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Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered
(03-11-2011, 12:35 AM)eye.of.my Wrote: hahaha!!! I had post-it notes EVERYWHERE! I did start on a note pad though, now. I don't have an all out, pat theory, except I DO think someone was highly pissed off with Johnny, involving drugs/money. I can't let go of the digital scales found on the kitchen counter, along with the small pieces of white plastic found. There's no doubt in my mind Johnny was dealing dope. I also think Maytee has a good idea of why her son was killed. She may not know who did it, but I think she's got a good idea about why. Throwing Tiffany under the bus, so quickly??? Just doesn't add up to me. All JMO

Right I asked that when she was on here answering questions unfortunatly she never answered, but if they had never met why would Maytee throw such an accusation her way? Maybe the friend who called her had something else to say? Maybe she heard about her from someone else? Your guess is as good as mine but that question is one of my biggest. I have it in big bold letters and highlighted cause it just bothers the shit out of me.
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I agree, that's a very good question! Maytee's reading here, right now. She claims the reason Tiffany drove John Sr to the home, was so Maytee could trap her there, & make sure she talked to LE. Well, Tiffany DID talk to LE, obviously, & she's not been arrested yet. IMO, Tiffany sounded clueless, talking to the dispatcher. I'm sure it didn't help matters with Maytee ranting about her setting up Johnny in the background. Why would Maytee think ANYONE would have set Johnny up? *sighs* oh well, I'm off to get some sleep. Hopefully I won't choke on my tongue hah
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(03-11-2011, 12:35 AM)eye.of.my Wrote:
(03-11-2011, 12:24 AM)Jane Wrote: hahaha!!! I had post-it notes EVERYWHERE! I did start on a note pad though, now. I don't have an all out, pat theory, except I DO think someone was highly pissed off with Johnny, involving drugs/money. I can't let go of the digital scales found on the kitchen counter, along with the small pieces of white plastic found. There's no doubt in my mind Johnny was dealing dope. I also think Maytee has a good idea of why her son was killed. She may not know who did it, but I think she's got a good idea about why. Throwing Tiffany under the bus, so quickly??? Just doesn't add up to me. All JMO

Right I asked that when she was on here answering questions unfortunatly she never answered, but if they had never met why would Maytee throw such an accusation her way? Maybe the friend who called her had something else to say? Maybe she heard about her from someone else? Your guess is as good as mine but that question is one of my biggest. I have it in big bold letters and highlighted cause it just bothers the shit out of me.

I agree, that's a very good question! Maytee's reading here, right now. She claims the reason Tiffany drove John Sr to the home, was so Maytee could trap her there, & make sure she talked to LE. Well, Tiffany DID talk to LE, obviously, & she's not been arrested yet. IMO, Tiffany sounded clueless, talking to the dispatcher. I'm sure it didn't help matters with Maytee ranting about her setting up Johnny in the background. Why would Maytee think ANYONE would have set Johnny up? *sighs* oh well, I'm off to get some sleep. Hopefully I won't choke on my tongue hah

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(03-11-2011, 12:47 AM)NightOwl Wrote: Yes, some one was either very ANGRY with Johnny or Lisa to have done this deed - Tiff I think wrong time wrong place a big muddle trying to reach Johnny's parents. The ex-boyfriend may live in a nearby neighborhood & attended same school as Lisa. It's definately someone close to either party here. Just my opinion thrown in here.

yes, the ex boyfriend. I tend to think he's not involved, BUT he went to the funeral, & perps have been known to do that.(show up at their victims' funerals) Good nite all MockersHibye

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(03-10-2011, 10:25 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote: I found this about MM & BC. I'm posting it because I know there was discussion about how US Marshalls picked them up etc. NOTE: They have not been named as persons of interest in this case by LE but they've been mentioned here.

look i am going to keep real cause i am tired of all the bullshit then i am done with it .i did not snitch on MM or BC and you can look that shit up its a public record lucascourtdockets.com
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But i will tell all of you that tomorrow i will probably be going down to press charges on MM ass for talking bout he going to kill me or use my kids to get to me so if that makes me a snitch then so be it .i am, tired of the bullshit all you have to do is file for a motion of discovery buts i guess you dont need that cause you think you know.
2 hours ago.

and just so if their aint anybody that don't know exactly what happen ,here it is my baby mama /ex wife was fucking BC he got into some shit and decided he had to bounce well as we all know the us marshalls was looking for him ,so on th...at note my ex decided to tell me she was moving to florida with my kids and instead didn't tell when she was leaving and moved with my kids to be on the run with BC so i tracked my kids down (did i find them YES)did i snitch on them NO it wasn't even 24 hours after she got their with him they got caught .but because i told BC i knew where they were and if my kids didnt call me i was coming to get them. itried to press kidnapping charges on my ex but they told me their was nothing they could do cause we were still married and she was the mother.but i didn't tell her or BC that ,and for some reason they want to think that us marshalls wouldnt follow her or track his phone .so if knowing where they where they were and not saying nothing makes me a snitch then so be it .BUT NOW I DID ALSO TELL BC NOTHING WOULD STAND IN THE WAY OF MY KIDS NOT EVEN HIM
2 hours ago.

and on MMs note telling people i snitched explain to me how a mf thats a flight risk and out on bond with multiple failure to appears (look at his record lucascountycourtdockets.com) gets out on bond
2 hours ago.

