Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[Lady Cop]

Storm: Also, can you put that FB link in the private forum link?

do you mean the case links thread? that's not private. it's a sticky in the crime forum, anyone can see it.
the crime forum is no longer private since we changed hosts.

post 241 here:

http://mockforums.net/thread-3953-page-18.html


links:
http://mockforums.net/thread-4892.html

[Freshbait78]

Talked to my brother again today. He says the FBI contacted his boss to get info on a newly former employee. (I won't give the name unless I have permission to) BUT I looked up this person on FB. He's a 20 yr old male, looks like he joined FB at the end of January & right on the top of his FB friends is AG/AP.

FB, was it you has the bartender brother who got that info about rape?


Also, can you put that FB link in the private forum link?

Since you also asked for a way to view R.P. & M.P. on FB I sent you a PM (Sorry I now we aren't suppose to whisper) I feel like I'm talking in some kinda weird code with all these initials LOL Would pig latin be ok?

[shitstorm]

Storm: Also, can you put that FB link in the private forum link?

do you mean the case links thread? that's not private. it's a sticky in the crime forum, anyone can see it.

http://mockforums.net/thread-4892.html

Oh, shit! I put links in there to the peeps on the fringes (VD & B, etc). Sorry! I thought that was your response to my request for the private forum space to share those links.

[Lady Cop]

Storm: Also, can you put that FB link in the private forum link?

do you mean the case links thread? that's not private. it's a sticky in the crime forum, anyone can see it.

http://mockforums.net/thread-4892.html

Oh, shit! I put links in there to the peeps on the fringes (VD & B, etc). Sorry! I thought that was your response to my request for the private forum space to share those links.

i took care of that and PMed you to that effect.
no reason for the links to be private, it's public information.

[EastCoastKat]

It keeps getting asked "Where is Sherita's FB". Obviously not EVERY PERSON has a facebook. IE: LadyCop! I know it's hard for people to believe, but perhaps she doesn't have one?



i've not seen one.

Looks like the minor doesn't have one either.

[ZEROSPHERES]

Talked to my brother again today. He says the FBI contacted his boss to get info on a newly former employee. (I won't give the name unless I have permission to) BUT I looked up this person on FB. He's a 20 yr old male, looks like he joined FB at the end of January & right on the top of his FB friends is AG/AP.

Could that newly former employee and the suspect EastcoastKat refers to below be the same GUY?

(02-20-2011 04:45 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:


1^ST PERSON:
I was told that it is concerning the murder of Lisa and Johnny. I have no idea of what his initials are. I don't believe the neighbors know him personally. From what I was told he knows he's a suspect and has been hiding out. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that if this guy has anything to do with the case they'll find him soon.

[Freshbait78]

Talked to my brother again today. He says the FBI contacted his boss to get info on a newly former employee. (I won't give the name unless I have permission to) BUT I looked up this person on FB. He's a 20 yr old male, looks like he joined FB at the end of January & right on the top of his FB friends is AG/AP.

Could that newly former employee and the suspect EastcoastKat refers to below be the same GUY?

(02-20-2011 04:45 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:


1^ST PERSON:
I was told that it is concerning the murder of Lisa and Johnny. I have no idea of what his initials are. I don't believe the neighbors know him personally. From what I was told he knows he's a suspect and has been hiding out. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that if this guy has anything to do with the case they'll find him soon.

I have no clue if they are one in the same.

[TotallyCurious]

Ok, bear with me here.

1. The Straubs have a three car garage.
2. Presumably the Straub's and Lisa both have cars. (2)
3. If Lisa were to come home to change after work, in cold weather,
it would be likely she would pull into the garage.
4. If Lisa has a common car.......
5. A car similar to it could pull in the driveway behind her car and
the casual observer could think it was Lisa's car.
6. That might be why the car was there and then it wasn't.

Any thoughts?

[ZEROSPHERES]

Talked to my brother again today. He says the FBI contacted his boss to get info on a newly former employee. (I won't give the name unless I have permission to) BUT I looked up this person on FB. He's a 20 yr old male, looks like he joined FB at the end of January & right on the top of his FB friends is AG/AP.

FB, was it you has the bartender brother who got that info about rape?


Also, can you put that FB link in the private forum link?

Since you also asked for a way to view R.P. & M.P. on FB I sent you a PM (Sorry I now we aren't suppose to whisper) I feel like I'm talking in some kinda weird code with all these initials LOL Would pig latin be ok?

Hi Freshbait78,

Could you please PM me with those links.

