Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[Lady Cop]

Johnny's wake is from 2 PM to 8 PM today. it's going to be a terrible and sad scene i'm afraid. :(

[doing40thisyear]

thanks...I thought I read it early on and the 1^st thing I thought was...IMO of course...is that Mother Maytee supplied the pills for the pool party. She would get them cheap maybe has script but they can sell for more on the streets for younger crowd. As you can tell this is a business maybe for them to supplement their income. anyway, Mr Z and Ms Tiff dont really have money but they say they do because they want those perc and MS Tiff, being a drug dealer, a chance to make money for her buyers. I dont believe MS Tiff was at that house in the beginning but def was there inside later after it went down as I think MR Z and someone else was and then MS TIFF came later for the alibi's and to crush pills and put them in baggies for sale. JMO...active imagination i guess.

[Duchess]

Can anyone get some video of the circus this afternoon? Yes, I know that question is in VERY poor taste.

[Lady Cop]

New Information: Mr.Z has a polygraph test scheduled for Monday and his mom is trying to lawyer up.

Most welcome LC!

I would like to know what happened on Monday, and if Mr. Z lawyered up?

i know nothing about Z since nothing gets released by LE. except i know he's a minor. IF he took a polygraph, we won't hear about it from LE at this time.
and it appears Unknown has chosen not to speak anymore.

[doing40thisyear]

LADY COP that is not the original post ..I was referring to maybe it was someone else but I read you were removing it, why are making stabbs at me I said I like the site..geesh. I cant find it that original post but you comment if this person has talked to detectives. It make me think you dont want me comment.

[doing40thisyear]

The fools education I am referring to is MS TIFF s

[Freshbait78]

thanks...I thought I read it early on and the 1^st thing I thought was...IMO of course...is that Mother Maytee supplied the pills for the pool party. She would get them cheap maybe has script but they can sell for more on the streets for younger crowd. As you can tell this is a business maybe for them to supplement their income. anyway, Mr Z and Ms Tiff dont really have money but they say they do because they want those perc and MS Tiff, being a drug dealer, a chance to make money for her buyers. I dont believe MS Tiff was at that house in the beginning but def was there inside later after it went down as I think MR Z and someone else was and then MS TIFF came later for the alibi's and to crush pills and put them in baggies for sale. JMO...active imagination i guess.

Makes no sense. Percs are more expensive than cocaine so no need to crush up a more expensive drug to pass off as a less expensive drug (cocaine) A drug dealer would be taking a loss to do that.

[Lady Cop]

LADY COP that is not the original post ..I was referring to maybe it was someone else but I read you were removing it, why are making stabbs at me I said I like the site..geesh. I cant find it that original post but you comment if this person has talked to detectives. It make me think you dont want me comment.

where have i 'stabbed' at you? in fact i just made you a member. i don't think i have. you are free to say anything you like of your opinions. i had no intention of 'stabbing' at you. but i want it made clear i don't delete posts, that is a no-no to me.

all i said is i have NEVER deleted anyone's posts.

see this:
http://mockforums.net/thread-4383.html?h...ting+posts

[Mommabear]

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Can you pull anything up for JC's father and T's bf, A.G?

I can pull up records for what I believe to be both of them. However, I don't know it is them for sure so I won't post it.

Also, A.G. has not been named by the LE or the media. I think that it would be in poor taste to put his record out there. At this time, his only known involvement would be dating Tiffany. If, he gets named and I can find a birthday or another way to verify that these are indeed his records, then I will post.

[Freshbait78]

The fools education I am referring to is MS TIFF s

Pretty confident she's not in school. I realize that she has a community college listed on her FB however I know that alot of people do that & aren't enrolled. She's also not mentioned one single thing about school anywhere on her FB. Apart from that, I actually do attend the college she listed & student loans were just dispersed a couple of days after the murder, which I'm sure she would qualify for. She commented that she didnt have a car on her cousins status last night. If she had just recieved student loans buying a cheap used car wouldn't be a problem.

[doing40thisyear]

THANKS LADY COP...I just cant find that post cuz he clearly goes into that he/she has info about his mother and MR Z mother. They are so many comment and you know I love your site. and I didnt comment for a long time and always enjoyed your comments. I must have taken your comment wrong. As for the comment from fresh bait, maybe your right but i believe that cocaine is more expensive and so is herion than percs. WAY MORE EXPENSIVE, believe me. Also havent you heard that they addicts enjoy snorting the stuff. whether it be in pill form or not. crushes it make it looks like you are getting more. JMO...But I could be way off base here. However, I BELIEVE THIS WAS DRUG RELATED AND the people who killed them didnt have money to pay for the requested drug that they arranged for Johnny to have there. Also r they sure that Johnny actually picked up LISA at TGIF's?

[DCTim]

thanks Kat...so clearly the posts are still here.

No, that wasn't it; I saw those two posts. It may be as LC mentioned, that she edited one of Unknown's earlier posts. It was right at the time when I joined and wished I could've read them.

