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(08-25-2011, 12:26 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: i think the robbery was premeditated and it got out of control/escalated. murder wasn't the original intent.
but now it's felony murder, in the commission of a robbery, and eligible for death penalty. depending on Ohio statute. LC -- I totally agree. I think the intent was to burglarize the home (the alleged safe) for money owed by JC. Something went terribly wrong and they ended up dying.
Doesn't matter though ---too late ---they killed them.
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So, the robbery (or burglary, if you must) was to square a debt owed by Johnny?
Okay . . . now convince me that he wasn’t involved, in any way, shape or form, setting up this crime for his debt repayment.
I'm sure a defense attorney would present this possiblity or scenario, at trial.
Who knows? Maybe this is one of the dirty little secrets that PJs is afraid of getting out.
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Why were the bags brought to the Straub home and duct tape? Also a bag of plastic bags were left sitting along with the roll duct tape.
If you didn't want to harm anyone you would have robbed the place when no one was home. IMO the bags and duct tape was brought to torture them.
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Mockers are now refered to as bottom feeders. This is the slang definition.
a.An opportunist who profits from the misfortunes of others: "The frazzled, adrenaline-pumped tabloid newshounds [in the movie] are the bottom feeders of contemporary journalism" (Entertainment Weekly).
b.A low or despicable person.
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(08-25-2011, 04:05 PM)Older Than Dirt Wrote: Mockers are now refered to as bottom feeders. This is the slang definition.
a.An opportunist who profits from the misfortunes of others: "The frazzled, adrenaline-pumped tabloid newshounds [in the movie] are the bottom feeders of contemporary journalism" (Entertainment Weekly).
b.A low or despicable person.
Gee, that's one of the nicest things Maytee's said about Mockers. She's had the odessity to call us:
-Fat-asses
-Lard-asses
-Skanks
-Child Molesters
-Killers
-Hookers
-Snoop-nosed
-Satan's Helpers
"Bottom Feeders", eh, that's nothing. Maybe she's warming up to us. 
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Justice for Johnny & Lisa
I heard the bottomfeeders have not taken their delusional meds today and are currently on a rollercoaster in make believe looney land hahahaha i swear they all need a straight jacket and no laptop CRAZZYYYYYYYY
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Justice for Johnny & Lisa
Certain bottomfeeders cnt wait for a crumb to fall so they can fight to feed and devour WOWWW are you really that hungry and evil??? Hmmmm SMH im sure god is watching you all.......
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(08-25-2011, 04:19 PM)Older Than Dirt Wrote: Justice for Johnny & Lisa
Certain bottomfeeders cnt wait for a crumb to fall so they can fight to feed and devour WOWWW are you really that hungry and evil??? Hmmmm SMH im sure god is watching you all.......
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Hahahaha!
Sorry, genius . . . I ain't waiting for any crumbs to fall.
Just waiting for LE to clear Johnny of complicity in his death.
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pajama-wearing fat-ass voodoo hag is just pissed off that the video didn't show Johnny selling girl scout cookies, which is what they were REALLY doing.
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(08-25-2011, 03:54 PM)NightOwl Wrote: Why were the bags brought to the Straub home and duct tape? Also a bag of plastic bags were left sitting along with the roll duct tape.
Who said they brought it to the Straub home? Unless the cops says its so .... I don't believe it. I think that was strictly an assumption.
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(08-25-2011, 04:49 PM)Realistic Wrote: (08-25-2011, 03:54 PM)NightOwl Wrote: Why were the bags brought to the Straub home and duct tape? Also a bag of plastic bags were left sitting along with the roll duct tape.
Who said they brought it to the Straub home? Unless the cops says its so .... I don't believe it. I think that was strictly an assumption.
i said the same back at the beginning Realistic, they just used what was there. they may have brought the tape just to restrain them. but i still don't think murder was the purpose of the home invasion. i never did.
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(08-25-2011, 04:52 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: i still don't think murder was the purpose of the home invasion. i never did.
I totally agree with you LC.
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Kitty1 said awhile back she asked the Straub's if they had any bags like them in their home Kitty1 said they didn't & they didn't have that kind of duct tape. She asked about the duct tape first and she waited until later on to ask about the bags. Since Kitty1 is a relative of the family I believed her.
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(08-25-2011, 04:17 PM)Older Than Dirt Wrote: Justice for Johnny & Lisa
I heard the bottomfeeders have not taken their delusional meds today and are currently on a rollercoaster in make believe looney land hahahaha i swear they all need a straight jacket and no laptop CRAZZYYYYYYYY
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And this post is an example of denial.
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(08-25-2011, 05:52 PM)BlueTiki Wrote: Justice for Johnny & Lisa
CRAZZYYYYYYYY
43 minutes ago via mobile That's the ONLY word in her post that is truthful. She's CRAZY!!!
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So, LC, I was wondering if you think the perps were planning on JC/LS to be there? Hence maybe to use them to gain access to money/safe..Also do you think the perps were already in the house when JC/LS returned back from TGIF?? Last question do you think the perps brought tape and bags or found them in the house?
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(08-25-2011, 06:28 PM)Sonny223 Wrote: So, LC, I was wondering if you think the perps were planning on JC/LS to be there? Hence maybe to use them to gain access to money/safe..Also do you think the perps were already in the house when JC/LS returned back from TGIF?? Last question do you think the perps brought tape and bags or found them in the house?
sheesh Sonny, i wasn't there! 
i do think they brought the tape (see an earlier post).
i think they waited for them to get home to open the "safe" they thought was there.
i think they jumped them, came in through garage right after kids got there.
those are educated guesses Sonny, based on experience.
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(08-25-2011, 06:28 PM)Sonny223 Wrote: So, LC, I was wondering if you think the perps were planning on JC/LS to be there? Hence maybe to use them to gain access to money/safe.
So, Sonny . . .
. . . do you think that JC had nothing to do with this robbery?
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(08-25-2011, 06:42 PM)BlueTiki Wrote: (08-25-2011, 06:28 PM)Sonny223 Wrote: So, LC, I was wondering if you think the perps were planning on JC/LS to be there? Hence maybe to use them to gain access to money/safe.
So, Sonny . . .
. . . do you think that JC had nothing to do with this robbery?
someone told the thugs that Lisa's parents had a safe and would be away.
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