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I do HOPE whomever is involved do DIE!
NO MATTER anyone's past, NO ONE deserves to die!
If you were involved you NEED to die!
I took this to mean no matter what their past was (Johnny and Lisa) they did not deserve to die, and whoever did this to them, should die for it.
I LOVE God, but his fan club scares the shit out of me!!!
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Everything is happening so fast I just want to say thanks to so many mockers for the great information! Wupdawg post #1267 Court - Zerospheres post #1243 great info., on DNA.
Fabulous post #1184 thanks for information on Owens College your right on!!
(09-27-2011, 10:26 AM)fabulous Wrote: I'm n NO WAY blaming the victims at all...AT ALL....but I think this is gonna come down to thier lifestyle catching up with them... Tragic as it sounds.
Ditto.
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Re: Maytee's push for death penalty
DAs frequently consult with the family of a murder victim regarding doing a plea bargain versus going for the more severe charge. DAs have taken the death penalty off the table at the request of families of murder victims.
This case was so horrific that, IMO, there would be a public outcry if the DA didn't go for the death penalty - unless it was at the request of the victims' families.
If Johnny's family is screaming for the DP and the Straubs are against the DP and want LWOP, it will be interesting to see what happens.
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(09-27-2011, 03:47 PM)Snoopy Wrote: I took this to mean no matter what their past was (Johnny and Lisa) they did not deserve to die, and whoever did this to them, should die for it.
"All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others." - George Orwell
Yeah . . . I got the memo.
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Even if he does get the death penalty, it will be yeeeaarrss before he is put to death, there usually, i think, (correct me if wrong) is a long waiting list. And IMO there is just no possible way he IS NOT connected to the crime, whether driving the murderers or him being the murderer himself. Because Im sorry, but if I was wrongfully accused of a crime and my bond was set at 5 MILLION?? Id be freeeeakkking out in court, balling my eyes out. Not calm like him. He knows he was involved, and he's caught. Hes screwed. And I can almost GUARANTEE that if he "snitches" and tells who else is involved, there is nothing NO ONE can do or say to get him the death penalty.
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(09-27-2011, 03:50 PM)Kip Wrote: If Johnny's family is screaming for the DP . . .
Well, one thing for sure . . . we know who wears the PJ pants in the family.
Justice for Johnny & Lisa
Iam asking friends to write the prosecutor on to impose the death penalty on this evil demon SAMUEL T WILLIAMS he brutully murdered my son johnny s clarke and gf lisa a straub in the most sick evil heinous way.... Write to JULIA BATES LUCAS COUNTY COMMON PLEAS COURT 700 ADAMS ST TOLEDO OHIO 43604 ;,,((( thank you so much i love you my sweet friends thank you
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I guess we all have our own definitions of "the most sick evil heinous way....".
IF he's guilty, I wish her success in her quest for death.
Unfortunately, I remember similar trash talking about TW, from Maytee. After the Casey Anthony debacle, I'll wait to hear the evidence at trial.
I hope the kid gets a good lawyer. And a high profile one, too.
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poor Julia Bates. it hasn't even been transferred to that court yet. maytee nearly fucked up the investigation, now she's going to fuck up the trial. before it even begins. she simply cannot help being as stupid as a houseplant. OR maybe maytee has a reason to muddy the waters?
i know before arrest i said no more posting maytee facebook drivel. i don't like giving her free press. but if it's about this defendant and trial, ok. it could be relevant.
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(09-27-2011, 02:58 PM)kitty1 Wrote: (09-27-2011, 11:11 AM)JsMom Wrote: I do HOPE whomever is involved do DIE!
NO MATTER anyone's past, NO ONE deserves to die!
If you were involved you NEED to die! Let us take another look here. You say that no matter what one has done in their past, they don't deserve death, yet in the next sentence you state that anyone involved should die. So if their PAST includes smothering and terrorizing two young kids, it's still NO MATTER, because NO ONE deserves to die??? So are you for or against the death penalty? Me sooo confusious!
I'm not talking about someone KILLING someone in the past. Are you serious?
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Re: Muddying the waters
Maytee has tried over and again to say that Johnny was a perfect child
and never did wrong, even going so far as to say it was Lisa's fault that
Johnny died. She IS trying to hide something...and has been from day one
when she was on Nancy Grace and being interviewed by local media.
I dont think she so much as needs to hide her own past ( which she has
done her fair share of doing for sure!!), but she has gone above and
beyond to protect her son's past and memory.
I cant even imagine, at this point, what kinda shit is gonna hit the fan...
but Ill bet it gets the next hurricane name...and its gonna be heavy enough
to break some umbrellas.
Better take cover.
You are missed...RIP Lady Cop
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oh yeah! she wants him lynched NOW before a trial. ![[Image: 2a.gif]](http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa223/munky0621/2a.gif)
that way he can't talk.
