Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[RaisingAPrince]

Thanks for this info Kitty. I am curious if her ex was there or if he was one that wasn't allowed?

i'm not sure about that. there were pics of him there.

I'm fairly stunned about this. Let's see, he had a TRO against him from the family, he alledgedly punched her friend in the stomach, and beat her to where people have claimed on this board that they SAW her beaten, and they have photos of him at the funeral?? Seriously? I see that being wrong on so many levels. The girl lies dead in a casket because of the violence and people she surrounded herself with, and they have pics of her and ANOTHER MAN WHO WAS PHYSICALLY VIOLENT AND STALKING HER at her funeral?? I might be in the minority, but WTF were people thinking? That would be the damn day I would put pics of my daughter and an abusive ex up at her funeral! Jesus. And we wonder why the abuse and degradation of woman continues in this country?? I am really upset that they did that if its true, and please don't post soemthing as trite as "Well, they really loved each other TILL HE BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF HER, they were a great coupld TILL HER PARENTS TOOK OUT A TRO on him for harrassment and trespassing...UGH

You aren't the minority & I'm glad you said something about this, I noticed it too. As I said previously somewhere in this thread I can't see myself condoning any kind of abusive relationship & if the ex BD is as bad as he was made out to be, why allow him at the funeral & put pictures of them up? If he couldn't show her respect in life, I don't see why he'd be allowed to come show respects in death. JMO

I'm not sure I believe all the "rumors" about the ex. JC's mom is one of the ones saying he was an abusive ex, etc. Perhaps they had a rough relationship. Maybe he was abusive, which is NEVER ok, BUT you have to remember they did have a relationship and I'm sure he cared about her. Even if things didn't end well, he's mourning as well. As far as we know, he hasn't caused any problems with this case.

JC's mom isn't the only one who's said that. There has been atleast one poster here who claims to have known or been in LS's inside circle and said that she came to work with bruises. Actually I think the wording was more along the lines of "beat the Hell up" If that's true then remembering that they had a relationship is irrelevant. As far as I'm concerned any caring he may have had for her became null & void the moment he layed hands on her. That's kinda like saying "sorry I beat the shit out of you BUT I love you" No offence but Fuck that! I'm not claiming he had anything to do with the murders, I don't see any tie to him & TW who I DO believe was involved. I just don't understand why you allow someone at your daughters funeral that reportedly hit her or that you had to take a TPO out on. I don't understand that.

"There has been atleast one poster here who claims to have known or been in LS's inside circle and said that she came to work with bruises."

All claims. All I'm saying is there's no proof anywhere that he did in fact beat her. He, just like any other friends she had, is mourning and IMO should be able to pay is respects.

As of now, it's all hearsay. I do not recall seeing the ex having any reports filed against him for hitting her. Correct me if I'm wrong. The TPO doesn't prove to me that he was hitting her, perhaps her parents had an issue with him and didn't want him around? None of us know the true story. I just don't see where it's the worst thing in the world for him to be at her funeral paying his respects.

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Also, if LS's parents had that big of a problem with him, they could have kept him from coming, as they made the services private and as stated by the family, they kept those they didn't want there out.

[sharit]

I'm fairly stunned about this. Let's see, he had a TRO against him from the family, he alledgedly punched her friend in the stomach, and beat her to where people have claimed on this board that they SAW her beaten, and they have photos of him at the funeral?? Seriously? I see that being wrong on so many levels. The girl lies dead in a casket because of the violence and people she surrounded herself with, and they have pics of her and ANOTHER MAN WHO WAS PHYSICALLY VIOLENT AND STALKING HER at her funeral?? I might be in the minority, but WTF were people thinking? That would be the damn day I would put pics of my daughter and an abusive ex up at her funeral! Jesus. And we wonder why the abuse and degradation of woman continues in this country?? I am really upset that they did that if its true, and please don't post soemthing as trite as "Well, they really loved each other TILL HE BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF HER, they were a great coupld TILL HER PARENTS TOOK OUT A TRO on him for harrassment and trespassing...UGH

You aren't the minority & I'm glad you said something about this, I noticed it too. As I said previously somewhere in this thread I can't see myself condoning any kind of abusive relationship & if the ex BD is as bad as he was made out to be, why allow him at the funeral & put pictures of them up? If he couldn't show her respect in life, I don't see why he'd be allowed to come show respects in death. JMO

I'm not sure I believe all the "rumors" about the ex. JC's mom is one of the ones saying he was an abusive ex, etc. Perhaps they had a rough relationship. Maybe he was abusive, which is NEVER ok, BUT you have to remember they did have a relationship and I'm sure he cared about her. Even if things didn't end well, he's mourning as well. As far as we know, he hasn't caused any problems with this case.