INTERESTING!! I really think there is MUCH more to the MM and BC arrests. I think they either know something and are being pressured, or they are involved.

(info from MM's facebook page about recent arrest)

m got locked back up yesterday when he went to check in

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What did they say?

he aint got a bond...he goes to court on the 16th...i called his lawyer tonight and asked him to go talk to him tomorrow...since he didnt show up today...cuz all m wants is to get a bond set so he can get out...this shit sucks tho for real...he didnt do nothin wrong this time and he still got locked up...

I mean why are they saying he had a failure to show when he did show to get the sheriff release?

his lawyer said he had a court date a month and a half ago he didnt show up to...so i guess that is what its from

it's retarded.. when they first brought him to court they didn't see the other warrant? wtf. They are retarded.

girl the warrant didnt show up in the computer til monday! that shit is crazy right?!

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(towards MM's girlfriend)

"bitch please u could never look better then me . and yes hunny ur lil bitch of a man is a snitch dnt nobody get a fukin or bond especially wen the marshalls had to get him from another state u stupid ass bitch .. u or ur hoe ass man aint rough bitch so u kan kill that ugly slut!!!!"

"bitch oh yes the fucc i would that lil bitch ass nigga aint nobody out here thats for mutha fuccin sure and u not neither bitch !!!! its ones them papers come out eveybody will kno that fukin hoe ass nigga is a SNITCH AS BITCH !!!!!! AND EVEYBODY KNOS WAT HAPPENS WEN U SNITCH LMMFAO TRICK."
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Good night Jane - your posts are always good to read.
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MM: time to lay it down an beat tha pussy up goodnite fb stalker's

ahh that MM is one class act lol
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Hey Unknown or Concerned...did anything ever come about of the alleged missing laptop and mysterious phone from Mr. Z's mom?
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(03-10-2011, 05:57 PM)trixie Wrote: Has anyone saw the comments on this pic??

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1...64&theater




Maytee Eeewww that tiffany is a dam skank sewer trash hoe
March 6 at 4:02am

TW hahahhahhahahhahahhahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahahhahahahhahahhahahhahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahahha/......
March 6 at 1:12pm

Maytee Laugh now cry later demon skank
March 6 at 2:18pm

TW sorry maytee aint no pill popper dis way..and im faithful 2 A.P....!so i dont think u kno wut ur talking about.and neva did i get donald killed idk where u got ur info from so keep his name out ur mouth.let him rest in peace witout a crazy ass snitch like u 2 b sayin shyt bout him.get urself 2 gtha lady n instead of talking shit 2 people u should b grieving...stay da fuk off of pics of me n get urself 2gtha....
Monday at 12:48am

TW well do me a favor and send them 2 a.p.he'd love 2 see em.and sorry a.p dont put his hands on me...and i dont fuk wyt z if u wanna kno he was fukin ur neice not me...so go gather so more info n if ur gonna snitch lyk wut ur best at u informant ..get ur facts straight.thank u..have a goodnight n god bless
Monday at 12:58am

Maytee KARMA...
Monday at 1:12am

TW sorry maytee u dont kno wut ur talkin about....u really dont.neva would i set up any1.so please get ur facts 2gtha.and no need 4 a dna wyt my baby me n a.p both kno whos daddy so dont worry bout me or mine...
Monday at 1:13am

this exchange was very telling to me. it almost seems as if Tiffany is being more mature than Maytee. Doesn't Maytee sound like a 15 yr old girl?

Anyway, Tiffany's comment calling Maytee an "informant" wow.. I know people have speculated about Maytee being an informant after he husband was busted with drugs, now to see Tiff also saying that makes me wonder just HOW well known that is. Hmmm....

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(03-10-2011, 03:56 AM)concerned Wrote: Another thought I have is this.... Now read this and think about the actual crime scene. I know for a fact that this crime scene was a " massacre". I will get this out of the way and let you all know I am "UNKNOWN" sister. Whoever did this had to have left the crime scene covered in blood. No way around it.

