Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[lawheeze]

I'm with you Sharit. If Maytee had read through here she would see that not everyone was talking shit about her or Johnny. I was one. I've had NOTHING but sympathy for the lady. I was giving everything a pass. At this point I'm over it & it has nothing to do with her wishing for people to choke on shit & everything to do with her acting like this is a game to her now. She sounds like a NEENER NEENER NEEEENER little child.

I don't think there is any gradation for her between her desired level of Maytee and Johnny worship on the one hand and evil demons on the other hand. You are either for her or against her, and the fact that there is even one person here who is not her worshipper spoils the whole forum for her.

[imsuchawildflower]

I know this might be an odd angle, but has anyone thought that maybe a jealous ex GIRLFRIEND could have planned this? It seems Johnny's women are very possessive of him. It seems like there has been more than one girl posting different places that seemed to think they were supposed to spend their lives together. I know it's probably not likely but maybe they found someone willing to seek revenge for them.....torture Lisa in front of Johnny and if I can't have him nobody can type of deal?

Hispanic women, generally, are VERY possessive of their men...and the men
their women.

Well, John Sr. is not hispanic and Maytee is RUNNIN' THANGS! lol

Possessive isnt being the boss.
No doubt the women run the show.

[BellaMia]

I can not imagine how the Straubs must feel when that LE said
that it was provoked by the victims. That is about as mean a
thing to say as I can recall coming from LE.

I wouldn't be surprised if they voice their opinions about that comment...not publicly per say, but to whom made the comment. But something tells me, they'll wait until the case is cracked, and then speak their minds to make sure their daughters character was not discredited.

I wonder if the Straub family and The Vasquez-Clarke families relationship has changed due to Maytee being using the media and internet to grieve and lash out

Straubs wanted distance before all this

I did not know that. Is there a story behind it? If so please tell. I am curious now to the relationship between them.

[imsuchawildflower]

Police detectives do lie. And they snitch. After experiencing this in a situation with one of my own, I conjured up the word pig. And then I laid into my daughter for being so fucking naive.

I feel that the police are the "Thin Blue Line" standing between "us" and Anarchy. The more we constrict their ability to act in our best interests the closer we get to Anarchy.

The police are no one's friend and trust me, they do not act in our own best interests.

well isnt that the biggest crock of shit Ive ever read...

[eye.of.my]

UGH!! WILL SOMEONE JUST TELL US SOMETHING ALLREADY ITS KILLING ME!!! STREET TALK IS THEY ARE LOOKING FOR THE OWNERS OF THE DNA LE SAYS NOTHING...PURE TORTURE

[Sincere]

UGH!! WILL SOMEONE JUST TELL US SOMETHING ALLREADY ITS KILLING ME!!! STREET TALK IS THEY ARE LOOKING FOR THE OWNERS OF THE DNA LE SAYS NOTHING...PURE TORTURE

They could be looking for the owners of the DNA forever , if they don't already have a DNA match on file . Am I correct here ????

[ZEROSPHERES]

I can not imagine how the Straubs must feel when that LE said
that it was provoked by the victims. That is about as mean a
thing to say as I can recall coming from LE.

I wouldn't be surprised if they voice their opinions about that comment...not publicly per say, but to whom made the comment. But something tells me, they'll wait until the case is cracked, and then speak their minds to make sure their daughters character was not discredited.

I wonder if the Straub family and The Vasquez-Clarke families relationship has changed due to Maytee being using the media and internet to grieve and lash out

Straubs wanted distance before all this

I did not know that. Is there a story behind it? If so please tell. I am curious now to the relationship between them.