Thanks zero

[fabulous]

I'm trying to catch up here...wow...it's hard to have a full time job, be a mother and keep up with this thread : )

but...doesn't it ring odd that the security system wires were "cut" and no response from LE or the security system company. I mean what is the point of security system if you can just "cut" the wires and move on with your crime. Even if the wires had been cut a few days earlier...it seems that someone would have responded in some way. I'm also thinking, given that we already know LE "leaks" certain "facts" of the case that aren't necessarily the truth. could this be one of them?

also...I'm sure the neighbors know alot. in a neighborhood like this neighbors know when people come and go and who is here and there. did they see alot of cars, kids in and out. late night visitors the weekend her parents were gone. You'd be surprised at what neighbors know about each other.

and my last thought...for all the people that are wondering why maytee said "holland" but the address is Maumee or Springfield twp ...or vice versa...it's becuase that area of our town is kind of mixing of those three suburbs. that area and that neighborhood especially is where holland and Maumee come together, locals would call is Springfiled Township, but I'm not sure anyone would refer to it as that if you weren't from that area. It's the southwestern suburbs of Toledo.

[onefortheroad]

Looks like the minor doesn't have one either.

If you mean ZB, he has one but it's virtually blank - no posts, no photos, no friends, no joining date, just school, city, sex and language. It either hasn't been used or everything has been deleted, if that's possible.

[TotallyCurious]

Talked to my brother again today. He says the FBI contacted his boss to get info on a newly former employee. (I won't give the name unless I have permission to) BUT I looked up this person on FB. He's a 20 yr old male, looks like he joined FB at the end of January & right on the top of his FB friends is AG/AP.

Could that newly former employee and the suspect EastcoastKat refers to below be the same GUY?

(02-20-2011 04:45 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:


1^ST PERSON:
I was told that it is concerning the murder of Lisa and Johnny. I have no idea of what his initials are. I don't believe the neighbors know him personally. From what I was told he knows he's a suspect and has been hiding out. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that if this guy has anything to do with the case they'll find him soon.

Zero. would this male person who is hiding out have worked with Lisa?
Does any one know if Johnny had a job?

[Lady Cop]

Looks like the minor doesn't have one either.

If you mean ZB, he has one but it's virtually blank - no posts, no photos, no friends, no joining date, just school, city, sex and language. It either hasn't been used or everything has been deleted, if that's possible.

i have it, it works right now, i am saving it for possible future reference.
i'm not PMing it.
not being difficult, just circumspect.

[ZEROSPHERES]

I'm trying to catch up here...wow...it's hard to have a full time job, be a mother and keep up with this thread : )

but...doesn't it ring odd that the security system wires were "cut" and no response from LE or the security system company. I mean what is the point of security system if you can just "cut" the wires and move on with your crime. Even if the wires had been cut a few days earlier...it seems that someone would have responded in some way. I'm also thinking, given that we already know LE "leaks" certain "facts" of the case that aren't necessarily the truth. could this be one of them?

also...I'm sure the neighbors know alot. in a neighborhood like this neighbors know when people come and go and who is here and there. did they see alot of cars, kids in and out. late night visitors the weekend her parents were gone. You'd be surprised at what neighbors know about each other.

and my last thought...for all the people that are wondering why maytee said "holland" but the address is Maumee or Springfield twp ...or vice versa...it's becuase that area of our town is kind of mixing of those three suburbs. that area and that neighborhood especially is where holland and Maumee come together, locals would call is Springfiled Township, but I'm not sure anyone would refer to it as that if you weren't from that area. It's the southwestern suburbs of Toledo.

Your fist thought...LE didn't release that info....it was "unknown".

As a coincidence your second thought..."Unknown" is in the neighborhood and is commenting from obsevations shared with others in that area.
I infer from Unknowns post that Unknown has vital info because of proximity:


- Unknown - 02-04-2011 08:52 AM

I am 100% completely honest with them. Most of my friends say that's my flaw. I'm just brutally honest with everyone whether the person wants to here something else or not and if my credit was to get involved I would have no problems there. I wouldn't be at all nervous to get subpoenaed if it was going to put whoever behind bars. I don't believe I'm a snitch if it was my friend. As for any murders who want to mess w/ me, I have bells on my doors and 12G 4+1 capacity action pump shotgun. I have taken precaution at my house until this is solved.

[ToledoNative]

Some of you are wondering about who to believe - the police or the family - as to whether Lisa's car was parked in the garage or driveway...

The police say garage. It is their job to take careful notes of a crime scene. The family was hysterical at the time. Let's go with what the police say.

Also, I do think it is important to know where the car was parked and if the garage door was open. From all reports, it seems the garage was open, which would make sense if you planned on not being home very long.

[ToledoNative]

Someone posted that the intruders could have already been in the house when Johnny and Lisa got home. That is a possibility. I think it should be considered, but

WHY WOULD LISA'S PARENTS KEEP A HOUSE KEY OUTSIDE AND IN A PLACE WHERE EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT IT????

This is Toledo. People will rob you blind and not think twice about it.

[Jane]

Talked to my brother again today. He says the FBI contacted his boss to get info on a newly former employee. (I won't give the name unless I have permission to) BUT I looked up this person on FB. He's a 20 yr old male, looks like he joined FB at the end of January & right on the top of his FB friends is AG/AP.

