2011, 08:54 AM)jash Wrote: THis is NEW INFORMATION I think, The Toledo Blade has an article this morning quoting Jim Verbosky (Lisa's uncle the fire chief)
http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art.../102100302M
Mr. Verbosky states that Lisa was STILL IN HER WORK UNIFORM, that she didn't even have time to change before she was killed and the family has stated that upon coming home, Lisa would ALWAYS immediately change....so IMO the perps were either waiting for them when they got home, or followed them right in the house.
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Very interesting that she was still in her work uniform. I had initially thought when the cops had said that $40 was missing that Johnny or Lisa could have easily taken that money but the whole change jar was missing according to the uncle. Really is possible that the murderers were already in the house when Lisa & Johnny returned.
Also, if Johnny's mom knew there was an available key in the garage why didn't she use it? Did the murders lock the door behind them? Wonder why they closed the garage door? A question I've had; is there a door from the garage that leads outside?
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(02-09-2011, 09:10 PM)TellMeACrimeStory Wrote: Wow great board-checking back in after finding it a few days ago.
My speculations only:
I think Miss T is in on it and the best person to pressure and crack the case so far, but she seems pretty rough so good luck!
Scenario 1: T and/or her boyfriend brags to others about hanging out at Lisa's recently (possibly could have even taken these friends there to play pool/party/bring drugs to a party so they saw the house/value in person) and someone asks if there is a possible score there:drugs and/or high value items for a quick drug/ robbery score. T brags yes and they talk about an easy score since Lisa's parents are out of town and Johnny is on probation so if he gets robbed of drugs, $, etc., he is NOT going to snitch and call the cops if he gets robbed of drugs and will convinve Lisa not to to protect him-she loves him and won't want him to end up back in prison. That will get him behind bars again-any call to the police will get him into trouble again and probation revoked. Plus, he knows better than be labeled a snitch-I think it was supposed to be an easy drug/home invasion gone wrong and THAT is why LE is calling it a robbery gone wrong.
Plan moves ahead and T is brought into it to try to get Johnny and Lisa out of the house to rob it while they leave, unless an alarm code is set/people noticed the home alarm at the pool party/T mentions it and thought it could be set or has no clue if they set it-so T calls Johnny and Lisa with the run to the store excuse to get them to wait so they can ambush Johnny as he leaves and stop the alarm if needed. Another scenario is the killers arrive at the house and see an alarm sign set outside the house/in a window as they sneak up, they call Tiff pissed about this worry and change the scenario on T last min (they were supposed to just break in after Lisa and Johnnny leave until they see the alarm signs) and make Tiffany stall and they can ambush Johnny as he walks out because they are concerned a silent alarm will go off/could have gone off/hidden alarm triggered so they drag him in and make Lisa/Johnny find the alarm documents (possibly dragging her out of the shower without giving her the time to fully dress)to make sure they know the alarm details and a silent alarm has NOT been triggered somewhere-they would not believe Johnny since he did not live there full time and Lisa claiming no alarms were triggered-they need to see the alarm papers for themselves to see what the alarm is set to do-could be why the security documents were out. Could also explain why Lisa was hit in the head-they were trying to force her to admit if she triggered an alarm or knew where trigger buttons were placed in the home if some were there-she lives there full time she would know more than Johnny.Hence, her getting hit and hurt straight out to make sure they got important info from her at the start of the crime.
 Very good. I have been leaning towards the same idea about JC being on probation and NOT being to involve cops, best person to rip off! Although with Lisa and the possibility of pants being up around her neck and possibly being hit in the head, I believe that WAS personal. Leaving her in really disrespectful, compromising position to be found dead in, yeah that was personal! Almost seems like something someone who was jealous of her would do-to sort of take her down a notch, so to speak.JMHO
Tiffany is the one with more answers. Come on, her last boyfriend died during a botched robbery, coincidental? Could be but after hearing her on the 911 tape, she really sounded like the cat who ate the canary!
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(02-10-2011, 11:45 AM)Lady Cop Wrote: maytee's page:
RIP Johnny Johnnyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ;,,,,,,,(
32 minutes ago
RIP Johnny Love u sweetness comin to see u now ;,,,,,,,( johnnyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
40 minutes ago via iPhone ·
so is she alluding to her own death to see him? what about her other 2 sons? they must be a total mess with this going on. i am afraid the funeral will be real dramarama show, more than the usual grief and sorrow.
Oh boy. Fortunately, I have never had to plan a funeral so I'm not sure what is involved, but perhaps she is going to the funeral home? Coming from her it's really hard to know. Hopefully someone is keeping a watchful eye on her!
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Posted on RIP Johnny FB page
"I have something Id like to share with u but I have to send this to and email or private message you! this person wants to stay anonymous!!"
about an hour ago
Why do people do this?? If that's the case then just send a private message!!!! Why put it out there so everyone that frequents the page is left wondering even more what is going on!
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About Corrigan being murdered. So, because Maytee says it was a botched robbery it makes it so?
http://www.connectamarillo.com/news/stor...?id=447820
Quote:TOLEDO, OHIO -- Toledo Police have charged an 18-year-old in the shooting death of a Toledo man early Wednesday morning.
Jonathan Jackson is now in the custody of Toledo Police as he awaits booking into the Lucas County Jail. Police say he shot and killed Donald Corrigan, 20, outside the Arlington Arms Apartment complex in South Toledo around 2:00 a.m. Wednesday. The men were attending a party inside the complex when a fight broke out and spilled out into the street, according to authorities.
Corrigan apparently walked half a block before collapsing. He was pronounced dead at the scene.
Jackson has been charged with one count of Murder. Police have not said if the suspect had a motive in the crime.
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