I Quote an earlier post:

- seasontickets - 02-22-2011 12:49 PM

I've been reading for a while and have decided to post a comment. An associate of mine who is close friends with the Straub family said that they (the Straubs) were at their wits end with Lisa and that they allowed Johnny to stay at their house because it would be easier for them to keep an eye on their daughter. I was also told that Maytee tried to get money from the Straubs in some elaborate scheme months before the murders. Also, a friend of mine who works in the restaurant business says some of the cooks (who purchased drugs from Johnny) were talking about how Johnny owed a lot of money (she didn't specify) for pills and cocaine. While obviously this is just heresay at this point, it is something to consider.

[imsuchawildflower]

Sorry, birthdate should read 1954. Typo. Retired. Ahhhhhhh.[/b]



that's some typo! date and age! wow!

Damn Cops you just can't sneak shit past them.

Pardon me LC while I reply to PIG Boy.


Pride
Integrity
Guts

Here is your pig for you shitbird.

Geez not another dick in the house.
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Nah, Im pretty sure you are the only one.

[eye.of.my]

UGH!! WILL SOMEONE JUST TELL US SOMETHING ALLREADY ITS KILLING ME!!! STREET TALK IS THEY ARE LOOKING FOR THE OWNERS OF THE DNA LE SAYS NOTHING...PURE TORTURE

They could be looking for the owners of the DNA forever , if they don't already have a DNA match on file . Am I correct here ????

Yes and it is irritating!!!!

[Sincere]

UGH!! WILL SOMEONE JUST TELL US SOMETHING ALLREADY ITS KILLING ME!!! STREET TALK IS THEY ARE LOOKING FOR THE OWNERS OF THE DNA LE SAYS NOTHING...PURE TORTURE

They could be looking for the owners of the DNA forever , if they don't already have a DNA match on file . Am I correct here ????

Yes and it is irritating!!!!

Does anyone know if any of the people that have been questioned have had DNA swabs done on them ???

[PURPLECATS]

*neighborhood talk*

Heard today that the Straub's have been moving furniture out of their house and have not been staying there. So sad.

Oh, man, I'm actually glad to hear that. I cannot imagine having to live in the house where your child was murdered. I hope that family, friends, work buddies, church, whatever, all pitched in to help them.

I AGREE i could never live there anymore and never knowing if they would come back

[imsuchawildflower]

i want to know who the people who don't need cops call when they are robbed at gunpoint or beaten or raped.

Exactly.

[Methusala]

i want to know who the people who don't need cops call when they are robbed at gunpoint or beaten or raped.

I always laugh at the cynical and the misinformed who regard law enforcement at a negative level or think officers are not needed. There is no doubt that a “few” officer’s have crossed the line on the job, but they do not represent all of law enforcement. What the public does not understand, is that the assholes in this world outnumber the men/women in uniform. That politics and those abruptly making/changing laws have no business putting input into a subject that they do not understand or have ever experienced.

I can guarantee you, that an officer would put his/her life on the line for any person when a situation deems it necessary. Regardless of their affiliation to a culture or monetary status in the community. It is the most thankless job in the world, and when you are thanked; it is usually by a comrade.

Many forget that officer’s are held to a higher standard and have more than the average amount of laws and rules to follow both on and off the job. The culture of law enforcement is beyond unique! What is appalling is how many judgmental people will be the first to point out how an officer should do his/her job without knowing the policies of their own local law enforcement and for that matter, the laws of their state.

As I have read through this specific thread pertaining to this horrific crime I have become enraged, frustrated, and utterly disgusted by some “opinions” on law enforcement and how they are conducting this investigation. So before you feel the need to judge the motives and calculated moves of law enforcement, or attempt to undermine their task at hand. Remember that you as a voter and taxpayer have allowed the system of criminal justice to get polluted with politics and laws that tie the hands of officers to respond to situations, but not as you would prefer. Sorry for the rant….MOTE IT BE….

Very well put. It is too bad that my criticism of a particular law officer's unprofessional remarks, and my concern over a fear that this particular police department may be in over their heads, has instead been turned into a rant against law enforcement. That was not my intention, and not something I would agree with.