Could that newly former employee and the suspect EastcoastKat refers to below be the same GUY?

(02-20-2011 04:45 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:


1^ST PERSON:
I was told that it is concerning the murder of Lisa and Johnny. I have no idea of what his initials are. I don't believe the neighbors know him personally. From what I was told he knows he's a suspect and has been hiding out. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that if this guy has anything to do with the case they'll find him soon.

Zero. would this male person who is hiding out have worked with Lisa?
Does any one know if Johnny had a job?

I tend to think Johnny was not working. I believe Maytee would have said that from the get-go, if he were. Also, where Lisa worked, was released, so if Johnny had a job, it would have been released also. From what I gather he wasn't actually GOING to 'barber school' ... I've read, more than one comment , that he was going to "start" barber school. I remember thinking, he hadn't actually started yet ..

[ZEROSPHERES]

Talked to my brother again today. He says the FBI contacted his boss to get info on a newly former employee. (I won't give the name unless I have permission to) BUT I looked up this person on FB. He's a 20 yr old male, looks like he joined FB at the end of January & right on the top of his FB friends is AG/AP.

Could that newly former employee and the suspect EastcoastKat refers to below be the same GUY?


To: TotallyCurious

I post here the previous entry. Its vague and gathered from another bulletin board and cannot be tested for its veracity....but I would answer your question as Its entorely possible....


(02-20-2011 04:45 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:


1^ST PERSON:
I was told that it is concerning the murder of Lisa and Johnny. I have no idea of what his initials are. I don't believe the neighbors know him personally. From what I was told he knows he's a suspect and has been hiding out. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that if this guy has anything to do with the case they'll find him soon.

Zero. would this male person who is hiding out have worked with Lisa?
Does any one know if Johnny had a job?

- EastCoastKat - 02-20-2011 04:45 PM

This was posted at another site I go to for updates:
TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH!

1^ST. PERSON:
I was just told to be careful and to keep my doors locked because the police have a suspect that lives a few streets away. They questioned the neighbors as to when they last

saw him and said he is a suspect in a double homicide. They have been there several times to arrest him and he has not been home. I can't believe this! I was just told to be

careful and keep my doors locked 2 weeks ago because there was a murder suspect a few streets away. The next thing I knew the area was swarming with undercover agents

and dogs..... They arrested the man that shot and killed his boss from that fork lift company that very evening!

2N PERSON:
sounds like you need to move

1^ST PERSON:
Believe me the thought has crossed my mind more than once. I've lived here for four years and during this time it's been very peaceful. It's just been the last few weeks that it's

gotten a little crazy. Someone busted the neighbors door in a few weeks ago at 8 in the evening. I heard the noise. It sounded like a car crash it was so loud. She was in

bed(she has to get up early) and came out yelling "What the hell" It scared them and they took off.. She doesn't own any modern eletronics and has a 15 yr old tv. She said

she's going to put a sign up that says if you want my tv just ask... Don't break my door. How Sad!!!

2^ND PERSON:
Adding. if you're referring to the suspect in the Clarke, Straub murders, what are the initials of the suspect in question, if you don't mind my asking?

1^ST PERSON:
I was told that it is concerning the murder of Lisa and Johnny. I have no idea of what his initials are. I don't believe the neighbors know him personally. From what I was told

he knows he's a suspect and has been hiding out. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that if this guy has anything to do with the case they'll find him soon.

[ToledoNative]

Someone said the case might be going cold...NO WAY.

Look at this amazing case. The police have their work cut out for them, having to look at all these different shady people that Johnny and Lisa knew. Including Johnny's parents.

The police know what they are doing and they will catch the killers. I have absolutely no doubt. If I had to guess what the hold up with making an arrest is...

It is that LE is just waiting for their DNA, etc. test results to come back. Once they have that, somebody is going to fry. And I, for one, can't wait.

[TotallyCurious]

Talked to my brother again today. He says the FBI contacted his boss to get info on a newly former employee. (I won't give the name unless I have permission to) BUT I looked up this person on FB. He's a 20 yr old male, looks like he joined FB at the end of January & right on the top of his FB friends is AG/AP.

Could that newly former employee and the suspect EastcoastKat refers to below be the same GUY?

(02-20-2011 04:45 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:


1^ST PERSON:
I was told that it is concerning the murder of Lisa and Johnny. I have no idea of what his initials are. I don't believe the neighbors know him personally. From what I was told he knows he's a suspect and has been hiding out. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that if this guy has anything to do with the case they'll find him soon.

Zero. would this male person who is hiding out have worked with Lisa?
Does any one know if Johnny had a job?

I tend to think Johnny was not working. I believe Maytee would have said that from the get-go, if he were. Also, where Lisa worked, was released, so if Johnny had a job, it would have been released also. From what I gather he wasn't actually GOING to 'barber school' ... I've read, more than one comment , that he was going to "start" barber school. I remember thinking, he hadn't actually started yet ..

Thanks for the answers.