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(09-27-2011, 06:46 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: poor Julia Bates. it hasn't even been transferred to that court yet. maytee nearly fucked up the investigation, now she's going to fuck up the trial. before it even begins. she simply cannot help being as stupid as a houseplant. OR maybe maytee has a reason to muddy the waters?
i know before arrest i said no more posting maytee facebook drivel. i don't like giving her free press. but if it's about this defendant and trial, ok. it could be relevant.
Hahahaha!
Tough-ass bitch done took her post down! No more post judging this defendant as GUILTY before having a trial and urging her (two) friends to write and demand the death penalty.
Gee . . . I wonder why?
Hahahaha!
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Glad she DOESN'T read here!
She put it back up 43 minutes ago.
Stupid as a houseplant? You're being kind, LC.
Her ego will jeopardize the justice she allegedly desires.
Stupid, phony tough in PJs who can't keep her illiterate mouth shut.
BTW - I'm still wanting to know what was Sammy's Mock username.
Or is he one of her child molester members?
I always confuse the devils and demons when she starts spewing hate.
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newsblogger22 said: Yesterday at 9:21 AM
i fiind it slightly heartbreaking that the Straub family is on vacation again. i understand they need to "get away", but how can they take another vacation knowing their child's accused murder is running free? and now that they have someone in custody, wouldnt they want to come back for the trials?
http://www.northwestohio.com/news/story....oJ-rdRMLD4
This is a disgusting and perverted comment made against this family who are grieving over the loss of their daughter. This is emotional abuse.
Who cares if they are on vacation,if that is even true. That's their business.
And whoever the genius is that made that comment,there are no trials,there hasn't even been a pre trial.He hasn't even entered a plea.
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(09-27-2011, 10:17 PM)undercovercameo Wrote: Who cares if they are on vacation,if that is even true. That's their business.
You know . . . if I was notified by LE that an arrest was imminent and didn't want to be inundated by the press, I'd probably make arrangements to be 'out of town', too.
I'm assuming that the Straubs would be contacted by LE versus the Clarkes.
The reason should be obvious to everyone . . . except Maytee.
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Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the Straubs left town in good part to avoid the predictable histrionics of Maytee. She is so over the top and attention-seeking that she usurps the focus from the victims and the pursuit of justice, to the point of hindering progress in the case, imo. I can't imagine how they must feel at the spectacle she has made of their daughter's murder.
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(09-27-2011, 10:43 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the Straubs left town in good part to avoid the predictable histrionics of Maytee. She is so over the top and attention-seeking that she usurps the focus from the victims and the pursuit of justice, to the point of hindering progress in the case, imo. I can't imagine how they must feel at the spectacle she has made of their daughter's murder.
Exactly!!
Also,how they have used their daughters photos,with the angel wings,the hearts,the poems,etc... is amazing to me. Lisa may have been her sons girlfriend but she is their daughter.
does she have a grief counselor or advocate that was with her during the arraignment? a dark haired lady in the news videos.
do you think someone in authority will speak to her ,the defense attorneys must be foaming at the mouth waiting to get this case or work with his present da.
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does she have a grief counselor or advocate that was with her during the arraignment? a dark haired lady in the news videos.
do you think someone in authority will speak to her ,the defense attorneys must be foaming at the mouth waiting to get this case or work with his present da.
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Im pretty sure it was written somewhere that the dark haired woman
was a family member...I may be wrong, but I seem to recall that it was
her sister maybe? or a cousin?
edited to add:: my bad. I was wrong...read post 1287 by NightOwl.
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Areti Tsavoussis is the Executive Director of the Toledo/Lucas County Victim Assistance Program, she was with Maytee at the Sylvania Court.
"A man is rich in proportion to the number of things he can afford to let alone."
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State Sen. Edna Brown (D., Toledo) said Tuesday she plans to introduce a bill this week that seeks to abolish the death penalty in Ohio.
How would this play out in this trial?
http://www.toledoblade.com/Politics/2011...nalty.html
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(09-27-2011, 11:16 PM)undercovercameo Wrote: Also,how they have used their daughters photos,with the angel wings,the hearts,the poems,etc... is amazing to me. Lisa may have been her sons girlfriend but she is their daughter.
does she have a grief counselor or advocate that was with her during the arraignment? a dark haired lady in the news videos.
I believe the photos are to thwart the critics and criticism when Maytee threw Lisa under the bus to divert attention away from her son's criminal past. She chose to point the finger at Lisa, on national TV, to avoid answering questions regarding Johnny's prison stint and past criminal behavior.
Maytee claimed she and the whole family are receiving grief counseling.
Go back and read some of her rants against Mock and the members. She removed them after comments were made on this site. Pussy.
Yup . . . I'm sure she follows, to the letter, what her grief counselor prescribes.
That includes the wearing of PJ bottoms and home schooling kids.
And tawdry grave decorating.
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