JC's mom isn't the only one who's said that. There has been atleast one poster here who claims to have known or been in LS's inside circle and said that she came to work with bruises. Actually I think the wording was more along the lines of "beat the Hell up" If that's true then remembering that they had a relationship is irrelevant. As far as I'm concerned any caring he may have had for her became null & void the moment he layed hands on her. That's kinda like saying "sorry I beat the shit out of you BUT I love you" No offence but Fuck that! I'm not claiming he had anything to do with the murders, I don't see any tie to him & TW who I DO believe was involved. I just don't understand why you allow someone at your daughters funeral that reportedly hit her or that you had to take a TPO out on. I don't understand that.

"There has been atleast one poster here who claims to have known or been in LS's inside circle and said that she came to work with bruises."

All claims. All I'm saying is there's no proof anywhere that he did in fact beat her. He, just like any other friends she had, is mourning and IMO should be able to pay is respects.

As of now, it's all hearsay. I do not recall seeing the ex having any reports filed against him for hitting her. Correct me if I'm wrong. The TPO doesn't prove to me that he was hitting her, perhaps her parents had an issue with him and didn't want him around? None of us know the true story. I just don't see where it's the worst thing in the world for him to be at her funeral paying his respects.

Also, if LS's parents had that big of a problem with him, they could have kept him from coming, as they made the services private and as stated by the family, they kept those they didn't want there out.

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they will not grant a tpo just cause you dont like someone. there has to be a good reason to get that,,so i am thinking since they were granted one it had to been proven and a good reason for it.

[EastCoastKat]

is it just me again, or is the wall at RIP blank?

and no new posts at justice for johnny yet?

http://www.facebook.com/pages/RIP-Johnny...357?v=wall

It's just you. I can see everything. Nothing new of value to report though. The only thing new on RIP JC is Maytees usual ;,,,,( & on the Justice page, Admin posted a screen shot of the comment of Maytees that said she was blocking the Justice page. Admin is attempting to explain why Maytee is no longer on or permitted to post there.

Ditto

[Lady Cop]

is it just me again, or is the wall at RIP blank?

and no new posts at justice for johnny yet?

http://www.facebook.com/pages/RIP-Johnny...357?v=wall

It's just you. I can see everything. Nothing new of value to report though. The only thing new on RIP JC is Maytees usual ;,,,,( & on the Justice page, Admin posted a screen shot of the comment of Maytees that said she was blocking the Justice page. Admin is attempting to explain why Maytee is no longer on or permitted to post there.

haha they hate me!
thanks my dear wicked informants!

[EastCoastKat]

Seems like some people were thinking the same thing you were LC:

Carrie Sautter
The comments that were being made could easily fall into being...
Incite: Encourage or stir up (violent or unlawful behavior) One CAN be arrested for this, so IMO I think it was best that the mod of this page did what he/she did. I feel for ...his mother, and think the families of both victims could benefit from counseling after losing their children in such a heinous way. I also hope the mod here continues to update articles and such to keep all informed and up to date on this case that we ALL so desperately want solved!!

[Lady Cop]

Mock is going down in a few minutes. i can't say for how long....i hope to see you all back here soon!

[TotallyCurious]

I urge you all to be more fair here. WE DO NOT KNOW WHO BEAT
LISA UP. My mother beat me up (usually where it did not show)
in rage. I had a little brother who would kick every time he waked
by. WE HAVE NO IDEA WHO BEAT LISA UP. It could have been
she was in a hen fight. WE CAN NOT BLAME X due to rumor. Please.

