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Thanks everyone for the updates on Samuel Williams & the pictures!
I would like to know if Nicole Khoury is still his Lawyer?
John Thebes helped defend Gerald Robinson the Priest who murdered the Toledo Nun also the lead Prosecutor was Dean Mandross now Judge Dean Mandross.
Why would the Bond be dropped from 5 million to 4.7 million ?
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(10-05-2011, 03:34 PM)NightOwl Wrote: I would like to know if Nicole Khoury is still his Lawyer?
Why would the Bond be dropped from 5 million to 4.7 million ?
She is no longer his attorney. New public defenders have been appointed, Mr. Theebs and Ms. Roman.
The Judge had to set bond again and he set what he thought was appropriate on on each charge individually and they just add up a little less than what was set in the Sylvania Municipal Court.
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(10-04-2011, 11:44 PM)Cracker Wrote: Hey, MikeyA. We give folks in Ohio a hard time here for the fun of it, but we grew to love (okay, tolerate) some of them. hahaha
We are snarky here, for sure, but it is a cozy board full of people who have the same temperament. She doesn't need to read here. In fact, if it upsets her, she shouldn't. That she posts vitriol on her memorial facebook, then erases it like it didn't happen, is crazy enough.
Her treatment of the Straubs is unconscionable. I didn't keep up with this thread for the longest time, but when I saw her doing that, I had to say something. It is just wrong. She is victimizing them in a big way and we all hope the prosecutor's office puts a muzzle on her soon, at least in regards to Lisa and her family.
My heart goes out to them. I want people in Toledo to know what that creepy woman is doing to them. Or maybe it is best if they don't know...
What do you think?
I think you're right. They obviously want to grieve privately. If she wants to do hers publicly that's fine but because they don't want to associate with the Clarke family why does she feel justified to post what she has.
I would thank everyone in here for their attention to this. I was in Afg when the murder occured and now follow the developments from CA. This board is by far the most in tuned board on it's case so thanks to all.
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(10-05-2011, 03:44 PM)wupdawg Wrote: (10-05-2011, 03:34 PM)NightOwl Wrote: I would like to know if Nicole Khoury is still his Lawyer?
Why would the Bond be dropped from 5 million to 4.7 million ?
She is no longer his attorney. New public defenders have been appointed, Mr. Theebs and Ms. Roman.
The Judge had to set bond again and he set what he thought was appropriate on on each charge individually and they just add up a little less than what was set in the Sylvania Municipal Court. Thank-you!
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Mikey, thanks, and i am making you a member now. if you were serving our country in Afg. we all thank you for that! 
did you see maytee's filthy comments about Cracker's Marine son over there?
here:
http://mockforums.net/thread-6618.html
this IS the forum of record for this case. we have kept it alive. did you see part 1? hahahaha 16,404 posts! here:
http://mockforums.net/thread-4737.html
case facts here:
http://mockforums.net/thread-4892.html
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Really creepy!! Now seeing his picture en face so many times and now seeing his profile ,I'm so sickened that this face and the faces of those involved were what poor Johnny and Lisa saw at the end.
LC , since the DA has not announced that this is a death case,then why haven't they? Could they be waiting to see if he names names because surely his attorneys must have informed him of the possibly.
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frankly, there's simply no hurry to announce anything. we haven't even seen the evidence released in public. yes, i do believe there are behind-the-scenes dealing and discussions happening. as well as a wait for possible additional arrests.
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Quote from the transcript: "My son and his girlfriend live out at Longacre Lane." hahahahaha
(03-15-2013, 07:12 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: You see Duchess, I have set up a thread to discuss something and this troll is behaving just like Riotgear did.
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Toledo Blade
A Jan. 18 trial date was set in Lucas County Common Pleas Court yesterday for the man charged with the asphyxiation deaths of a couple in Springfield Township.
Samuel Todd Williams, 24, of 1626 Kelsey Ave. pleaded not guilty to two counts each of aggravated murder and kidnapping and one count of aggravated burglary. If convicted, he could face the death penalty.
Williams is charged in the Jan. 31 slayings of Johnny Clarke and Lisa Straub, who were found dead in the Longacre Lane home of Miss Straub's parents. The pair had been bound with duct tape, and plastic bags were taped around their necks.
Judge Dean Mandros ordered that Williams be held in custody in lieu of a $4.3 million bond. He issued a gag order in the case preventing attorneys from talking to the media.
Family members of Miss Straub and Clarke were present in the courtroom. They declined comment after the hearing.
http://toledoblade.com/Courts/2011/10/06...yings.html
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"It is a capital mistake to theorize before you have all the evidence. It biases the judgment."
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(10-05-2011, 03:56 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: Mikey, thanks, and i am making you a member now. if you were serving our country in Afg. we all thank you for that!
did you see maytee's filthy comments about Cracker's Marine son over there?
here:
http://mockforums.net/thread-6618.html
this IS the forum of record for this case. we have kept it alive. did you see part 1? hahahaha 16,404 posts! here:
http://mockforums.net/thread-4737.html
case facts here:
http://mockforums.net/thread-4892.html
glad to have you here.
Thank you LC. To answer your question, yes. I, like Cracker's son, am a US Marine. No I hadn't seen those comments but he did allude to them on Toledo Talk.
I don't know if she is more sick than dumb but either way it's not a good combination.
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Also just realized that Johnny grew up in the neighborhood I grew up in (I was on the other side of the South/Airport Criscross). It pisses me off that the South End has declined so much.
Maybe I moved out in time before I ended up like the rest of the hoodrats. Doubtful, my best friend since kindergarten grew up not far away, on Geneva, and he's got a PhD now.
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shit, i don't have documentation of it yet, but i'll look around. i hear maytee was gagged by court as i predicted. 
BWAAAAAAAAAAAA 
Family members of Miss Straub and Clarke were present in the courtroom. They declined comment after the hearing.
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Was any of SW's family in court with him?
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(10-06-2011, 07:47 AM)pspence Wrote: Was any of SW's family in court with him?
Hi ex, VM, wrote on FB yesterday that his mom and the other baby mama (her words, not mine) would be in court.
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Thanks Nina. This is all so unreal there is finally an arrest. He looks like such a normal guy...dying to know who else was involved and how they were linked to Johnny and Lisa...Lady Cop warned us it will be a longggg time before going to trial if ever (plea deal)...hope a lot in the mean time is leaked.
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Now that a gag order has been imposed on the Attorneys representing Samuel Williams by Judge Dean Mandros, are news media allowed to report on trial proceedings? Are they granted permission to take pictures? Why did he ever go over to the Straub's house and do what he is accused of doing? We are depending on the news media in Toledo, Ohio to report on the case!
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Owl:
Now that a gag order has been imposed on the Attorneys...
has that been in online news? link?
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(10-06-2011, 03:58 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: Owl:
Now that a gag order has been imposed on the Attorneys...
has that been in online news? link?
Dick Tracy posted the story and link on the previous page. Post 1678.
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see the scary witch thread: