Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[fabulous]

And can I just ask of you normal people, why does it seem like some people think that being a SNITCH is worse than being a freakin' MURDERER ? These people are acting like that is the absolute worse insult you can put on someone - worse than insulting your Mama. With that mentality in this crowd, its no wonder that LE hasn't solved this yet. If I knew someone, anyone, that killed someone this brutally I would "snitch" on them in a heartbeat. So its ok that you beat women, deal drugs, rob houses - are just a menace to society in general - but at least you are not a tattle tale - god bless.

OMG! well said!
my thoughts exactly!!!

[Adub]

And can I just ask of you normal people, why does it seem like some people think that being a SNITCH is worse than being a freakin' MURDERER ? These people are acting like that is the absolute worse insult you can put on someone - worse than insulting your Mama. With that mentality in this crowd, its no wonder that LE hasn't solved this yet. If I knew someone, anyone, that killed someone this brutally I would "snitch" on them in a heartbeat. So its ok that you beat women, deal drugs, rob houses - are just a menace to society in general - but at least you are not a tattle tale - god bless.

OMG! well said!
my thoughts exactly!!!

And AG did bring up JC and a confrontation/situation at North Central. And the fact that JC was transferred out. I do know that JC did his time at a minimum security prison just outside of Columbus. So anyways, I got that much out of all that crazy talk.

[JsMom]

I agree that Maytee has crossed over into the land of crazy but then again I can't say I blame her. Right or wrong, she thinks these people KILLED her child and they are still out and about - her threats and curses are nothing compared to what I would want to do to them. If I knew for sure, I would probably literally kill them - consequences be damned. The FB stuff is way over the top and is making her much less sympathetic but who knows, maybe she will get someone mad enough to trip up and say the wrong thing.

And can I just ask of you normal people, why does it seem like some people think that being a SNITCH is worse than being a freakin' MURDERER ? These people are acting like that is the absolute worse insult you can put on someone - worse than insulting your Mama. With that mentality in this crowd, its no wonder that LE hasn't solved this yet. If I knew someone, anyone, that killed someone this brutally I would "snitch" on them in a heartbeat. So its ok that you beat women, deal drugs, rob houses - are just a menace to society in general - but at least you are not a tattle tale - god bless.

I totally agree. Well put Nina

[Freshbait78]

And can I just ask of you normal people, why does it seem like some people think that being a SNITCH is worse than being a freakin' MURDERER ? These people are acting like that is the absolute worse insult you can put on someone - worse than insulting your Mama. With that mentality in this crowd, its no wonder that LE hasn't solved this yet. If I knew someone, anyone, that killed someone this brutally I would "snitch" on them in a heartbeat. So its ok that you beat women, deal drugs, rob houses - are just a menace to society in general - but at least you are not a tattle tale - god bless.

Here's an example of this kind of mentality I found on the net:

My boyfriend was snitched on.. Being a snitch is as good as being dead to everyone. You will nolonger be respected by anyone of the streets again. Snitching is when you give up information on someone that you know is doing something that they can get in trouble for and/or is illegal.. You can snitch on someone who's cheating on someone if you know about it for example, but snitching is done maliciously to get back at someone, to hurt someone, to prove a point, thinking they have the power, but the number one reason is that people snitch and often give up other people and any or all information on other people is to save themselves from possible prison time if the finger is on them. Some snitches will add on to their stories to make it sound better.. Bottom line, a snitch is a snitch.. my boyfriend is not a snitch which is why he is where he is and why he got the sentence he did. Not only did an alleged very close friend snitch on him, but also put all of his own dirt on my man too. My boyfriend wouldn't say anything, so now he has to suffer for someone else snitching on him, which is the worst thing in the world, because the snitcher walked away scott free. But unfortunately this is the law of the streets.. and if you snitch not only are you as good as dead, but in certain cases you may actually wind up dead by being one.