(I am not placing ANY blame on anyone, but suggesting it does not
necessarily mean the bruises came from X)

[Duchess]

Mockers, there has been a change in the schedule & Mock is going offline in a few minutes. We'll be back up just as soon as we can. Thanks for your patience!

[EastCoastKat]

oh NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< LOLhehe
bye......bye

[RaisingAPrince]

I urge you all to be more fair here. WE DO NOT KNOW WHO BEAT
LISA UP. My mother beat me up (usually where it did not show)
in rage. I had a little brother who would kick every time he waked
by. WE HAVE NO IDEA WHO BEAT LISA UP. It could have been
she was in a hen fight. WE CAN NOT BLAME X due to rumor. Please.

(I am not placing ANY blame on anyone, but suggesting it does not
necessarily mean the bruises came from X)

Thank you for those comments. I completely agree. For all we know, JC hit Lisa? If he was "known" to punch her friend in the stomach, who knows what went on between him and LS!!

[TotallyCurious]

Good Luck with your transition! Happy Valentines Day! Take some time for yourself and loved ones. :-)

[Lady Cop]

oh NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< LOLhehe
bye......bye

you saw the announcements over last couple days? we are changing servers mostly because of all the new people and this thread! hahahaha i love it!

[EastCoastKat]

I'll be back!! Gotta love this site!!

[TotallyCurious]

1. Were photos of Johnny at the funeral?
2. Were photos of X at the funeral?
3. Do we have proof of TRO?
4. If X were there, then the parents and family had respect and perhaps
forgiveness if necessary.

[Freshbait78]

Apparently we are going down LOL Totally Curious I'll answer your questions when we come back up

[NightOwl]

Johnny's Mother has a candle memorial on the RIP Facebook page along with a Justice Tarot card in the picture.

It is so sad!

It or them need to be found soon!

[TotallyCurious]

That was quick! Great work.

[Jane]

On a related note the Justice for Johnny and Lisa page was pulled from FB. Apparently the person who started it wasn't on the up and up?

Maytee said - "Iam reporting that justice for johnny and lisa page please friends join me how dare this woman think or even imagine wat i feel or can say i want that page gone she just wants a story ;,,,("

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/RIP-Joh...7417605357

what i got from the page (rip johnny and lisa) was that she (person that created it) had lost her child and thought she would create it. where people could pay tribute, but i get the feeling now that she was getting too much angered comment from TIFF's bf AJ and also Maytee was saying some pretty awful comments. I know she lost her son but she was saying some pretty horrible things on that page. It seems like if you dont play by Maytee rules u are cut off. If anyone know how she ( Maytee) must feel is the person who created that page as I thought that person too lost her child to a horrible crime. I mean they all say she (maytee) was nuts even prior to this happening. I guess the person would have had better luck with Maytee if she would have agreed with Maytee facebook comments. Yeah kill them all and their kids and pour acid on them..watch them die...IMO OF COURSE..

YES! I saw all this 'go down'. I can't believe admin let it go on as long as they did! Maytee got pissed off about something, & then blocked the admin, so she couldn't see her posts!!! Maytee's off her rocker, IMO

[TotallyCurious]

Maytee posted this last night on the RIP page. Read it carefully. Well, I am reading into it
probably because it supports my theory.

RIP Johnny If i could go back in time i would not let you go if i could change the past i would trade places with you if i had to choose between life n death i would die for you oh johnny how i wish it was me and not you ;,,,,,( i would die for you jovanny n jake ;,,,,,( lord why????????

[Jane]

I urge you all to be more fair here. WE DO NOT KNOW WHO BEAT
LISA UP. My mother beat me up (usually where it did not show)
in rage. I had a little brother who would kick every time he waked
by. WE HAVE NO IDEA WHO BEAT LISA UP. It could have been
she was in a hen fight. WE CAN NOT BLAME X due to rumor. Please.

(I am not placing ANY blame on anyone, but suggesting it does not
necessarily mean the bruises came from X)

Thank you for those comments. I completely agree. For all we know, JC hit Lisa? If he was "known" to punch her friend in the stomach, who knows what went on between him and LS!!

I must agree with you & RaisingaPrince..