Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[Jane]

I just went thru more posts & pictures on Tiffany's myspace, & after looking at her mother's, I'm disgusted.

How do you find the link to her mother's page, Jane???

see the link, here on page 361, post #5048, & go to comments. 2^nd post down

[Lady Cop]

I just went thru more posts & pictures on Tiffany's myspace, & after looking at her mother's, I'm disgusted.

How do you find the link to her mother's page, Jane???

see the link, here on page 361, post #5048, & go to comments. 2^nd post down

thanks Jane! hmmmmm, who wants to be archivist and collect the links on one post? i will pay you all of Duchess' money. hahahahaha

[ToledoNative]

hey all you new members! post a photo/or mugshot of yourself here if you dare! --------------->

http://mockforums.net/thread-3933.html

WHOA!! Lady Cop, you are bad! That's one tough cookie. Gorgeous!

*blush*
but i have my natural black hair now. i was a lousy fake blonde. hahaha

I liked it. And had I known there were pics of you on here, then I would've known you were not who I thought you might be, lol.

I might post a pic. Not sure yet. I look alot like Lisa does in my avatar pic.

[RJs-Ex]

Snooping around Tiff's Myspace page....found who I believe to be her mom, (or an older woman type close to her)...(I won't link this woman, she hasn't been named.) I noticed this woman posing with Tiff and Donald's baby son, and she also has a photo of drug baggies with white stuff, and what looks to be dark heroin at her newly tattooed feet (says RIP Don/50) The caption reads :"Till my casket drops".
The most interesting part to me however, is something this woman said on her Myspace page. She said- "Blessed Be".
Wasn't this a statement "Tiffany" made here on Mock the other day? Does anyone else recall that statement by TW?

yes, that's her mother, IMO. I saw all those pictures too, but I can't remember if TW said "blessed be" the other night.. someone told her 'god bless', I believe, & I know she posted the same thing back, but I don't know the exact phrase.. wild shit!!

edited to add - she has over 7,000 friends, LOL

Just seems very curious to me that if word is that Tiff is a heroin dealer, kinda makes you wonder about mommy's role in her education about the dealings....considering the pictures of mom's Myspace.
Kinda sad to see all those people's pages.
So much negativity, so much violence, so much death.
Kinda makes my heart hurt.
If anyone happens upon any Blessed Be statement from Tiff's Mock talk, let me know...thanks

oh, I know what you mean I don't have a 'Leave it to Beaver' family, but this shit really is sad, damn!

I almost feel sorry for Tiffany. Just from her mom's pics, you can pretty much get an idea of her home life growing up. You almost couldn't expect her to turn out any other way. Sad.

Before anyone says it, I know there are people who grow up in much worse environments and go on to become productive citizens. I think most people grow up and live what they've always lived, though.

[Countryside_Belle]

I just went thru more posts & pictures on Tiffany's myspace, & after looking at her mother's, I'm disgusted.

How do you find the link to her mother's page, Jane???

Last night Jane and I went to Tiff's Myspace page, looked through her pics and saw one of her mother. The mother had left a comment on Tiff's pic, so if you click on the mom's comment, it takes you to the profile for mommy dearest.:O

[Jane]

I am wondering...have any of you ever seen Lisa's facebook page? It is set to private, unfortunately.

The pics of Johnny and Lisa on the beach together are so sweet. They look so happy together.

I haven't seen it. It's been private, all along, I think

[sharit]

ok lc i have an avatar.cant download any of my own. was able to get 1 from your gallery. could u put some more there to choose from?

[Jane]

I just went thru more posts & pictures on Tiffany's myspace, & after looking at her mother's, I'm disgusted.

How do you find the link to her mother's page, Jane???

Last night Jane and I went to Tiff's Myspace page, looked through her pics and saw one of her mother. The mother had left a comment on Tiff's pic, so if you click on the mom's comment, it takes you to the profile for mommy dearest.:O

good morning! (well, afternoon here)

[Countryside_Belle]

I woke to my kids jumping on me this A.M.- for a split second I thought I was getting "jumped"!
Wonder if we'll hear from LE this week!?
Toldeo Native- very nice photo of the couple. They look so green and happy.

[Lady Cop]

ok lc i have an avatar.cant download any of my own. was able to get 1 from your gallery. could u put some more there to choose from?

i don't do software.

hardware, yes.

you CAN upload your own if it's small.

[EastCoastKat]

Iv'e got to go put a heating pad on my neck!!! I'm not used to sitting in front of a computer this long!!

I don't stay, but I leave the website up, go do housework, feed the dog, cat and bird. I started a potroast for dinner, on top of the stove, real slow cooking, so I can come back and catch up, lol. My daughter called me and she always knows when I'm not quite paying attention on the phone, and she said OMG are you at that website again! Hubby walked past while I was posting and he saw the priest smiley that I put in one my post and said what's that, I said a priest, he said yeah, that's what your gonna need soon, an exorcism if you keep going to that site! Of course he can watch cars going in circles for hours and see's absolutely nothing wrong with that!