What these assholes fail to realize is that if you wouldn't partake in illegal activity no one would have anything to snitch about. Dumb asses!! It's all about deflecting responsibility as far as I can tell. The snitch involved in a crime who snitches to get a lesser sentence isn't taking responsibility for the crime they commited which is why they're hated & the person snitched on finds it unfair that they have to serve a larger sentence than the snitcher instead of taking responsibility & understanding that apart from the snitch, if they had never participated they wouldn't be where they are.

Another thing I can't stand is reading "Free my nigga so&so" I've seen that on my FB & immediatly deleted those people. If your nigga did something illegal that landed them in prison.... I don't want them free. They are exactly where they should be. Apparently there are alot of people in the hood who've never heard the word accountability.

[WolfHouse]

I'm sorry but I think Maytee is going WAY OVER THE LINE wishing death on completely innocent child (Tiff's unborn baby) that is truly SICK and DISGUSTING!!!

I don't give her a pass anymore, she's a fuckin' loon.

It's been said that law enforcement has repeatedly asked her to stop posting this bullshit. If that's a true statement then she's a moron as well.

She's wishing DEATH upon people. She said that kid's mom was probably disgusted by him, I wonder what her kids think about her. If she were my mom, I'd try to distance myself from her too, she's low class & uncouth, a complete & utter embarrassment. Some forgive her the vicious attacks because her son was murdered, I don't. She's a hypocrite.

Hi Duchess!
AG told me personally last night that the detectives are trying to ban Maytee from Facebook.

i know FOR A FACT that LE has told her to shut the fuck up.

she is so out of line. OMG. she is so out of line (I'm stunned, and that's all I can say for her!)

but in reading all of that back and forth FB nonsense....I totally believe that she was involved with snitching in the past. There was a rumor here locally right from the get-go that she and JC sr were involved in a drug bust, snitched, tongue cut, etc. and NOT that I believe everything that comes out of AG's mouth...but it was the way she responded or DIDN"T respond to his constant barrage of "snitch" comments. just my opinion of course. I think it's telling.

what is that quote that comes to mind..."sometimes it's all in the details"....

It would be easy enough for LE to request a FB account be removed.

[aileen]

Ahh right thanks for reminding me, that is one thing I was curious about and going to bring up. I found it interesting how she did NOT address ANY of what AG (or TW said for that matter) when he was talking about her being an informant/snitch/history of snitching. Hmmm... she did not even try and defend herself that she did not do that. he even mentioned that her name is different now?? I thought someone that knew her from high school or something that her name has always been Maytee. WHO knows!

My sister went to school with her, her name hasn't changed. FACT

[Lady Cop]

i worry about the future of some of these young people.
they don't seem to care about getting an education, college, careers. what will they be doing at age 40, 50 or 60? sitting in prison? what will they do with their lives? it's very sad to read all the bullshit poser nonsense online. it's like there is no tomorrow, only a juvenile 'gangsta' culture and mindset, no real culture or interests about the larger world. didn't their parents teach them anything? i am sure some of the parents tried to expose them to history or science or decency or integrity.

[kfran]

And can I just ask of you normal people, why does it seem like some people think that being a SNITCH is worse than being a freakin' MURDERER ? These people are acting like that is the absolute worse insult you can put on someone - worse than insulting your Mama. With that mentality in this crowd, its no wonder that LE hasn't solved this yet. If I knew someone, anyone, that killed someone this brutally I would "snitch" on them in a heartbeat. So its ok that you beat women, deal drugs, rob houses - are just a menace to society in general - but at least you are not a tattle tale - god bless.

I totally agree. Well put Nina

Nina, I think a lot of it revolves around maturity & education (or lack thereof in these cases). They're overly concerned about their "street cred" while most of us have never had street cred to begin with, let alone gave two shits about it.

[JsMom]

i worry about the future of some of these young people.
they don't seem to care about getting an education, college, careers. what will they be doing at age 40, 50 or 60? sitting in prison? what will they do with their lives? it's very sad to read all the bullshit poser nonsense online. it's like there is no tomorrow, only a juvenile 'gangsta' culture and mindset, no real culture or interests about the larger world. didn't their parents teach them anything? i am sure some of the parents tried to expose them to history or science or decency or integrity.