[Lady Cop]

[quote='Mommabear' pid='126449' dateline='1297401291']
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Can you pull anything up for JC's father and T's bf, A.G?

I can pull up records for what I believe to be both of them. However, I don't know it is them for sure so I won't post it.

Also, A.G. has not been named by the LE or the media. I think that it would be in poor taste to put his record out there. At this time, his only known involvement would be dating Tiffany. If, he gets named and I can find a birthday or another way to verify that these are indeed his records, then I will post.

can you PM or mail me link and/or mugshot? so i'll know it's him? (the father) that would be OK to post. thanks! i'm making you a deputy!

[email protected]. put your username in subject line.

[Midwest Spy]

This is a great thread! I haven't posted anything yet, but felt the need to complement you on a wonderful avatar. I'm always waiting for you to chime in!!

[Lady Cop]

thanks Kat...so clearly the posts are still here.

No, that wasn't it; I saw those two posts. It may be as LC mentioned, that she edited one of Unknown's earlier posts. It was right at the time when I joined and wished I could've read them.

IF i edited one of Unknown's posts (or anyone's) it was due to privacy of innocent person. that is one of very few things that cause me to edit.

[Lady Cop]

This is a great thread! I haven't posted anything yet, but felt the need to complement you on a wonderful avatar. I'm always waiting for you to chime in!!

thanks Spy, and welcome to Mock~~, not sure who you were talking to. so you're not a SECRET agent?

[EastCoastKat]

I would like to talk to ladycop but cant send private messages yet.

when i make you a member you may PM me.
i altered your link, sorry, but i don't want to link to that site.
you may email me at [email protected]

put mock Unknown in subject line.

got your mail and replied, thankyou.

Unknown, as much as your information is appreciated, i am going to say to you i think you need to stop posting things that will attract attention of murderers. as it is, i think you will be subpeonaed. and be sure to tell the authorities anything you know for certain. be honest with them.

DCTim, maybe you thought LC deleted the post when you read that LC altered the url? There were no deleted post. I was here reading right along as these posts were created, and they are the same...LC suggested that Unknown be careful and maybe should stop posting, that's the way I remember it.

[allieayy]

I have been creeping on this forum for days, and decided to put in the little bit that I know..............Alot of her more "tactful" friends didn't want to see her when he was around. And he came around whenever he pleased.

Hi allieayy,
Do you have an opinion about her boyfriend before JC? The one referred to as B.D. And seeing similarities in these 2 guys can you venture an opinion as what draws her to this type?

unfortunately I can't say much on that subject. All I know about her ex is that he is a "psycho" and "stalked Lisa" after they broke up. None of that is fact, just comments from mutual friends of LS and I.

[shitstorm]

hey everyone!! new here. been following other forums on this case. didn't know that this one even existed!!! i tried to read all 119 pages. forget about it!!! i'm not verified yet but i am extended family of Lisa and i am also a local all my life. lisa's showing and funeral were sad. so many beautiful pictures of her. it was weird to see her body in the casket and visions of what they did pop into my mind horrible. the detectives were there mostly to keep psych mom and her posse out.

I've been to the funeral of a murder victim (someone's only child) and it was ghastly.

Something I noticed in all of Lisa's photos was that she was so damn cute. It's just inconceivable that she died like that.

Do you happen to know anything about her relationship with Johnny, like what Lisa's parents thought of him? How about her previous boyfriend?

jeff and marybeth (lisa's parent's) did not like him and they did not like lisa's behavior and recent choices. they had been trying to talk to her to no avail. he was living there to get away from his psycho mom. her previous bf BD broke into Lisa's home to find her and they had a tpo on him

So, you're positive that Johnny did, in fact, live with the Straubs?

This BD guy that you say broke into their home - did he do time in prison? Some people have said that Lisa had another former BF who was recently released from prison and I'm wondering if that's accurate.

How long ago did the break in occur? Do you know anything about it? Was anyone home when it happened; was it to steal something, trash Lisa's room, assault Lisa, etc? Was he prosecuted?

[allieayy]

Allie...Very informative and interesting information. Do you know why E did not press charges against Johnny for allegedly assaulting her? Also, did Lisa's parents know Johnny's background? Do you also know Lisa's ex boyfriend, and if so, what is your opinion on him?

what do you think of the theories that have been batted around?

I cant remember if E actually called the police or not, but im sure she didnt press charges out of respect for Lisa. Even though he's crazy and E didn't talk to Lisa after what happened, i dont think she wanted to cause any more trouble.
As for your other questions, i really am sorry that I don't have much of an answer. I wasn't close with Lisa for a long time prior to her death. The only things I knew of her in the year or so before her death were stories from friends. Several of my best friends grew up with her, and I only knew her from school and through them. I could easily ask about LS's parents opinion of Johnny at work tonight though. E finally returned to work as did one of Lisa's other good friends.
If i can find a respectful way to ask them about it tonight, I will, and I'll let you all know what I find out.