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Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered
(03-30-2011, 10:49 AM)Lady Cop Wrote: bopper whore refers to teeny-boppers. teenage girls.

No........Maytee was calling her a dick sucking whore. Around here thats what a bopper is.hah
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Im not sure if anybody ever answered me,But they key that was found under lisa was it ever thought of as being from a locker of some sort


Maybe the key went to the non existent safe.
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No more penguin,is that better.. :o) 1. obviously there was a fight with Lisa considering there was dried blood found on her head, maybe we have some kind of luck in LE maybe finding some DNA under her fingernails..
2. Just because a gun wasn't used to kill doesn't mean one wasn't present as a back up and or to cause fear in the victims but in the end the sicko(s) wants them to suffer.. Given Johnnys size he didnt look like a easy to take down guy so obviously there was more than one person or like I said a GUN.... But like I said maybe there will be some DNA on the clothing of the victims or under Lisa's nails seeing as though there possibly was a fight with her... Not to shift attention off of the hoodrats AG and TW, but WHAT IF the crazy ex was the main guy, that would explain why Lisa would have blood on her, maybe the person took care of johnny first and saved Lisa for last to yell at her and knock her around with out anyone getting in the way, just a thought IMO... Any IDEAS?
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(03-27-2011, 07:54 PM)onefortheroad Wrote: What if this was about respect as well as “snitching”? Sounds like Johnny had put AP or his crew in their places a few times (reporting the theft of his stuff, getting transferred to another prison, not bowing down about the car, plus other things we don't know about) and it can't have gone over well with AP. He could have been plotting to teach Johnny a lesson for some time.

When I read AP's exchanges with Maytee's friend on the Justice page, I noticed he mentioned respect a lot. It’s possible he sees himself as DC's natural successor to lead the crew and has already linked up with D's "widow", and might have thought he needed to show Johnny he'd been messing with or disrespecting the wrong guy. It would also be a warning to the rest of the crew to know their place.

The set up could have started when TW became 'friends' with Lisa; the Straubs going away would have presented an ideal opportunity to put a plan in action. By hanging out with Johnny & Lisa over the previous nights, TW would have been able to check out the house and the neighborhood, find out their plans and Lisa's work schedule, as well as who else they might be expecting to visit the house. I'm sure AP wasn't there, and TW wouldn't have been hanging out with them unless she had an ulterior motive. Both TW and AP have been accused of dealing, and the scales and vents point to drugs - maybe Johnny & Lisa thought they were buying and Tiff, AP & co were only there to steal their money. Based on his postings, AP is highly volatile and seems to change almost instantly from civility to rage; I think something happened while they were there that night that pushed his psycho button.

(03-30-2011, 11:40 PM)pplrcrazy Wrote: Im still in the dark about who MTY is but IMO I think AG and TW know who did this even if it wasnt their doing and IM sure alot of ppl agree.. They are ghetto hoodrats and they know how to lie, they were raised that like and taught to lie and not involve police and police are the enemies to them... I believe that if they didnt have anything to do with it then they know who did and they wont snitch because its out of fear because PEOPLE TALK

They may not snitch or talk out of fear but I would bet a million (if I had it) they WILL slip! Lets just hope so anywaySmiley_emoticons_smile
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(03-30-2011, 11:58 PM)AriGold Wrote: How many people have the goddamn penguin as their avatar?

hahaha!
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ToledoNative ist's great to see you!

I agree that Maytee is trying to psych the killers out.
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the discussion has been exhausted and without new information its energy is drained.
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Who are you to say what we can discuss?? If someone wants to re hatch something over and over again that's their right. This is MOCK so get the fuck over it. I'm sick of everybody bitching about other ppls post. As long as its within the guide lines and its about the case its allowed. If you want a forum with restraints then go find one or quit bitching.
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Well, dumbass, it will hurt. It wastes space on the forum. Hence LadyCop and Duchess asking us to trim our replies. We have all read the majority, if not all the prior pages. Quit being lazy about it and go read. Its not like you havent been told this ohhhh say...a thousand times already? Ugh.
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Some ppl are getting ridiculous with this shit. This is MOCK so get the fuck over it. I'm sick of everybody bitching about other ppls post. As long as its within the guide lines and its about the case its allowed. If you want a forum with restraints then go find one or quit bitching. If you dont want to answer it then dont. Twat
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(03-31-2011, 01:11 AM)SayWhat123 Wrote: Well, dumbass, it will hurt. It wastes space on the forum. Hence LadyCop and Duchess asking us to trim our replies. We have all read the majority, if not all the prior pages. Quit being lazy about it and go read. Its not like you havent been told this ohhhh say...a thousand times already? Ugh.

Some ppl are getting ridiculous with this shit. This is MOCK so get the fuck over it. I'm sick of everybody bitching about other ppls post. As long as its within the guide lines and its about the case its allowed. If you want a forum with restraints then go find one or quit bitching. If you dont want to answer it then dont. Twat
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Its mock and Ill bitch if I want to.
You are missed...RIP Lady Cop
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(03-31-2011, 01:14 AM)imsuchawildflower Wrote:
(03-31-2011, 01:11 AM)SayWhat123 Wrote: If you want a forum with restraints then go find one or quit bitching.

Its mock and Ill bitch if I want to.

Well you do that... but isnt your bitching taking up room on the forum????

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbvKeHFyiV4
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soo all of this bitching, anyone wanna talk about what i posted,loll.. this is insane..
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(03-31-2011, 01:24 AM)pplrcrazy Wrote: soo all of this bitching, anyone wanna talk about what i posted,loll.. this is insane..

In a nutshell, what was it?
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What if it was LS crazy ex.. what if he did johnny in first and thats why she had blood on her because he wanted to knock her around a bit and be crazy and wanted johnny out of his way to do so? Maybe thats why there was so much in this crime ( plastic bags).... what if thats why there was more of a fight with her because it was directed towards her for maybe leaving him or whatever else...
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so much hate in this crime*** sorry
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Essentially, we know NOTHING about the crime, the evidence or the perps. The cops have released no information, no arrests have been made, and everything is sheer speculation. Indeed, if the stories are true about a psycho ex boyfriend, he's as a good a suspect as anybody.

The real meat of this thread lies in the Facebook drama, which sheds no light on the crime.
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(03-31-2011, 01:04 AM)shitstorm Wrote: ToledoNative ist's great to see you!

I agree that Maytee is trying to psych the killers out.



It's great to see you, too!
I've been here, I was just hoping to bring some info to the table, but I'm still working on it...
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(03-30-2011, 03:43 AM)onefortheroad Wrote:
(03-29-2011, 06:56 PM)LVShortySpice Wrote:
(03-29-2011, 06:01 PM)onefortheroad Wrote: I find it interesting that Maytee doesn't appear to think he was directly involved himself, i.e. at the house that night, but that he sent his goons along with TW to do it for him. If she's right and they went there not just to frighten but also to kill, maybe it was planned differently, using a knife for example, and he sees this as cowardly by comparison.

If Maytee is right, kinda reminds me of how Charles Manson got his bitches to kill for him, and very sadistically I might add....creepy!

Oh, you're right! It would indeed be creepy if that was how it was done.

Maybe AG says its cowardly just to say it to make him look innocent.

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As long as people are posting the case will remain alive, and if that means revisiting theories or responding to the same questions, sobeit I say post away!
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If maytee reads this thread Iam sorry for judging ypu earlier which you probably didn't read and I am sorry on behalf of others just want to give you a moment of silence
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