Yah its pretty sad! This kind of shit is what makes it hard on the rest of us. EXAMPLE: we used to be able to hang out at the stores, gas stations, local square, parks at night and so on....Now our kids cant, due to gangtas, under age drinking, fights, and leaving a mess behind. Our kids cant do shit. They cant even go to school and feel safe and be excepted for whom they are, not where they come from. What they have and dont have. whether or not they r skinny or fat! sososo What ever happened to "Treat Everyone The Way You Would Want To Be Treated" "Love Thy Neighbor" etc....awful!!

[Nina]

Freedom of Speech? Who is LE to say whether you can or can not have a FB account? I can see you getting in trouble posting something illegal (child porn, etc) or making threats and be charged with a criminal offense. I don't think LE could MAKE you take your FB down. However, I'm sure the people that run FB reserved the right to do that so they probably could.

[heartbreaker6713]

Interesting AG comments how it's in her blood to snitch...which IMO implies other family members have well...hhmmm

First thank you for your hard work to post all that and switch it to initials and all that before it was taken down, Many thanks! It was so interesting to read. If we can take it at any truth at all beyond it's face value. It would be interesting to find out if what AG says is true about her being an informant and what not. I don't know that this has any relevance. What i also found interesting was that he said he served time with Johnny. (mind you i am not caught up on a few pages yet, so i apologize if someone else brings this up) but its possible if we are talking about him bragging about the safe that he may have bragged to AG about the safe at this time, to him?

[Lady Cop]

Freedom of Speech? Who is LE to say whether you can or can not have a FB account? I can see you getting in trouble posting something illegal (child porn, etc) or making threats and be charged with a criminal offense. I don't think LE could MAKE you take your FB down. However, I'm sure the people that run FB reserved the right to do that so they probably could.

yes, FB has the right to limit what is said on their server/site.

for example, i complained to FB about the facebook woman who was lifting Mock stuff w/o attribution. it seems they got right on her ass about it.

if FB gets complaints about threats or other offensive content, they will take notice.

[heartbreaker6713]

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez And to a certain mocker oh your dosed up on meds hope what you write made since..... Geez what are you on lithium heavy duty psycho drugs no wonder you people are a joke you all need a one way ticket to the loony farm with no lap tops please straight white jackets only.... And yeah by the way you dont have to like me cus i really despise all you gossiping sick excuses for human life so copy n paste that too we dont need you wanna be lying loonies trying to solve any case try to solve your pathetic life and stay the hell out of ours

This made me laugh, I am sure it made perfect sence... especially to the people who responded to my posting. and Nope not on lithium and never have been but it sounds like she needs to be on and since her voodoo calm down some it seems that she might have started some. However her recent over the line comments may suggest she went off them. I take PAIN meds for a back injury from being hit by a drunk driver and i don't abuse them!

[kfran]

i worry about the future of some of these young people.
they don't seem to care about getting an education, college, careers. what will they be doing at age 40, 50 or 60? sitting in prison? what will they do with their lives? it's very sad to read all the bullshit poser nonsense online. it's like there is no tomorrow, only a juvenile 'gangsta' culture and mindset, no real culture or interests about the larger world. didn't their parents teach them anything? i am sure some of the parents tried to expose them to history or science or decency or integrity.

I worry as well, they have no aspirations, no desires to do better. If they think "rich-ville" is so amazing, why not better themselves to achieve that status? I've worked w/the lower/no income population & yes it is hard to break away & break the cycle, but it can be done. As we've seen w/TW's mom's Myspace- Tiffany didn't have a mother to look up to, someone to tell her she could be anything she wanted to be if she worked hard. I'm guessing it's the same w/nearly everyone in this crowd.
When I worked in the school systems, during career week, we actually had a little boy say that he wanted to be a pimp when he grew up. That was the environment he grew up in, he didn't know any different. It's a sad reality that exists out there & most of us forget or never knew it existed until a case like this happens.