I'm sorry but I'm really having a hard time believing that the crime scene was a "massacre" or as bloody as some have said. I mean doesn't it seem very strange and odd that Maytee NEVER said a word about blood except for a little blood on the side of Lisa's head? Even in the heat of the moment when Maytee called 911 and was hysterical describing the crime scene to the operator ("they were laying w/bags over their heads and duct tape, phone on the chest, lisa has no shirt/pants on", etc) not a PEEP about a ton of blood? I watch a lot of true crime shows and many real 911 calls and almost always the person calling 911 talks about "their's blood everywhere!" or "he/she's covered in blood!" etc. It's just so weird to me that something like that would not get mentioned in the 911 calls, the TV interview that Maytee gave describing the scene, etc. Granted, she probably didn't see the scene herself, but wouldn't the John Sr. tell her about it?

Also, if John Sr. went up to both bodies and removed the bags, wouldn't he essentially have blood on him? Has anyone heard about this?? I suppose it could have been dried up by then... ack.. I dont know!!


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(03-11-2011, 01:35 AM)Miss Conspiracy Wrote:
(03-10-2011, 03:56 AM)concerned Wrote: Another thought I have is this.... Now read this and think about the actual crime scene. I know for a fact that this crime scene was a " massacre". I will get this out of the way and let you all know I am "UNKNOWN" sister. Whoever did this had to have left the crime scene covered in blood. No way around it.

I'm sorry but I'm really having a hard time believing that the crime scene was a "massacre" or as bloody as some have said. I mean doesn't it seem very strange and odd that Maytee NEVER said a word about blood except for a little blood on the side of Lisa's head? Even in the heat of the moment when Maytee called 911 and was hysterical describing the crime scene to the operator ("they were laying w/bags over their heads and duct tape, phone on the chest, lisa has no shirt/pants on", etc) not a PEEP about a ton of blood? I watch a lot of true crime shows and many real 911 calls and almost always the person calling 911 talks about "their's blood everywhere!" or "he/she's covered in blood!" etc. It's just so weird to me that something like that would not get mentioned in the 911 calls, the TV interview that Maytee gave describing the scene, etc. Granted, she probably didn't see the scene herself, but wouldn't the John Sr. tell her about it?

Also, if John Sr. went up to both bodies and removed the bags, wouldn't he essentially have blood on him? Has anyone heard about this?? I suppose it could have been dried up by then... ack.. I dont know!!

I cannot recall who posted it but someone said that Maytee did go inside. I think it was JSMOM but I could be wrong. If she did in fact go in then I also find it strange that she didn't mention the blood ???
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(03-11-2011, 12:53 AM)Jane Wrote: She claims the reason Tiffany drove John Sr to the home, was so Maytee could trap her there, & make sure she talked to LE.

I must have missed this somewhere, where did Maytee ever say that? I've heard all kinds of theories about why John Sr accepted a ride from Tiffany, some outlandish & disgusting.... but never do I recall Maytee herself explaining why John Sr rode with Tiffany. Anyone else?
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sorry Maytee don't mote me please, I'm just sharing the info!!



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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez
Please block ap a from this page he does not need to be on this sight when i heard from alot of sources he told people he was going to rob johnny n lisa and thats why tiffanny williams was out at lisas with zack prior nights scoping out the scene...god hates ugly and will make sure all involved pay for what they did to johnny n lisa
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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez
And fyi you sick fuckin mockers ive never had life insurance policy on my kids myself or husband..... Do you have one you sick fucks and if you do please do is a favor and jump off the nearest bridge
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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez
Their is no pain that can ever compare to the loss of my babiboi johnny i miss you think about you every second of everyday we love you so much johnny our life will never ever be the same without you but i do promise you that noone i mean noone will get away with wat they did to you and lisa they will all die and those demons rot in hell they dont go to heaven like you and lisa did i love you
about an hour ago via iPhone
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(03-11-2011, 01:44 AM)Freshbait78 Wrote:
(03-11-2011, 12:53 AM)Jane Wrote: She claims the reason Tiffany drove John Sr to the home, was so Maytee could trap her there, & make sure she talked to LE.

I must have missed this somewhere, where did Maytee ever say that? I've heard all kinds of theories about why John Sr accepted a ride from Tiffany, some outlandish & disgusting.... but never do I recall Maytee herself explaining why John Sr rode with Tiffany. Anyone else?

I have never heard that either???
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Well i think someone has had enough of A.P on the Justice Prevails page smh. He has apparently pushed Maytee over the edge. I dont know how I am suprised. lol
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Maytee and AP/AG are going at it on the Justice page. Posting before it gets deleted...

