Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[NightOwl]

More of Johnny & Lisa..

beautiful couple! RIP



pretty lisa

Lovely, Lovely couple Lovely Lisa!!!

[Miss Conspiracy]

here's something we haven't seen. A pic of Lisa and Maytee. Really sweet pic

This picture is sooo precious

My Gosh this is a wonderful photograph of Lisa & Maytee - Maytee looks so young and they both look so happy - you've done a grand job Miss Conspiracy!

These photos come from the RIP Johnny page btw. There are a few more that have been recently put up.

RIP Johnny

[concerned]

Just to make myself clear... This forum is for opinions. I happen to know a little about LE. Why put that infomation out since the perps are probably reading everything. This is a brutal double homicide not a petty crime. I would like an answer on how Kitty1 has the DNA info.

I'd like to know too.

I don't understand why everyone is just now asking me this?? I posted about the DNA a week or so ago.

Ok I seen it yesterday. Then do you mind answering how you know that all DNA results were negative?

[concerned]

On post
#11130 Kitty1 posted 03/01/11 there were questions she wasnt comfortable answering. Quote. " they are currently working on DNA. That was March 7,2011. DNA takes longer than 11 days. I want to know how she got this first handed information. I have every right to ask and would like an answer. I know for fact certain facts and I want to compare them.

[concerned]

Just to make myself clear... This forum is for opinions. I happen to know a little about LE. Why put that infomation out since the perps are probably reading everything. This is a brutal double homicide not a petty crime. I would like an answer on how Kitty1 has the DNA info.

I'd like to know too.

I don't understand why everyone is just now asking me this?? I posted about the DNA a week or so ago.

Ok I seen it yesterday. Then do you mind answering how you know that all DNA results were negative?

What is with the mystery Kitty1? I have went back in post and dont see your answer on how you know this,

[kitty1]

Just to make myself clear... This forum is for opinions. I happen to know a little about LE. Why put that infomation out since the perps are probably reading everything. This is a brutal double homicide not a petty crime. I would like an answer on how Kitty1 has the DNA info.

I'd like to know too.

I don't understand why everyone is just now asking me this?? I posted about the DNA a week or so ago.

Ok I seen it yesterday. Then do you mind answering how you know that all DNA results were negative?

What is with the mystery Kitty1? I have went back in post and dont see your answer on how you know this,

The only thing I can tell u is that I am family. I don't know what else to say!? I do need to clarify that I never said that ALL the DNA was back.

[Nina]

Lady Cop, I think you said early on in this thread that you had verified that Kitty was "family" to the Straubs? I don't want to call her out if my info is wrong but I was told that she is not related to the Straubs unless it is very distantly related. I believe they said she was related to a family friend that helped with the clean up of the house and not the actual family.

[kitty1]

Lady Cop, I think you said early on in this thread that you had verified that Kitty was "family" to the Straubs? I don't want to call her out if my info is wrong but I was told that she is not related to the Straubs unless it is very distantly related. I believe they said she was related to a family friend that helped with the clean up of the house and not the actual family.

Wrong! No one seemed to doubt DCTim or Unknown?? Why is everyone doubting me?? Why should I post if I'm not gonna be believed? I didn't intentionally "dangle bait" like someone mentioned. I just decided at the last minute to edit, that's all. I'm in a difficult spot so I think I will just lurk if that is OK with LC and Duchess.

[NightOwl]

FORENSIC TESTING TURNAROUND TIMES IN 50 STATES

http://www.cga.ct.gov/2010/rpt/2010-R-0086.htm

Methusala Thanks-very-much for posting this.......took me awhile to read in between work but, I found it fascinating! Never knew anything like this existed until being on Mock.

[truth be told]

Yes, that is what Maytee believes. But, what if it really isn't AG and TW making pages? I mean, anyone can make a facebook page and say they are someone else. It only takes 3 minutes.

Exactly! I mean does anyone really believe that these AG and TW would actually further incriminate themselves. They are already under the microscope by cops (that would be considered brain dead). If they are really creating different accounts to mess with Maytee, detectives can figure that one out quickly. What if Maytee is the one who is actually posing as someone else and posting on her own site to try and throw cops off? (IMO-this would not be far fetched for her way of thinking.)
Maybe, just maybe it is possible that those two (AG and TW) could be the perfect alibi for this crimes because of their known past history.

[Nina]

Kitty, sorry if I insulted you. Maybe this is where they got it from:

Post #11046, Pg 789: Kitty1 said "The source of the vent info is from me. I am related to the person who went over when crime cleanup was done. It is fact!!!!"

[curious]

Adub, please take no offense....

I'm not taking any offense. I just don't see you getting an answer to your question. And I do not see that it matters. And I did read it here weeks ago. And it was discussed at that time. That's all. Besides, most here know where the info came from, imo.

