Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[ToledoNative]

How did Who get Where?

If I recall correctly, Johnny picked Lisa up from her job at TGIF.
He was at someone's house or watching a game or swimming, right?
What if he offered a ride to two or three people he knew who said
they needed to to X,Y,Z and he said, "Hey, ride along with me. I
just have to pick up Lisa from Friday's then make a stop at the
house so she can change her clothes, then we can be going on our
way. (Whether it to get beers or Tiff, or whatever.)

My kids would often make pit stops at my house (usually ours, actually)
change clothes, 'grab sweets from the sweet drawer, and raid the
refrigerator. They were quick stops and always nice for me to
connect with them. They were always giving rides to people and
I met new kids all the time.

Suppose the 'newbies' stayed in the car and then came in, or
came in an then started getting weird?

He was watching the probowl the night before with a girl named Bre and her man.

This is an interesting theory and, based on time tables, could very well have happened.

Johnny had Lisa's car. Does anyone know what kind of car Lisa had? Would it fit many people?

[Jane]

I just went thru more posts & pictures on Tiffany's myspace, & after looking at her mother's, I'm disgusted.

How do you find the link to her mother's page, Jane???

see the link, here on page 361, post #5048, & go to comments. 2^nd post down

thanks Jane! hmmmmm, who wants to be archivist and collect the links on one post? i will pay you all of Duchess' money. hahahahaha

you're welcome! I only did that, because the link wasn't toooooo far back, hahah! I do know about where 'Tiff's answers' start in the thread, though, & a couple of news links..

[Jane]

Iv'e got to go put a heating pad on my neck!!! I'm not used to sitting in front of a computer this long!!

Hope you got tht bean thing that gets warm in the microwave. LOVE IT.

I have one of those. They're great!

[Lady Cop]

here's that sweet photo again. i can't atand looking at those young happy kids at the beach knowing they are in the cold ground and how they suffered. regardless of why. :(
they deserved a chance at life and happiness. like all the kids whose cases i have covered.

[kitty1]

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Hope you got tht bean thing that gets warm in the microwave.  LOVE IT.
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yes!   i do.  i have about 5 of them!  love em! need it today!

[EastCoastKat]

I just went thru more posts & pictures on Tiffany's myspace, & after looking at her mother's, I'm disgusted.

How do you find the link to her mother's page, Jane???

see the link, here on page 361, post #5048, & go to comments. 2^nd post down

You got to love her About Me:
About me:
A Trill Bitch That Dont Play No Games Just Tryin To Maintain And Stay Focused To Make Real Shit Happen!

[purplepegasus]

I woke to my kids jumping on me this A.M.- for a split second I thought I was getting "jumped"!
Wonder if we'll hear from LE this week!?
Toldeo Native- very nice photo of the couple. They look so green and happy.

I went to Tiff's mom's myspace last night and the music took a minute to start and came blaring over my speakers (at almost midnight) and I jumped out of my skin looking for my killer. I always seem to read this forum late at night and sit waiting for someone to come jump me.

[aileen]

Still wondering if anyone here that is extended family to the victims, knows if the tongue incident is true or false??

[ToledoNative]

We can take each theory and twist the minute details to come up with lots of ideas of what exactly happened. I think we all agree that the killers were people Johnny knew or was connected with.

But I am curious, which theory do you all think is correct?

Choices:
1. It was Lisa's ex-boyfriend
2. It was a robbery, looking for drugs and/or safe
3. It was a revenge killing. Johnny messed with someone's money, they are making a statement.
4. It was gang related
5. It has to do with the people who were involved with the robberies Johnny helped commit when he was younger

[kitty1]

I woke to my kids jumping on me this A.M.- for a split second I thought I was getting "jumped"!
Wonder if we'll hear from LE this week!?
Toldeo Native- very nice photo of the couple. They look so green and happy.

I went to Tiff's mom's myspace last night and the music took a minute to start and came blaring over my speakers (at almost midnight) and I jumped out of my skin looking for my killer. I always seem to read this forum late at night and sit waiting for someone to come jump me.

scared the shit out of me too

[Jane]

I woke to my kids jumping on me this A.M.- for a split second I thought I was getting "jumped"!
Wonder if we'll hear from LE this week!?
Toldeo Native- very nice photo of the couple. They look so green and happy.

I wonder the same. I'd hate to think, another week, without some kind of 'break', but I guess this could go on & on, for awhile. (no info) I was wondering if/when the autopsy report might be released.

[kitty1]

Still wondering if anyone here that is extended family to the victims, knows if the tongue incident is true or false??