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez
Please block a from this page he does not need to be on this sight when i heard from alot of sources he told people he was going to rob johnny n lisa and thats why tiffanny williams was out at lisas with z prior nights scoping out the scene...god hates ugly and will make sure all involved pay for what they did to johnny n lisa
28 minutes ago via iPhone

AG i dont even fuck wit z u simple minded person...please do ur research before u speak...
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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez She does is she forgetting the cameras on my house alarm are in every room here and shes been fucking with zack since the end of summer??? Hmmmm and i record all night n day oh and fyi mine is wireless ha so noone can cut my wires if you ever thought about it before just so you know...she used zack as alibi
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AG why did u erase our last conversation u dont want people to know that yu were an informant at one point in ur life...u can spread lies but how bout speadin some truth...and my right hand on the bible u were an informant at one point in ur life...N THATZ REAL
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AG what does it matter that she was with z in the summer.. i wasnt even with her than.. i didnt start datin tiffany until september and that is way past the summer...who cares who she was fuckin with...ur a SIMP foreal
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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez She never stop messin with z is what you dont want to see shes been with both since just like alex cheated on you so does she if i remember correctly you ran innthe new years party where she was on percocets n zacks beer pong partner beat her threaten his life as he ran and robbed three girls wowwww karma
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AG n do u hear urself....keywords "when u heard from a lot of sources" thats where ur wrong ... i dont even fuck wit none of these fuck niggaz n bitches out here so where the fuck would u hear that from....and i promise u i would never have to take some1s life to get what i want...them 2 did not deserve that at all...and me and tiffany dont deserve any of this...tiffany did love them 2 and i dont even give a rats azz what u say because im the one that had to hold tiffany for a week when she would be cryin over all of this..not u......n why would i care about ur alarm system.... what do u need an alarm systrem for if ur a witch? cant u jus spread some of ur fairy dust around the house to keep all evil away?
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(03-11-2011, 01:42 AM)kitty1 Wrote:
(03-11-2011, 01:35 AM)Miss Conspiracy Wrote:
(03-10-2011, 03:56 AM)concerned Wrote: Another thought I have is this.... Now read this and think about the actual crime scene. I know for a fact that this crime scene was a " massacre". I will get this out of the way and let you all know I am "UNKNOWN" sister. Whoever did this had to have left the crime scene covered in blood. No way around it.

I'm sorry but I'm really having a hard time believing that the crime scene was a "massacre" or as bloody as some have said. I mean doesn't it seem very strange and odd that Maytee NEVER said a word about blood except for a little blood on the side of Lisa's head? Even in the heat of the moment when Maytee called 911 and was hysterical describing the crime scene to the operator ("they were laying w/bags over their heads and duct tape, phone on the chest, lisa has no shirt/pants on", etc) not a PEEP about a ton of blood? I watch a lot of true crime shows and many real 911 calls and almost always the person calling 911 talks about "their's blood everywhere!" or "he/she's covered in blood!" etc. It's just so weird to me that something like that would not get mentioned in the 911 calls, the TV interview that Maytee gave describing the scene, etc. Granted, she probably didn't see the scene herself, but wouldn't the John Sr. tell her about it?

Also, if John Sr. went up to both bodies and removed the bags, wouldn't he essentially have blood on him? Has anyone heard about this?? I suppose it could have been dried up by then... ack.. I dont know!!

I cannot recall who posted it but someone said that Maytee did go inside. I think it was JSMOM but I could be wrong. If she did in fact go in then I also find it strange that she didn't mention the blood ???

If I remember correctly on the 911 calls she was being told what someone else had seen when she was telling the 911 operator. I do not think the door was broke down yet i could be wrong. It has been awhile since I heard them. For the most part I'm almost positive she was repeating someone.

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Wow, there are accusations and denials and threats flying all over FB today. I really hope that means the heat is on and somebody is snitching!
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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez
a continues to torment me and harras me n my family and threaten me n my family ive contacted detectives and made them aware of all his threats justice will prevail
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AG i am in no way tryin to harrass u ...i jus feel that its wrong how u r throwin even more dirt on tiffany and my name... i really hope u apologize when evrythang is said and done and the true culprits r caught
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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez If u are proven beyond a reasonable doubt that you are not guilty i will be the first to apologize till then your name sure does pop out of all your so called friends mouths daily AG
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AG and i appreciate that and to be honest ma'am i dont have any friends so you are truly mistaken... i am a loner... i sit in the house all day everyday ...i dont need friends when i have so many enemies
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AG oh poor me... i dont want anyone to feel bad for me or tiffany... IM TOO REAL for all that
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AG im done arguin..i jus really all of u people would realize that ur so worried about me and tiffany while the real culprits r most likely sittn back and laughing at how naive everyone one is and thats some true live evil shit to think about...
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AG N THATS REAL...whoever did that to them was a coward....to put a bag over some1s head instead of physically killin them ...that is the definition of a spineless coward...and i promise u i dont fit in that category at all
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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez You tiffany n whoever else was involved has a bed waiting in lucasville for all trust n believe the sec all the evil demons decided to murder johnny n lisa a death sentence was signed before god law enforcement n men so with that said LAUGH now but CRY bloody tears later til proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt AG
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