[Jane]

No offense but, when I see them I get a mental picture of them thrashing around on the floor in their death throes. Every word I read is brought to life in my vivid imagination.

yes, & I think that's part of the interest, for me, sadly. I don't think it's all 'the cute young couple, murdered', but it's the WAY they were killed. Their last minutes had to be terrifying.

[Jane]

hey all you new members! post a photo/or mugshot of yourself here if you dare! --------------->

http://mockforums.net/thread-3933.html

How cool !!! Love it! I wouldn't have wanted to tangle with you!

[concerned]

No offense but, when I see them I get a mental picture of them thrashing around on the floor in their death throes. Every word I read is brought to life in my vivid imagination.

yes, & I think that's part of the interest, for me, sadly. I don't think it's all 'the cute young couple, murdered', but it's the WAY they were killed. Their last minutes had to be terrifying.

I wonder what else was involved that we dont know about ? I That scares me !!!:O

[Freshbait78]

ok lc i have an avatar.cant download any of my own. was able to get 1 from your gallery. could u put some more there to choose from?

I had the same problem at 1^st. Go to photobucket & type in the searchbox "avatars" then save one to your pc

[TotallyCurious]

How did Who get Where?

If I recall correctly, Johnny picked Lisa up from her job at TGIF.
He was at someone's house or watching a game or swimming, right?
What if he offered a ride to two or three people he knew who said
they needed to to X,Y,Z and he said, "Hey, ride along with me. I
just have to pick up Lisa from Friday's then make a stop at the
house so she can change her clothes, then we can be going on our
way. (Whether it to get beers or Tiff, or whatever.)

My kids would often make pit stops at my house (usually ours, actually)
change clothes, 'grab sweets from the sweet drawer, and raid the
refrigerator. They were quick stops and always nice for me to
connect with them. My kids who had responsible cars and always gas,
were always giving rides to people and I met new kids all the time.
Lots of kids hitched rides with friends.

Suppose the 'newbies' stayed in Lisa's car and then came in, or
came in an then started getting weird?

[ToledoNative]

How did Who get Where?

If I recall correctly, Johnny picked Lisa up from her job at TGIF.
He was at someone's house or watching a game or swimming, right?
What if he offered a ride to two or three people he knew who said
they needed to to X,Y,Z and he said, "Hey, ride along with me. I
just have to pick up Lisa from Friday's then make a stop at the
house so she can change her clothes, then we can be going on our
way. (Whether it to get beers or Tiff, or whatever.)

My kids would often make pit stops at my house (usually ours, actually)
change clothes, 'grab sweets from the sweet drawer, and raid the
refrigerator. They were quick stops and always nice for me to
connect with them. They were always giving rides to people and
I met new kids all the time.

Suppose the 'newbies' stayed in the car and then came in, or
came in an then started getting weird?

He was watching the probowl the night before with a girl named Bre and her man.

This is an interesting theory and, based on time tables, could very well have happened.

[TotallyCurious]

Iv'e got to go put a heating pad on my neck!!! I'm not used to sitting in front of a computer this long!!

I don't stay, but I leave the website up, go do housework, feed the dog, cat and bird. I started a potroast for dinner, on top of the stove, real slow cooking, so I can come back and catch up, lol. My daughter called me and she always knows when I'm not quite paying attention on the phone, and she said OMG are you at that website again! Hubby walked past while I was posting and he saw the priest smiley that I put in one my post and said what's that, I said a priest, he said yeah, that's what your gonna need soon, an exorcism if you keep going to that site! Of course he can watch cars going in circles for hours and see's absolutely nothing wrong with that!

OH, I hope he is not a Jeff Gordon fan, as Jeff just got spun out. Wow,
wish I knew a man (single) who liked those cars going around in circles.
I know them all and my son will call me from work and say, "Mom, I
have a fifty dollar bet on these three questions, asking me who drives
what car, who sponsors or owns another car, etc." He has won some
good money that way. lol You can take the girl out of the country but
not the coutnry out of the girl. OH, wish for country. Go you Nascar niggas.
Does that sound awful or what? ROFL

[Adub]

Many, if not most, garages have remotes. The individuals that murdered Johnny and Lisa could have easily been waiting outside the garage door. As Johnny is walking out into the garage from the house talking to Tiffany he hits the remote and the garage door opens. The rest is history. That is the way I have always seen it.

[TotallyCurious]

Iv'e got to go put a heating pad on my neck!!! I'm not used to sitting in front of a computer this long!!

Hope you got tht bean thing that gets warm in the microwave. LOVE IT.