I too have friends who are criminal defense attorneys, and I consider the attribution made to them to be pure bullshit. Except for the greenhorn lawyers who are picking up scraps, more experienced criminal defense attorneys have a healthy respect for the experienced cops they encounter and vice versa.

That's the real world, folks.

[eye.of.my]

It slipped while talking to a good source thats been in contact with one of the families. But as I told LC I can't help but wonder if the family isn't spreading that to scare the perps into turning themselves in??? There has been other talk that someone was recently arrested for it yet no names are given there either. But my source has had good info on everything else in this case hoping this is the same result.

can you verify if the rumors are true about Lisa being injured worse than Johnny? Was a baseball bat used? Was Lisa raped? Was her tongue injured?

I have heard that she was worse than him and it was a closed casket to his open but he didnt look good either but thats from him sitting so long I guess.

[imsuchawildflower]

Does anyone think their killer(s) have killed before? [/color]

YES

I just dont see how someone could kill for the first time, this way.
This is someone with the stomach for torture etc. Blood lust so to speak.

[WolfHouse]

Very well put. It is too bad that my criticism of a particular law officer's unprofessional remarks, and my concern over a fear that this particular police department may be in over their heads, has instead been turned into a rant against law enforcement. That was not my intention, and not something I would agree with.

I too have friends who are criminal defense attorneys, and I consider the attribution made to them to be pure bullshit. Except for the greenhorn lawyers who are picking up scraps, more experienced criminal defense attorneys have a healthy respect for the experienced cops they encounter and vice versa.

That's the real world, folks.

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Beautifully put!

[ToledoNative]

Does anyone think their killer(s) have killed before? [/color]

YES

I just dont see how someone could kill for the first time, this way.
This is someone with the stomach for torture etc. Blood lust so to speak.

It just seems so careless and "unprofessional" to kill this way. Tape picks up everything. Someone who knew what they were doing would use a different method, it seems.

[imsuchawildflower]

Anyone seen Maytees latest post? Thank god justice has prevailed?

First of all, justice has prevailed? As in case solved??

And, thank god? Doesn't she mean, thank the wizard of oz?

RIP Johnny Ha you ignorant mockers you wish you all knew wat i know and you just showed me how brainless you really are to think that i would ever post any info and leads to my son johnny n lisas case on here or any sights you dumb dumb n dumber stupid mocking fuckers now i really know your all ignorant=stupid
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[ZEROSPHERES]

It slipped while talking to a good source thats been in contact with one of the families. But as I told LC I can't help but wonder if the family isn't spreading that to scare the perps into turning themselves in??? There has been other talk that someone was recently arrested for it yet no names are given there either. But my source has had good info on everything else in this case hoping this is the same result.

can you verify if the rumors are true about Lisa being injured worse than Johnny? Was a baseball bat used? Was Lisa raped? Was her tongue injured?

I have heard that she was worse than him and it was a closed casket to his open but he didnt look good either but thats from him sitting so long I guess.

She had an open casket

[ToledoNative]

Anyone seen Maytees latest post? Thank god justice has prevailed?

First of all, justice has prevailed? As in case solved??

And, thank god? Doesn't she mean, thank the wizard of oz?

RIP Johnny Ha you ignorant mockers you wish you all knew wat i know and you just showed me how brainless you really are to think that i would ever post any info and leads to my son johnny n lisas case on here or any sights you dumb dumb n dumber stupid mocking fuckers now i really know your all ignorant=stupid
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RIP Johnny Cnt wait till they pick you all up n book you their is nowhere you can hide from what awaits you JUSTICE WILL n DOES PREVAiL AMEN...thank you GOD
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That's it, I'm done with Maytee.
She is either:
1. On drugs
2. Bipolar
3. Immature enough to play games on facebook about her SON'S DEATH...HELLO??

I'm done. Not giving her or her comments the attention she wants. IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU, IT'S ABOUT YOUR SON!