Since I know for a fact DNA testing did not happen til a few weeks ago, if you read the post from yesterday that is when she posted that the DNA was back and there was no match. If you read further she didnt respond to the post from LC, myself and other on where she got that information. Is her answer to our question on how she know important to us. Well, it is to me. It bothers me that she has not responded. It bothers me putting that type of imformation out there. I stand firm LE would answer "no" even if the true answer is "yes". I also feel since my brother and I have a connection with Lisas family that she has stated she is family and is stating these things which before she dangled a "hook" on Mock stating she had information she just couldnt tell

No offense, but does it bother you the information that your brother put out there?

[cjcisneros]

turn the damn page !



Please ! lol

[Lady Cop]

i haven't 'verified' anyone, except Unknown. i have no way to know if anyone is related or who they claim to be. i certainly use my common sense, "clues" and experience to determine whether i believe anyone. this is not aimed at any one person. just in general.

this little misunderstanding is due to people not qualifying their comments with "in my opinion" "rumor has it" "alleged" or "i think". which i have asked to be done more than once.

we are not going to grill each other. that is like asking for personal information, which nobody is required to give. of course you may ask where info came from.

if someone KNOWS something, they need to state how they know it as FACT. or not.
then members are free to believe. or not.

[pspence]

Missed my fellow Mockers...can't wait to catch up...hope there has been some arrests...I was SO glad to see Maytee knows now we are (most of us) nice folks wanting justice for her beautiful and precious son and darling Lisa...

[onefortheroad]

Yes, that is what Maytee believes. But, what if it really isn't AG and TW making pages? I mean, anyone can make a facebook page and say they are someone else. It only takes 3 minutes.

Exactly! I mean does anyone really believe that these AG and TW would actually further incriminate themselves. They are already under the microscope by cops (that would be considered brain dead). If they are really creating different accounts to mess with Maytee, detectives can figure that one out quickly. What if Maytee is the one who is actually posing as someone else and posting on her own site to try and throw cops off? (IMO-this would not be far fetched for her way of thinking.)
Maybe, just maybe it is possible that those two (AG and TW) could be the perfect alibi for this crimes because of their known past history.

I think the one thing everyone on this forum has in common is that we all want justice for Johnny and Lisa, and want the murderers caught and punished. Beyond that, we're entitled to our own opinions about what happened that night and who's responsible, and some of us have quite strong feelings one way or the other.

I respectfully have to disagree with you here, however, when you suggest that Maytee would be creating online identities and arguing with herself on FB to throw LE off the scent! This then feeds into your theory, which you've stated openly here all along, that she was somehow involved in her son's death, and I do not for one second believe she was.

I think AP and TW are really aggrieved that Maytee is drawing attention to them when they might have thought they'd covered their tracks well enough to avoid suspicion. IMO they're going on FB to defend themselves from Maytee's accusations and turn suspicion back onto her. It was only when she blocked them from her page that they created new identities so they could continue to comment.

It's not just AP and TW's past history that makes them logical suspects, but a whole combination of factors already well covered.

[Adub]

Kitty, sorry if I insulted you. Maybe this is where they got it from:

Post #11046, Pg 789: Kitty1 said "The source of the vent info is from me. I am related to the person who went over when crime cleanup was done. It is fact!!!!"

I've seen that argument in another place and time. Imo, that quote does not imply a familial relationship with the clean-up crew. Read it again, it might help.

[kitty1]

Kitty, sorry if I insulted you. Maybe this is where they got it from:

Post #11046, Pg 789: Kitty1 said "The source of the vent info is from me. I am related to the person who went over when crime cleanup was done. It is fact!!!!"

When the crime scene people came to the Straubs a family representative was present. Sorry if I wasn't clear. Thanks Nina

[Nina]

LC, I wasn't asking that you verify anyone, I just remembered you saying that you had verified someone early on - it was Unknown. sorry

kitty just sometimes posts vague third-party type info or tends to post her opinion as fact, when it is not, For example:
kitty1 said:
the tapes never indicated that she blcked tif in or that tif met her there also she never requested medical help for herself!!!! i know the immediate family this stuff didnt happen

Posted Thursday, February 3, 2011, at 10:55 pm on TCR

I believe that info IS true, per the 911 calls.

I just wish people would not state rumors or opinions as fact. I chat up some of the people mentioned on FB but I don't know them, so I try not to post what they tell me on here because it may not be true and i don't want to muddy the waters.





Just for the record, Maytee on Justice WILL last night:
Maytee: Im sorry i dont want to offend anyone but i know for a fact that neither the straub family or the clarke family take any parts or post on any web sights besides our own facebook pages and the lisa reward fund page set up for her by her uncle. Thanks just wanted to set the record straight.

[JsMom]

Missed my fellow Mockers...can't wait to catch up...hope there has been some arrests...I was SO glad to see Maytee knows now we are (most of us) nice folks wanting justice for her beautiful and precious son and darling Lisa...

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