[Miss Conspiracy]

Interesting AG comments how it's in her blood to snitch...which IMO implies other family members have well...hhmmm

First thank you for your hard work to post all that and switch it to initials and all that before it was taken down, Many thanks! It was so interesting to read. If we can take it at any truth at all beyond it's face value. It would be interesting to find out if what AG says is true about her being an informant and what not. I don't know that this has any relevance. What i also found interesting was that he said he served time with Johnny. (mind you i am not caught up on a few pages yet, so i apologize if someone else brings this up) but its possible if we are talking about him bragging about the safe that he may have bragged to AG about the safe at this time, to him?

I talked to AG briefly last night through PM and I hesitate to talk about it all because I don't know who all reads here.. but anyway I did ask him about when he was in prison with Johnny and what he meant when he said he knew "what he was like." i did ask if he thought Johnny would have any enemies and he responded that Yes definitely. that he was kind of a show off and arrogant in prison (but that did NOT deserve what happened to him!) and he feels it could have been someone with something against him, or knew of what all he had, or both. his mom had to call and get him protective custody and transferred because people were stealing his stuff and he was telling on them, etc. He also said Johnny did seem and act tough but at heart he was not at all (god rest his soul).

just wanted to say AG was very articulate and sounded very smart and reasonable talking to me.. I believe him more than Maytee.

[kitty1]

Interesting AG comments how it's in her blood to snitch...which IMO implies other family members have well...hhmmm

First thank you for your hard work to post all that and switch it to initials and all that before it was taken down, Many thanks! It was so interesting to read. If we can take it at any truth at all beyond it's face value. It would be interesting to find out if what AG says is true about her being an informant and what not. I don't know that this has any relevance. What i also found interesting was that he said he served time with Johnny. (mind you i am not caught up on a few pages yet, so i apologize if someone else brings this up) but its possible if we are talking about him bragging about the safe that he may have bragged to AG about the safe at this time, to him?

My understanding is that Johnny didn't meet Lisa until after his release so the safe convrsation wouldn't have happened.

[kitty1]

Does anyone know if she works? I mean she's online all day and all night. Granted I'm online all day, I have an office job and can do that. Just makes me wonder what she does with her life. And I know she's on her phone when she does most of her posting, but still my boss wouldn't be too happy if I were on my phone non-stop. Just curious.

I have an office job as well. I work for my father at our family car lot.

I think they were referring to whether or not Maytee works

[heartbreaker6713]

lol, looks like I am under attack...
Maytee La Cubana Vazquez
And to a certain mocker oh your dosed up on meds hope what you write made since..... Geez what are you on lithium heavy duty psycho drugs no wonder you people are a joke you all need a one way ticket to the loony farm with no lap tops please straight white jackets only.... And yeah by the way you dont have to like me cus i really despise all you gossiping sick excuses for human life so copy n paste that too we dont need you wanna be lying loonies trying to solve any case try to solve your pathetic life and stay the hell out of ours
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Maytee if you see the signature in my post you will see why I take meds and it has nothing to do with my mind. Your a psychic you should know that already.

I think this might be in reference to me. I had made a comment about thinking that johnny may have taken pills or drugs that night and had made refence to myself that i take pain medication. I take pain medication for a back injury. Idk though, maybe not. hope not lol.

[kitty1]

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez from Facebook
"if your not a friend of johnny or my family stay the hell away from his grave and quit lying n speculating on topics you have no idea about you sick gossiping mockers"

Is she implying that one of us "mockers" stole her son's grave marker and/or placed the beads there???

[JsMom]

Does anyone know if she works? I mean she's online all day and all night. Granted I'm online all day, I have an office job and can do that. Just makes me wonder what she does with her life. And I know she's on her phone when she does most of her posting, but still my boss wouldn't be too happy if I were on my phone non-stop. Just curious.

I have an office job as well. I work for my father at our family car lot.

I think they were referring to whether or not Maytee works

they were I was.....just sayin.....