I haven't heard anything about the tongue or any sexual molestation. It

[ToledoNative]

here's that sweet photo again. i can't atand looking at those young happy kids at the beach knowing they are in the cold ground and how they suffered. regardless of why. :(
they deserved a chance at life and happiness. like all the kids whose cases i have covered.

Thanks, LC.

So sweet. They went on vacation together. They look like they really love each other. I like the one of them walking on the beach, too.

[Jane]

Still wondering if anyone here that is extended family to the victims, knows if the tongue incident is true or false??

I'll bump your question, above. We've heard two rumors of it.

[purplepegasus]

We can take each theory and twist the minute details to come up with lots of ideas of what exactly happened. I think we all agree that the killers were people Johnny knew or was connected with.

But I am curious, which theory do you all think is correct?

Choices:
1. It was Lisa's ex-boyfriend
2. It was a robbery, looking for drugs and/or safe
3. It was a revenge killing. Johnny messed with someone's money, they are making a statement.
4. It was gang related
5. It has to do with the people who were involved with the robberies Johnny helped commit when he was younger

I think 3-5 are reasonable, but IDK that I think Johnny messed with the money, I think it's possible this was revenge against Maytee or even possibly his dad. I think the people are involved in gangs, but isn't directly related to the gang.

[JustSayin...]

I've called everyone I know that lives in Crossgates, Beverly, Harvard, Old Orchard, West Moreland, West Toledo and told them to MOVE!! Can we now get back to the topic?

[Duchess]

i will pay you all of Duchess' money. hahahahaha

[lawheeze]

We can take each theory and twist the minute details to come up with lots of ideas of what exactly happened. I think we all agree that the killers were people Johnny knew or was connected with.

But I am curious, which theory do you all think is correct?

Choices:
1. It was Lisa's ex-boyfriend
2. It was a robbery, looking for drugs and/or safe
3. It was a revenge killing. Johnny messed with someone's money, they are making a statement.
4. It was gang related
5. It has to do with the people who were involved with the robberies Johnny helped commit when he was younger

I'm going with 3 or 5 at the moment. Both are revenge and to me, the bags over the head is a revenge method.

[Jane]

Iv'e got to go put a heating pad on my neck!!! I'm not used to sitting in front of a computer this long!!

I don't stay, but I leave the website up, go do housework, feed the dog, cat and bird. I started a potroast for dinner, on top of the stove, real slow cooking, so I can come back and catch up, lol. My daughter called me and she always knows when I'm not quite paying attention on the phone, and she said OMG are you at that website again! Hubby walked past while I was posting and he saw the priest smiley that I put in one my post and said what's that, I said a priest, he said yeah, that's what your gonna need soon, an exorcism if you keep going to that site! Of course he can watch cars going in circles for hours and see's absolutely nothing wrong with that!

OH, I hope he is not a Jeff Gordon fan, as Jeff just got spun out. Wow,
wish I knew a man (single) who liked those cars going around in circles.
I know them all and my son will call me from work and say, "Mom, I
have a fifty dollar bet on these three questions, asking me who drives
what car, who sponsors or owns another car, etc." He has won some
good money that way. lol You can take the girl out of the country but
not the coutnry out of the girl. OH, wish for country. Go you Nascar niggas.
Does that sound awful or what? ROFL

hahahaha! Tony is MY 'nigga' !!
Got boneless chicken breasts in the crock pot, here!

[EastCoastKat]

Iv'e got to go put a heating pad on my neck!!! I'm not used to sitting in front of a computer this long!!

I don't stay, but I leave the website up, go do housework, feed the dog, cat and bird. I started a potroast for dinner, on top of the stove, real slow cooking, so I can come back and catch up, lol. My daughter called me and she always knows when I'm not quite paying attention on the phone, and she said OMG are you at that website again! Hubby walked past while I was posting and he saw the priest smiley that I put in one my post and said what's that, I said a priest, he said yeah, that's what your gonna need soon, an exorcism if you keep going to that site! Of course he can watch cars going in circles for hours and see's absolutely nothing wrong with that!

OH, I hope he is not a Jeff Gordon fan, as Jeff just got spun out. Wow,
wish I knew a man (single) who liked those cars going around in circles.
I know them all and my son will call me from work and say, "Mom, I
have a fifty dollar bet on these three questions, asking me who drives
what car, who sponsors or owns another car, etc." He has won some
good money that way. lol You can take the girl out of the country but
not the coutnry out of the girl. OH, wish for country. Go you Nascar niggas.
Does that sound awful or what? ROFL

LOL, hys bytch be Tony Stewart!!